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Sunday, September 12, 2021

Aaron Blake: There are a couple of perplexing things about the political opposition to the Biden administration's decision to force large employers to mandate coronavirus vaccines or weekly testing - and vaccine mandates more broadly.

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One is that our country has been mandating vaccines for a very long time, and the Pfizer vaccine now has the same status as those other vaccines: full authorization by the Food and Drug Administration. The Republicans who today say vaccines should be a matter of choice have done relatively little over the years to fight mandates of other such vaccines.

The second is that, for all the pushback on vaccine mandates, this isn't truly a vaccine mandate at all; it's a mandate to either get the vaccine or get tested weekly. You could even call it a testing mandate with a vaccination opt-out, if you wanted to. People who don't want the vaccine needn't get injected with anything or forfeit their job. To the extent this is "authoritarianism," it's the tyranny of a brief-if-relatively-frequent nasal swab.

Some have suggested their quarrel is not with vaccine mandates, per se, but with the federal government mandating them or compelling private businesses to mandate them. Others had said previously this was about the coronavirus vaccines only being authorized for emergency use.

But then the Pfizer vaccine was fully authorized, and we saw almost no shift in the GOP's anti-mandate stance. We've also seen a pretty steady GOP effort to prevent even the mandates forged by those private businesses on their own or by local and state governments. And the prevailing talking point here - that vaccines should be a choice and that even state government shouldn't mandate them " doesn't really apply across the board to other vaccines. (It also ignores the fact that mandates aren't just about government controlling lives; vaccines need widespread adoption to truly stomp out a virus like the coronavirus.)

[I]f you're going to oppose a mandate for a fully authorized vaccine, it would make more sense if you opposed them more broadly. If you're going to isolate the one that happens to protect against a virus that has killed more than 600,000 people since the start of 2020, that seems like a strange place to draw the line - unless you have a reason you're not enunciating for why this one is different.

And the drawing of that line is somewhat more curious now, given that, unlike mandates for those other vaccines, this one isn't strictly a vaccine mandate at all.

This cannot be emphasized enough: "... mandates aren't just about government controlling lives; vaccines need widespread adoption to truly stomp out a virus like the coronavirus."

The non-vaccinated continue to threaten the health and safety of the vaccinated (and those who can't get vaccinated but want to keep from being exposed to the virus through non-vax mitigation) and the GOP chooses to place politics over saving lives. This isn't a pro-life stance, it's a pro-virus/sickness/mass death stance.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-12 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Anti-vax, pro-terrorist, craven amnesiacs joined at the whatever to a Norma Desmond whiney wannabe? Pass.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-12 12:46 PM | Reply

I have learned of another victim of the non-vaccinated today.

My girl friend's grand daughter has come down with covid. She's 5 years old and got it in school. No vaccination approval yet for their age group.

Schools have always been a hot bed for any disease that is communicable. Then the kids bring it home to share with the parents, who go to work and share it with their co-workers.

This virus is non-political. It doesn't care what your politics are. It doesn't care what your beliefs are.

When someone dies of a heart condition because they can't find a bed in 40 different hospitals in the ICU, it tells you those who won't get vaccinated are clogging up the system totally, to the point of medical failure. Since they won't get a vaccination to help stop the deadly part of this disease, they are causing repercussions for everyone else by their lack of caring beyond the 'me' and 'freedumbs'.

This nation is falling apart with two sides that don't seem to be able to agree on anything to keep it going. Patriotism for the good of the nation has fallen to the wayside in favor of 'me' being most important. Trouble is each 'me' got assistance to be where they are by everyone else not being a 'I'm the only one that matters' attitude. Education, public services, are both things that the public as a group pay for, which is not a 'me' but all of us.

