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Tuesday, September 14, 2021

Chris Cillizza: Almost 6 in 10 (59%) of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said that "believing that Donald Trump won the 2020 election" was very or somewhat important to what being a Republican meant to them.

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How is it possible to have a reasonable discussion with (let alone any respect for)someone believes such a ridiculous and transparent lie? How is it possible to respect most Republicans? It's a problem. Respect lies at the base of dialogue. If it is impossible to respect Republicans it is basically impossible to govern along side them.

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-09-14 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-14 04:58 PM | Reply

"And that is this: that, somehow, the 2020 election was fraudulent and Trump actually won."

But only the Presidential election. All the Republicans who won their down-ticket races, those elections were not fraudulent. These people are so willfully stupid, it makes literacy tests seem like a good idea.

And that of course is the point:
Their mission is to completely destroy America's faith in our Constitution and our Democracy.
They've already convicted something like 70,000,000 of us.

There should be real punishment for people who swear the Oath of Office, and then break it.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-14 05:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Republicans don't have to believe it. They just have to go along with it

It's the only conviction they honor, loyalty to their political party no matter what. You don't have to like it, you just must never mention it in a negative way

Just ask eberly

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-14 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The victim-complex must be so convenient. They didn't lose due to their candidate's weakness, not at all!

Keep in mind that these are the same people who are incessantly whining about preschool kids getting "participation trophies".

#5 | Posted by horstngraben at 2021-09-14 10:28 PM | Reply

Cult

#6 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-09-15 01:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The danger the Republicans pose to America is insidious. You won't see the disasters coming but they will come. It's like 9-11 Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice saying, "no one could have anticipated terrorists using airliners as missiles." The GQP positions people in positions of power to condone their agenda regardless of national security, economic security or pretty much anything else. They want what they want and everything else is secondary to their desires. Yes, as Johnny Hotsauce says, it is a cult. A cult of wealth and privelege and political power. They aren't even ashamed of it. They relish it. They glorify it by defending their rights to use money to own politicians like Joe Manchin from West Virginia. What a pitiful lap dog he really is, he will prevent the entire Democratic aganda because he is just a sold out piece of filth. He is a Democrat, I am aware, but he is actually owned by Republicans. Humiliating him would be something the Democratic Party should focus on, get rid of that piece of filth once and for all. He's a Republican no matter what he claims, it's how he votes.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2021-09-15 06:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-09-14 05:23 PM | FLAG:

Republicans are 4th dimension chess masters, but Democrats are 5th degree masters so clever that elections are rigged to only win the presidency and make things extremely difficult for razor thin majorities.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-15 07:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Believing the big lie is central to Democrats finding another way to try to spin and generalize so they can discriminate against a group of people who don't have the same opinions as them.

"He is a Democrat, I am aware, but he is actually owned by Republicans."

Just like Democrat's being racist by calling any black person who doesn't agree with their opinions an Uncle Tom or "sold out", Dems are incapable of understanding or accepting that they aren't the center of the universe. Even someone in their own party who has beliefs that aren't as extremist as what the party has generally become is demonized and ostracized by them.

All the country can hope for is one day Dems actually look at themselves for once and see how bad the party has gotten. Only then will we finally get back to being a good party who governs on facts and what is best for the people instead of opinions and what is best for the Liberal elite.

#9 | Posted by humtake at 2021-09-15 07:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

It is real simple, if th demorats have nothing to hide, why not allow access to the voting machines? Why not have the courts look at the constitutionality of the change in voting procedures? Why not allow signature verification of mail in ballots? After all if it was a fair election there would be nothing to hide.

The answer is simple, there was massive demorat voter fraud, why else would the demorats be covering up the results? I know ther are a bunch of lefties on this site, but you are stupid if you do not protect your right to fair and free elections first. Of course being left wing you do not have the smarts to see what is coming just look at China Joe.

#10 | Posted by gtjr at 2021-09-15 08:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

10 | POSTED BY GTJR AT 2021-09-15 08:14 AM | REPLY

Is this like a joke or something...attempt at sarcasm??
I don't get it.

#11 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-09-15 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#11 He's completely serious. He is a Trumper. He is proving the headline correct.

He also thinks he's smart.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 10:47 AM | Reply

Other big lies: No jesus, no god, R's are not good for the economy, fossil fuel jobs are good jobs, giving the rich tax breaks does not make jobs.... All short-sighted and self-serving.

GTJR maybe you should read up on how elections work. You have lots of questions and no answers. The absence of evidence is not evidence at all.

#13 | Posted by Brennnn at 2021-09-15 10:53 AM | Reply

GTJR in a nutshell: "elections are only open, free and fair if the end result benefits my side."

#14 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2021-09-15 11:00 AM | Reply

"It is real simple, if th demorats have nothing to hide, why not allow access to the voting machines?"

