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Tuesday, September 14, 2021

As of September 9, nearly 5.3 million children have tested positive for COVID-19 since the onset of the pandemic. Over 243,000 cases were added the past week, the second highest number of child cases in a week since the pandemic began. After declining in early summer, child cases have increased exponentially, with nearly 500,000 cases in the past 2 weeks.

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At this time, it appears that severe illness due to COVID-19 is uncommon among children. However, there is an urgent need to collect more data on longer-term impacts of the pandemic on children, including ways the virus may harm the long-term physical health of infected children, as well as its emotional and mental health effects.
Well all you parents living under anti-mask mandate orders, simply consider your school children active participants in an involuntary study of the effects of Covid on children. Especially when children under 12 cannot take the vaccine to mitigate their own risk of catching the virus.

Hopefully they won't bring their infections home to harm others in the family nor end up with long-term health consequences from their own unnecessary exposure. Due to the malgovernance of elected leaders who refuse to put the public's health over the reckless desires of individuals bent on threatening it, the abdication of everyone's social responsibility not to spread diseases that sicken and kill large numbers of citizens is now the new norm.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-14 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Data from Israel indicates 10% of kids that got Covid get long haul Covid.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2021-09-14 03:36 PM | Reply

Womp womp.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-14 05:26 PM | Reply

But they have ivermectin on spigot in Israel!

Impossible

- - septic

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-14 05:54 PM | Reply

Where's madbomber to tell us a kids aren't under threat? ...I mean kids dont get really sick? ... I mean a few dead kids isn't worth wearing a mask over?

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-14 07:56 PM | Reply

Frankenfaucie spent good money on this.

I hope he dies in a fire.

#6 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2021-09-14 08:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Incandescent!" - Milfbummer

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-14 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Over 243,000 cases were added the past week, the second highest number of child cases in a week since the pandemic began. After declining in early summer, child cases have increased exponentially, with nearly 500,000 cases in the past 2 weeks."

First, thanks Joe Biden. I would bet 90%+ of these cases are the Delta or after variants so 100% under the power of Joe Biden to stop by closing the borders/travel. He chose not to do so for some reason. It will be up to history to judge him for that decision.

#8 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-14 10:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Get that troll on, Sceptical!

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-14 10:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"#9 | POSTED BY YAV"

So Biden does not bear the responsibility for the all the 100% preventable deaths that we allowed to occur from Delta+ variants? Seems hypocritical to exempt him when you held Trump to a different standard.

#10 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-14 10:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I would bet 90%+ of these cases are the Delta or after variants so 100% under the power of Joe Biden to stop by closing the borders/travel.

The delta variant of the TrumpVirus is Biden's fault?

What ever you say, Trumper!

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-14 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So Biden does not bear the responsibility for the all the 100% preventable deaths that we allowed to occur from Delta+ variants? Seems hypocritical to exempt him when you held Trump to a different standard.

#10 | Posted by Skeptical

Biden is telling people to get vaccinated. Trump got vaccinated in secret. And spread doubt in the CDC and FDA.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-14 11:10 PM | Reply

"Biden is telling people to get vaccinated. Trump got vaccinated in secret. And spread doubt in the CDC and FDA.
#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Trump crows about developing the vaccine. He took it even though he already had and beat covid. What are you talking about taking it in secret? That is the dumbest liberal talking point yet on this subject.

What has Joe Biden done? He continued to distribute Trump's vaccine and allows open borders and international travel ensuring the variants will spread into the US. We now have Delta, Lambda, and Mu, all 100% preventable by closing travel. Thus, 100% of these deaths are on the hands of Joe Biden.

Also, Biden's vaccine statements might have more sway if his VP had not been telling people to not to take them along with MSNBC hosts saying the same. So, no surprise that black people are the least vaccinated group in the US despite being the most reliable Democrat voting block.

So again, all these deaths are 100% on Joe Biden and his incompetent response to covid. At this point, his failure with covid might be a high point with the debacle in Afghanistan, NK shooting off more missiles, Iran edging closer to a nuclear weapon, run away inflation in the US, the just announced 40% cut in 4Q GDP estimates by the Atlanta fed, and spiking crime and homelessness in our major cities rivaling 3rd world nations.