This rift is turning us into a third world country and quickly. Come December, when all these renters that haven't paid get tossed out, the one thing the government doesn't want to see is going to come to the forefront. Those who are unemployed, homeless, lack food security, and threatened with a virus gone crazy, will do the one thing it doesn't want to see. Protest, raise cain about the things that were not taken care of in the last bubble, and possibly threaten revolution, as businesses crater, the economy sinks to new lows, and stagflation takes hold and makes it the problem to add to all the other issues.

Pardon, I'm just teed off over the latest news I got... end of rant.

#3 | Posted by BBQ at 2021-09-12 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"This nation is falling apart with two sides that don't seem to be able to agree on anything to keep it going."

No, it is one side that is pretending that health issues should be determined by ideology instead of health. The GQP is out of their minds dividing the nation on issues like this so they can retain power for more tax cuts and other things to ruin the country. Mitch McConnell is proud that he can command so much influence to ruin people's lives. You are either for vaccinations or you are against the United States if it is in the hands of Democrats and not matter how many people die the stubborn fools will try to prevent a vacination mandate even if their own lives depend on it and they do.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2021-09-12 05:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Mississippi has some of the strictest vaccine mandates in the nation, which have not drawn opposition from most of its elected officials. Not only does it require children to be vaccinated against measles, mumps and seven other diseases to attend school, but it goes a step further than most states by barring parents from claiming "religious, philosophical or conscientious" exemptions.

Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas called the president's move "a power grab." Gov. Henry McMaster of South Carolina promised to fight Mr. Biden in court, to "the gates of hell." Gov. Greg Gianforte of Montana called it "unlawful and un-American." Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama called the move "outrageous" and "overreaching."

But each of these states " indeed every state in the country " already mandates certain vaccinations for children, and sometimes for adults, including health care workers and patients in certain facilities.

Mississippi, which has one of the lowest coronavirus vaccination rates in the nation, has consistently led the United States in childhood vaccinations " a point of pride for its health officials and many of its lawmakers. Alabama, similar to Mississippi, also refuses to acknowledge "philosophical, moral or ethical" exemptions to mandatory childhood vaccinations.

Experts in public health law agree that Mr. Biden is on solid legal footing, because his actions are grounded in federal workplace safety laws. They say Republican governors who insist that vaccine mandates are an intrusion on personal liberty need a refresher on their own state policies.

"That is pure hypocrisy," Lawrence O. Gostin, a public health law expert at Georgetown University, said of Mr. Reeves's remarks. "Even religious exemptions are swept away in the state of Mississippi, so how can he say that an order that a president makes to keep workers safe, with authorization by Congress, is an overreach or in any way unconstitutional?"

www.nytimes.com

Republican governors are hypocrites playing politics with their own citizens' lives? I'm shocked.

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-12 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

TONY

"Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas called the president's move "a power grab." Gov. Henry McMaster of South Carolina promised to fight Mr. Biden in court, to "the gates of hell." Gov. Greg Gianforte of Montana called it "unlawful and un-American." Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama called the move "outrageous" and "overreaching."

There's a whole bunch of irony just in that one paragraph alone.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-09-13 03:15 AM | Reply

"This nation is falling apart with two sides that don't seem to be able to agree on anything to keep it going."

Take your "both sides" and shove it. The GOP has always said they will compromise just so long as they get everything they want and nothing they don't.

One side has been consistently encouraging masks, social distancing and vaccinations. Another one has been advocating let it run like wildfire through our grammar schools while simultaneously doing everything it can to block wearing of masks, social distancing and vaccinations.

Both sides are not to blame for this.

One side is entirely responsible for this surge. The morons in Howdy Arabia have long been advocating for "natural herd immunity" not realizing that it is impossible and will cost millions of lives. The Tejas Lt Gov has long been an advocate of opening up even if a few million people have to die. The Gov Hot Wheels blocks school systems from requiring masks. --- them both.

Just wait until the cold weather comes, then you'll really see the caca hit the fan.

My office just re-opened in full in July, starting this week we are going back to 100% remote work. Congrats GQP, you built this.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-13 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

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