If it's so simple, why haven't the Republicans in the Arizona Senate and Cyber Ninjas released the results of the Maricopa County audit?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 11:10 AM | Reply

The current crop of Republicans seems determined to prove they are gullible at best, or more likely, willfully ignorant of the facts. History will not look kindly on their break from reality.

#16 | Posted by cbob at 2021-09-15 11:25 AM | Reply

Republicans are 4th dimension chess masters, but Democrats are 5th degree masters so clever that elections are rigged to only win the presidency and make things extremely difficult for razor thin majorities.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg

There are literally republicans who are so stupid they actually believe that- that dems would commit fraud to win the white house but lose the senate.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:30 AM | Reply

All the country can hope for is one day Dems actually look at themselves for once and see how bad the party has gotten.
#9 | Posted by humtake

Yeah that's why the dem rallies are filled with flags of traitors, nazis, and klansmen. That's the dem's right?

Let us know when dems elect a con man criminal fascist who kills a half million americans with lies. Then we can play your "whatabout the dems" game.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:32 AM | Reply

The answer is simple, there was massive demorat voter fraud, why else would the demorats be covering up the results? I know ther are a bunch of lefties on this site, but you are stupid if you do not protect your right to fair and free elections first. Of course being left wing you do not have the smarts to see what is coming just look at China Joe.

#10 | Posted by gtjr

Just because a liar tells you dems are covering up results doesn't mean its true.

The same liars that told you that climate change was a democrat hoax for decades are now saying the election was a democrat hoax. How many lies will you fall for before you start to feel stupid?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:33 AM | Reply

but you are stupid if you do not protect your right to fair and free elections first.

#10 | Posted by gtjr

"I just need you to find me 12000 more votes"

-a guy trying to stop free and fair elections

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:34 AM | Reply

The answer is simple, there was massive demorat voter fraud

#10 | Posted by gtjr

Donald Trump was never all that popular a dude. Never. The idea that he only lost because someone cheated has always been stupidly fantastical.

"Stupidly fantastical" is you.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2021-09-15 11:37 AM | Reply

The answer is simple, there was massive demorat voter fraud

#10 | Posted by gtjr

Yeah the only way america wouldn't re elect a guy who just got a half million citizens killed with lies and incompetence is fraud!

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:38 AM | Reply

#10 | POSTED BY GTJR AT 2021-09-15 08:14 AM | FLAG:

You idiots lost over SIXTY court challenges. Shut The ---- Up.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-15 11:46 AM | Reply

GTJR in a nutshell: "elections are only open, free and fair if the end result benefits my side."

#14 | POSTED BY PUMPKINHEAD AT 2021-09-15 11:00 AM |

I think it represents something of a Karenization of their body politic... It demonstrates the level of @$$-kicking the liberals have perpetrated upon the vanquished ones... again (haha).

Like shooting pigs in a barrel they ultimately lose all their battles. It's so hard to resist a good neener neener.

They think all of the US is weak because they are afraid. Trumptidunces will go the way of McCarthyism and Confederate Generals famous mostly because of their butthurt.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-09-15 11:46 AM | Reply

Be NICE to GTJR. He cannot help being a dishonest, ignorant, stupid, foolish, contemptible troll. He was born that way. Rather than respond to his garbage just killfile him if he actually annoys you. Personally, I find the trolling of desperate Trumpers to be reassuring in a perverse way. It reminds me that there is no way Trump has any chance of getting re-elected.

#25 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-09-15 12:52 PM | Reply

living in the deep red state
of WV, this is basically a true statement.

I have seen rethugs say something blatantly
false about the virus, or about a treatment,
and look to see if other rethugs agree...

it is basically a litmus test (now-a-days)
to prove just how rethuglican (looney) one is...

#26 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-09-15 01:09 PM | Reply

the rightwing is full of big lies,
from the election results, to Covid,
to referring to immigrants, and ethnicities...

how anyone can stand to be in a party
based largely on fabricated positions anymore,
is beyond me...

#27 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-09-15 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you must confront somebody who's convince the big lie is true remind them that Democrats are tied with Republicans in the Senate they don't have a supermajority and had massive voter fraud taking place Democrats would have made a point of having a supermajority.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-16 01:46 PM | Reply

Cult

#6 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

Death Cult.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-09-16 04:57 PM | Reply

All the country can hope for is one day Dems actually look at themselves for once and see how bad the party has gotten.
#9 | Posted by humtake

Them evil Dems! Always trying to shove that socialist healthcare and equal rights for women and all that easy access to voting down our throats!

Well Hummer won't stand for it!

But it's better than being known as the Insurrection Party.

On Jan 6th whole world got to see how bad the Party of Trump has become.

So you can GFY insurrectionist. You wouldn't know what a "good party" was if you saw one.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-09-16 05:07 PM | Reply

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