#13 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-14 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#11 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK "

Delta variant is from India and did not come to the US until after Biden was sworn in. He could have stopped travel but apparently was willing to trade a few hundred thousand American citizen lives in exchange for a few million illegals. Just remember where you rate in his eyes.

#14 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-14 11:21 PM | Reply

It's time for the Skeptical persona to be turned off permanently. Openly spreading lies and misinformation about Covid should not be tolerated while people continue to become sick and die due to believing the type of lunacy he spews.

Russia couldn't do it any better.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-14 11:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#15 | POSTED BY TONYROMA "

What lies did I spread about covid? What misinformation?

You don't like the fact that I want people to get vaccinated AND look into ivermectin because in your polarized world you think it is simply a choice of "vax" or "no vax". That is a very stupid, false choice that only exists in your mind because you choose to politicize medicine.

#16 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-14 11:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

SKEPTICAL

Joined 2021/09/10
Visited 2021/09/12

And every single post has been chock full of Covid misinformation and erroneous accusations interspersed with Ivermectin advocacy built on incomplete/skewed analysis and bald faced lies.

There is no effort to inform, simply attempts to sow dissent and blame, at which he's quite good.

My guess is another banned poster returning yet again in violation of RCade's policy.

Hammer Time!

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-14 11:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

What lies did I spread about covid? What misinformation?

As the data from Israel shows, the vaccines has decreasing efficacy which means we will fall back to therapeutics regardless

That's not what the data shows, moron.

Primary risk factor is being older than 60. Guess who was vaccinated first?

People older than 60. So is it really time or loss of efficacy in a population with known issues of poor responses to vaccines?

the only question is when they actually get the funding and support they should already be receiving.

They do, idiot. That's why I've been mocking you every time you say this as if you have the slightest clue.
One of the first things many groups did when COVID started was to test small molecule libraries in vitro for antiviral activities. Other groups screened large groups of approved meds to see if they can be repurposed against COVID.
Historically, antivirals have been extremely difficult to develop and few have been successfully utilized.

Politically/financially - there is a big incentive to ------ ivermectin because it threatens the EUA for the vaccines.
My assumption is that you are too blinded to understand this rather than you wanting people to die. Maybe I am wrong.

#93 | Posted by Skeptical

Except the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved.
And its use wouldn't do a damn thing towards threatening the use of preventatives over narrow windowed, ineffective treatments.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-09-14 11:22 PM | REPLY

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-14 11:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Meanwhile, the NHS in the UK has just kicked off a large scale trial on the use of ivermectin.

Initiation of a trial isn't a sign to start using a drug for treatment. It's to find out if you should use a drug for treatment. You're getting ahead of yourself more than a little bit.

As the evidence for ivermectin efficacy grows and that of the vaccines continues to diminish (Pfizer under 50% per the new Mayo study vs. Delta),

Pfizer efficacy dropped to 84% overall. The demographic showing the greatest risk is....those over 60. A demographic notorious for poor vaccine response.

Stop spreading misinformation.

I think you, and the 'vaccine only crowd' will look back in a year and realize all those people you let die because your politics forced you to slow down the use of ivermectin.

Not even a little. Why? Because it's not politics preventing the widespread use of ivermectin among sane people.
And those people dying will increasingly be fully vaccinated (as shown in Israel) which is why therapeutic development should always have been the focus of our research efforts.

#23 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

Gee, you should call up Fauci and other virologists to tell them they need to develop therapeutics. They probably haven't thought of that and sunk years of R&D into doing just that.
Make sure you call Gilead too. They might want to try Remdesivir.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-09-14

#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-14 11:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Delta variant is from India and did not come to the US until after Biden was sworn in.

Delta was first reported in March.

Which means it was here before then.

Which doesn't matter to Trumpers who are anti vaccines, quarantines, social distancing, and masks.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-14 11:50 PM | Reply

Biden is handling Covid beautifully.

He has a high percentage of Dems vaccinated, and a low percentage of GQPERS.

He has used his super powers to convince GQPERS to off themselves.

Genius!

#21 | Posted by bored at 2021-09-15 12:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"As the data from Israel shows, the vaccines has decreasing efficacy which means we will fall back to therapeutics regardless
That's not what the data shows, moron."

That is EXACTLY what the data shows. Pfizer efficacy drops to 42% for stopping transmission. What are you talking about? That is why Israel is already pushing the booster.

"Primary risk factor is being older than 60. Guess who was vaccinated first?"

Non-sequitur response. It changes nothing about my argument that we will need therapeutics. But, you did just falsify your initial claim.

"the only question is when they actually get the funding and support they should already be receiving.
They do, idiot."

They don't idiot. Just like Fauci was all in on HIV vaccines, he is back at again now. That is why you are opposed to doing any trials with ivermectin or anything else off patent - it is all political for you because in your mind is is 'vaccine' or 'bust'.

"Except the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved.
And its use wouldn't do a damn thing towards threatening the use of preventatives
#18 | POSTED BY TONYROMA A"

Yeah it would because vaccines are a big money maker and more people would opt out if there were effective therapeutics.

#22 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 12:29 AM | Reply

- if there were effective therapeutics.

You wouldn't have to break out of that white straightjacket every time you wanted to type something stupid here.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-15 12:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Delta was first reported in March.
Which means it was here before then."

What kind of logic is this? The cut off point for the argument is Jan 20th. Unless you want to argue that it was here before Jan 20th, you might as well not make this point at all. Further, we can follow up with Lambda and Mu. These are 100% on Biden.

"Which doesn't matter to Trumpers who are anti vaccines, quarantines, social distancing, and masks.
20 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Trump directly led to the fast development of the vaccines. He and his family took it and he has never, to my knowledge, ever told people not to take the vaccine. I, myself am vaccinated.

Again, you get this ridiculous binary like Tony above and it makes you seem childish.

#24 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 12:33 AM | Reply

"You wouldn't have to break out
#23 | POSTED BY CORKY"

I would bet you would still be bunkered down in your basement wearing 2 masks in case in case mom walks through to do a load of laundry even if therapeutics were available. Your ilk loves lockdowns because it makes the normal people live like the miserable, unemployed shut-in you are.

#25 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 12:40 AM | Reply

#24 Trump had nothing to do with the development of the first and best vaccine.

Germany funded it.

Merkle kicked Trump's ass.

#26 | Posted by bored at 2021-09-15 12:48 AM | Reply

The cut off point for the argument is Jan 20th.

Covid was first being reported in February. Turns out it may have been here in December.

Delta was reported in March. It was probably here a couple months beforehand. Like January. Was it before the 20th?

You know what else happened in January? A bunch of losers fueled by rage stormed the Capitol building in hopes of delaying Biden's certification so Trump could take it to the courts and bury it

Trumpers creating chaos takes a lot of people's attention away from the pandemic.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-15 01:14 AM | Reply

Trump directly led to the fast development of the vaccines.

A vaccine which Trump supporters refuse to take.

He and his family took it

Why would they need to take a vaccine (in private). When, for months, Trump was on television screaming about the dangers of COVID being a big hoax?

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-15 01:23 AM | Reply

"#24 Trump had nothing to do with the development of the first and best vaccine.
Germany funded it.
#26 | POSTED BY BORED "

I would encourage you to not blindly repeat debunked liberal talking points to avoid coming off as a moron.

www.nytimes.com

"Very much so. The United States government provided $1 billion in support for the design and testing of the Moderna vaccine. Researchers at the National Institutes of Health oversaw much of the research, including the clinical trials. Moderna also received an additional $1.5 billion in exchange for 100 million doses if the vaccine proved to be safe"

So, fill your empty head with some knowledge before speaking next time.

#29 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 01:27 AM | Reply

"You know what else happened in January?
#27 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

Again, non-sequitur unless you are arguing Biden would have closed the border had it not been for the riots. Is that you argument?

Anyway, due to Biden's continued incompetence, we now have Mu Two and all the other Pokemon named variants to look forward to during his reign of ignorance.

#30 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 01:30 AM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

He was referring to Pfizer.

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-09-15 01:33 AM | Reply

"He was referring to Pfizer.
#31 | POSTED BY REDIAL "

He said 'best' - in no way does that relate to Pfizer.

#32 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 01:38 AM | Reply

He also said first.

#33 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-09-15 01:39 AM | Reply

"He also said first.
#33 | POSTED BY REDIAL "

Per the Israel studies, the efficacy of Pfizer is about the same as praying. So, I will go with prayer as being first and best being Moderna.

#34 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 01:48 AM | Reply

The------------------- be always known for botching the distribution of the vaccines.

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-09-15 02:04 AM | Reply

"The------------------- be always known for botching the distribution of the vaccines.
#35 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT "

What was botched? Due to Warp Speed, the vaccines were purchased and Biden just had to follow Trump's plan - which he did. It is just that his own VP and MSNBC hosts scared the black community into not getting the vax that is the problem now.

#36 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 02:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

There was no plan.

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-15 03:29 AM | Reply

"I purposefully downplayed the virus." -- COVI-Donald

Own it, SKEPT.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-15 03:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There was no plan.
#37 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

Again, another total and complete lie. Maybe you have memory problems like Biden, who was vaccinated under Trump but claims there was no vaccine when he took over.

""I purposefully downplayed the virus." -- COVI-Donald
#38 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

Early on, yes, to avoid mass panic. He was right to do so as we have a real problem in this country where half the population is so afraid of a virus with a 99.9% survivability rate for people under 60 in decent health that they would close down the economy and hide in their basements for 1.5 years. With 20/20 hindsight, the country that adopted the right policy was Sweden. Covid has ended there and a majority of the country now has natural immunity amplified by vaccination.

#39 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 03:58 AM | Reply

non-sequitur unless you are arguing

I'm arguing there's a lot going on in the real world.

You seem to be under some impression covid and the delta variant are Biden's responsibility, with zero proof to show for it other than your assumptions and completely ignoring reality.

TrumpVirus spread like wildfire throughout America thanks 100% due to the efforts of Trump and Republicans.

To this day Trumpers refuse to wear masks and socially distance.

This is 100% thanks to goading by Trump to ignore warnings by Democrats and the scientific community.

TrumpVirus is here in America due to Trump and Trumpers.

You can blame immigrants all your xenophobic heart desires.

But the buck stops at Trump and irresponsible Americans.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-15 06:05 AM | Reply

-Hospitalizations (24 states and NYC reported)*

--Among states reporting, children ranged from 1.6%-4.0% of their total cumulated hospitalizations, and 0.1%-1.9% of all their child COVID-19 cases resulted in hospitalization

-Mortality (45 states, NYC, PR and GU reported)*

--Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 7 states reported zero child deaths. In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03 of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

#41 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 06:07 AM | Reply

another total and complete lie.

Such a total and complete lie should be easy to disprove.

Citation necessary.

half the population is so afraid of a virus with a 99.9% survivability rate

Half a million Americans dead and you're giddy.

Trump on Trumper.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-15 06:09 AM | Reply

"Where's madbomber to tell us a kids aren't under threat? ...I mean kids dont get really sick? ... I mean a few dead kids isn't worth wearing a mask over?"

That seems to be what the rest of the world is running with.

The UK has so rejected the call to vaccinate children under 12, as it is rare for them to experience significant symptoms as a result of infection. They also would appear to suffer more from heart inflammation as a result of vaccination.

Maybe you need to lecture those UK doctors on what's what.

#43 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 06:12 AM | Reply

"I mean a few dead kids isn't worth wearing a mask over"

I am absolutely 100% in favor of masks...provided they protect the individual.

This whole wearing a mask to protect others is silly authoritarian left-wing nonsense.

Egalitarian-based stupidity.

#44 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 06:14 AM | Reply

""Where's madbomber to tell us a kids aren't under threat? ...I mean kids dont get really sick? ... I mean a few dead kids isn't worth wearing a mask over?""

Texas kills more babies a year through abortion than have died in 1.5 years of COVID. Yet, you now want to whine about kids going back to school and being exposed to something with a 99.99%+ survivability rate for healthy kids under 12.

#45 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 06:17 AM | Reply

My guess is another banned poster returning yet again in violation of RCade's policy.

This paste-eater sounds like Incel Scatberg.

#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-09-15 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It doesn't effect the young.

- Bloated-------------.

#47 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-15 06:53 AM | Reply

half the population is so afraid of a virus with a 99.9% survivability rate

That would mean only 300,000 people will die from the virus.

Someone tell the other 270,000 they're faking it.

#48 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-09-15 06:56 AM | Reply

#48

The actual survival rate is 98.3%...of those who were confirmed to have been infected. We don't know how many were infected with asymptomatic symptoms. Last summer the number ranged from 6-24 unrecognized cases for every one that was recognized.

#49 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 07:13 AM | Reply

"#48 | POSTED BY NIXON"

If your problem with math or reading comprehension?

I said "half the population is so afraid of a virus with a 99.9% survivability rate for people under 60 in decent health"

So, US population under 60 is ~250M or so (not counting illegals) and covid deaths for people under 60 is under 65,000. So, our survival rate for people under 60 is about 99.97% thus far through the pandemic for all people under 60. Now, I would argue that the people that died were probably not in good health to begin with so the the survival rate of those is probably at the 99.99% level. So, strange that you ran for your bunker for 18 months - probably because you are not very good at math as you demonstrated above.

#50 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 07:23 AM | Reply

"The actual survival rate is 98.3%...of those who were confirmed to have been infected.
#49 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER"

Now do it for under 60 without underlying medical conditions. That is why Joe Rogan could beat covid in under 3 days even though he was symptomatic. Yet, most posters on here cherish the idea of another year of bunker life.

#51 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 07:48 AM | Reply

"Data from Israel indicates 10% of kids that got Covid get long haul Covid."

That is a lie. Read the study, that's not what it said at all.

#52 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-15 08:49 AM | Reply

--Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 7 states reported zero child deaths. In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03 of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

#41 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

So it's just not killing enough children for us to worry about it (what's the right number?). Let's see what the numbers look like after winter break, or spring break with stupid people preventing students from masking and vaccination.

#53 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2021-09-15 09:43 AM | Reply

#51 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

Burn in Hell you God-damned Russian whore.

#54 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-15 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I am absolutely 100% in favor of masks...provided they protect the individual.
This whole wearing a mask to protect others is silly authoritarian left-wing nonsense."

^
I was against drunk driving when it was to protect the person driving drunk.
But stopping drunk driving to protect others on the road is silly authoritarian left-wing nonsense.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump crows about developing the vaccine. He took it even though he already had and beat covid. What are you talking about taking it in secret? That is the dumbest liberal talking point yet on this subject.

#13 | Posted by Skeptical

You live in such a propaganda bubble that real news doesn't get through.

Trump got vaccinated in secret because he knows his cult of morons doesn't like vaccines:
www.yahoo.com
www.msn.com
www.mediaite.com

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:45 AM | Reply

Yet, most posters on here cherish the idea of another year of bunker life.

#51 | Posted by Skeptical

You morons are the reason we can't go back to normal. Why are you ------- so afraid of a shot?

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, our survival rate for people under 60 is about 99.97% thus far through the pandemic for all people under 60.

#50 | Posted by Skeptical

Hmm why cut off at 60? Need help fudging your numbers? People over 60 aren't people? They can be sacrificed at the alter of anti vaxxer propaganda?

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 11:48 AM | Reply

Among states reporting, children were 0.00%-0.27% of all COVID-19 deaths, and 7 states reported zero child deaths. In states reporting, 0.00%-0.03 of all child COVID-19 cases resulted in death

#41 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

So nothing to be worried about? Just let it wash over the kids?

"more than half of children aged between 6 and 16 years old who contract the virus have at least one symptom lasting more than 120 days, with 42.6 per cent impaired by these symptoms during daily activities."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Data released by the UK Office of National Statistics (ONS) in February and updated in April also sparked concern. They showed that 9.8% of children aged 2"11 years and 13% aged 12"16 years reported at least one lingering symptom five weeks after a positive diagnosis. Another report released in April found that one-quarter of children who were surveyed after discharge from hospital in Russia post-COVID-19, had symptoms more than five months later2.
www.nature.com

At an April congressional hearing, Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, cited one study suggesting that between 11 percent and 15 percent of infected youths might "end up with this long-term consequence, which can be pretty devastating in terms of things like school performance."
www.nytimes.com

#59 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-09-15 01:48 PM | Reply

#59 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

Who cares? Better to have our children crippled with disease than to let democrats solve a pandemic.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 01:54 PM | Reply

"Now do it for under 60 without underlying medical conditions. That is why Joe Rogan could beat covid in under 3 days even though he was symptomatic. Yet, most posters on here cherish the idea of another year of bunker life."

Maybe this will scratch that itch a little bit. I don't like the data layout, I don't think it's nearly as clear or precise as it could be. But it is official and it is current.

ttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-
by-age.html

#61 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:44 PM | Reply

I don't think that most of the posters here cherish the idea of another year of bunker life. Some do. For some, this is the first time in their lives they've had to face fear. The first time they've had to do risk calculus...and they're terrified because someone isn't doing it for them by enforcing bunker life.

Many more are no more scared than you or I. But what they like is the thought of the government being able to flex it's authoritarian muscle in the interest of "public safety."

Most dissidents in the the former Soviet Socialist Republic were detained for their own good in mental health facilities. In fact the Olympic defector just a few months ago stated that, if she were returned to Belarus, she'd likely be confined to a mental health facility.

#62 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:51 PM | Reply

"So it's just not killing enough children for us to worry about it (what's the right number?). Let's see what the numbers look like after winter break, or spring break with stupid people preventing students from masking and vaccination."

Since Jan 01, 2020, 439 humans under age 18 have died of COVID. 56,092 died of something else.

More kids died in car accidents during that timeframe.

Should we ban cars?

#63 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:54 PM | Reply

Should we ban cars?

#63 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER A

If there were an inoculation against car accidents then of course we would require children to get them. Adults, too.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2021-09-15 02:55 PM | Reply

"You morons are the reason we can't go back to normal. Why are you ------- so afraid of a shot?"

Why are you ------- so afraid of the world after the shot.

You were a ----- pre-vax, and you're a ----- post vax.

I was never a -----. Not before...certainly not after.

#65 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:56 PM | Reply

"If there were an inoculation against car accidents then of course we would require children to get them. Adults, too."

Alas...the only inoculation to that malady is the banning of vehicles.

Let's do it...for the chirren!

#66 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:57 PM | Reply

"So nothing to be worried about? Just let it wash over the kids?"

Yup.

That's what the UK is doing.

At present, they're more worried about the effects of the vaccine on those under 12 than the effects of COVID.

Maybe you can join your friends in telling the UK what's what when it comes to kids and COVID.

#67 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:58 PM | Reply

"Hmm why cut off at 60? Need help fudging your numbers? People over 60 aren't people? They can be sacrificed at the alter of anti vaxxer propaganda?"

Nope.

You just create a strategy that's focused on protecting those most at risk...while allowing everyone else to live their lives.

Seems fair to me.

#68 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 02:59 PM | Reply

#66 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

You know neither apples and oranges.

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2021-09-15 03:00 PM | Reply

"You just create a strategy that's focused on protecting those most at risk...while allowing everyone else to live their lives."

We did that, it's called lockdowns.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 03:04 PM | Reply

"We did that, it's called lockdowns."

Why would you lock down people who aren't at risk?

And why wouldn't you let those who are at risk determine if the isolation is worth the safety it provides?

#71 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 03:22 PM | Reply

"Why would you lock down people who aren't at risk?"

To minimize the risk to people who are at risk.

"And why wouldn't you let those who are at risk determine if the isolation is worth the safety it provides?"

Why have leaders if people just decide everything for themselves?

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 03:24 PM | Reply

"You know neither apples and oranges."

You're welcome for the education champ.

I hope you bunker is cool enough the the apples and oranges stay fresh for a really long time.

I read an article...probably about this time last year. It predicted that the pandemic would not be over for 4.7 years.

They didn't have the info we have now.

Unless your balls happen to drop...unlikely, I suspect...you might be spending the rest of your life in a bunker. Although it is mostly up to you.

#73 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 03:25 PM | Reply

"It predicted that the pandemic would not be over for 4.7 years."

Sounds reasonable. Vaccines won't be available for the bulk of the developing world until 2023.

"They didn't have the info we have now."

What information, that 20% of Americans will refuse a vaccine, prolonging the pandemic?

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 03:27 PM | Reply

If only they would submit, the pandemic would be over...

The reactionary bourgeoise have never understood their place.

#75 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 03:32 PM | Reply

It's always entertaining to get lectured on life calculation by someone who has someone else tell him when to get up, clean himself, eat, work, recreate and go to bed, every day.

This guys entire life is to be told what to do and when, by a superior. They make his decisions

That's some funny ----

#76 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 03:45 PM | Reply

Submit

Your proclaimed career is nothing more than submitting to someone elses authority everyday

Damn dopey. STFU

#77 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 03:47 PM | Reply

If only they would submit, the pandemic would be over...
The reactionary bourgeoise have never understood their place.
#75 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

^
Fairly accurate description of Trumpers.
They truly believe their refusal to listen to the experts is defining characteristic of freedom.
Just like Trump never sought out investment advice and as a consequence is worth a fraction of what he ought to be.

Better to make your own bad choice than follow a liberal's good advice.

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 04:04 PM | Reply

"That's some funny ----"

The fact that you're amused explains why you are poor.

And in need of someone to tell you what to do.

#79 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 04:11 PM | Reply

"They truly believe their refusal to listen to the experts is defining characteristic of freedom."

Spare me.

Progressives stopped listening to economists long ago.

The professionals just weren't providing the message they wanted to hear.

In that way, you and JPW really aren't that different than Trumpers.

In fact I don't think that most progressives disagree with Trump's methods, they just disagree with his agenda.

His methods would be fine if carried out by a progressive politician.

#80 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-15 04:13 PM | Reply

"Progressives stopped listening to economists long ago."

Since 1975?

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 04:15 PM | Reply

"In that way, you and JPW really aren't that different than Trumpers."

Are you different than Trumpers?

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 04:26 PM | Reply

Poor?

How so?

#83 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 04:46 PM | Reply

That feeling when someone tells you in the top 1%, and then they tell you you're poor.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 04:53 PM | Reply

"Not THAT many children died!" - Madbomber

"Mom/Sis, where's the hemorrhoidal cream!" - Skeptical after talking out of his ass all thread

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-15 05:00 PM | Reply

So what was trumps agenda?

The only thing I can recall was him being fixated on Obama and Obama's legacy

Was there actually an agenda? He seemed more into slinging slogans and platitudes on Twitter

Regarding his method, that obviously did not sit well with honest people, woman in particular, fathers of daughters, people who honer and foster character in themselves and others, and people in general who rightly recognize a Jersey shore, real estate conman.

Go ask someone with a kid if they would want their son to grow up to be Trump or their daughter to marry trump

The idea is horrifying to normal people.

#86 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 05:06 PM | Reply

Since Jan 01, 2020, 439 humans under age 18 have died of COVID. 56,092 died of something else.

More kids died in car accidents during that timeframe.

Should we ban cars?

#63 | Posted by madbomber

Are car crashes contagious idiot?

Making an analogy this stupid implies your too mentally deficient to even waste time on.

To fix your analogy - if there was a shot we could all take that would eliminate car crashes, shouldnt the government mandate it?

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 06:03 PM | Reply

Progressives stopped listening to economists long ago.

#80 | Posted by madbomber

From the "tax cuts pay for themselves" party loyalist.

The economy consistently does better under democrat administrations. Then america forgets what idiots you are, elects you again, you create a disaster, and americans elect democrats to come in and clean your mess up. Over and over. Sorry the facts dont fit your brainwashing.

#88 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 06:05 PM | Reply

Why would you lock down people who aren't at risk?

#71 | Posted by madbomber

Sign up for a 5th grade science class. There you'll learn how diseases spread.

#89 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 06:07 PM | Reply

"I don't think that most of the posters here cherish the idea of another year of bunker life. Some do. For some, this is the first time in their lives they've had to face fear.
#62 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER"

I disagree that they don't cherish it. Much like when democrat policies fail - like with public school systems in large cities or poverty programs - they will not admit failure but instead claim that we didn't do the programs on a large enough scale. If only we would have thrown more money at the problem, people in Detroit would have math and English literacy about 50%....If only we had locked down harder and longer.

You see, part of being a good progressive is also the need to mock religion. But to your point above regarding fear, religion was what people turned to in the past when they had fear. They wanted to believe some deity above was looking out for them, protecting them. With religion gone, they have turned to Big Government and made it their new religion. That is why debate is impossible with them because it is a debate between the 'Chosen People' and the 'non-believers'. In their warped view, Trump literally is the devil or Hitler because he is fighting against their religion. That is why they cannot accept any criticism of even the most moronic of government figures like Biden, Harris, AOC, or Eric Swalwell despite their shortcomings being obvious to anyone with a brain. They are no different from Scientologist attacking people that mock Tom Cruise, or Mormons with faith in their magic underwear, or ISIS cutting off people's heads (progressive Kathy Griffith showed that).

#90 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Much like when democrat policies fail - like with public school systems in large cities or poverty programs - they will not admit failure but instead claim that we didn't do the programs on a large enough scale.

#90 | Posted by Skeptical

This from the party that brought is 40 years of failed trickle down economics and it still saying the way to help the poor is to give tax cuts to the rich. Tax cuts for the rich is the only republican proposal to fix anything.

It must be fun to be in the party that gets to say "government doesn't work", after doing everything possible to prevent it from working. How successful would a corporation be if half the board of directors were trying to prove their theory that corporations cant be effective?

The one area of government that republicans DONT try to sabotage - the military - works great. We have the best military in the world. We could also have the best schools and health care if repubs didn't sabotage those.

#91 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 06:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It must be fun to be in the party that gets to say "government doesn't work", after doing everything possible to prevent it from working."

They didn't try very hard evidently as government spending is off the charts. Despite this, the failures in education and poverty eradication are plain for anyone to see as failures. The same is now happening to college education - which again, is being 'solved' by proposing loan forgiveness rather than reform of university spending or curriculum changes to something that can create value post-graduation. They just need more money!

"How successful would a corporation be if half the board of directors were trying to prove their theory that corporations cant be effective?"

Many are run that way. They are highly successful. When people won't step on the other side, the A Team B Team metric is used.

"The one area of government that republicans DONT try to sabotage - the military - works great."

Were you asleep since the Vietnam war? Did you miss that the most basic function of the military - stopping invasion by foreign powers - has failed to stop 30M people from illegal entry? Did you just miss the 20 year Afghan adventure and debacle pull out? We HAD the best military in the world. It is now a bloated spending machine incapable of basic missions due to incompetent leadership despite having the most advanced equipment in the world. We literally just admitted to losing a war to group that has a literacy rate hovering around 10% lacking an airforce, navy, or any significant mechanized units with little more training than playing on monkey bars and running through tires. In the process, we left behind enough equipment to vault the Taliban into the top 10 in the world in terms of military equipment.

"We have the best military in the world. We could also have the best schools and health care if repubs didn't sabotage those.
#91 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

We don't have the best military in the world despite spending so much money - because....shocker....throwing money at a problem will not solve it if our way of thinking is fundamentally broken.

#92 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 06:44 PM | Reply

We don't have the best military in the world despite spending so much money - because....shocker....throwing money at a problem will not solve it if our way of thinking is fundamentally broken.

#92 | Posted by Skeptical

Name a country with a better military.

#93 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 06:51 PM | Reply

"#93 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY "

Taliban 1 --- US 0
Vietnam 1 --- US 0
Syria 1 --- US 0

I will give it another few years before we chalk up Iraq to the other side too.

We can have the best military capabilities in the world but if we don't have the willingness or capability to use them, what value are they? It is akin to giving a liberal a tool belt and an unlimited Home Depot card and then telling them to go build a dog house. Makita would get rich and the dog would be homeless.

#94 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 06:58 PM | Reply

"We can have the best military capabilities in the world but if we don't have the willingness or capability to use them, what value are they?"

Be sure to put those goalposts back where you found them when you're done.

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-09-15 07:00 PM | Reply

"#95 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Military capabilities and military are 2 totally different things as seen by the scoreboard. Or are your chalking up Obama and Bush Jr's misadventures as wins? The ANA debacle is as clear as an example as anyone needs. US equipped and trained - night vision and body armor beaten in under a week by guys wearing pajamas.

#96 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 07:06 PM | Reply

Re: #92,#93

Please specify what metric you're using when claiming a military is the best' or is better'.

#97 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2021-09-15 07:07 PM | Reply

"#97 | POSTED BY TRUEBLUE"

Wins wars

I don't know how else you keep score for a military. Ability to destroy the world 10x over is great and all but kinda useless in reality. Best ability to march award probably goes to China. Best uniforms probably to the Nazis. Coolest looking planes? US but the French are a close second. Hottest probably goes to Qadaffi's female bodyguard squad. With covid, I probably give best biowarfare award to China.

#98 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-15 07:16 PM | Reply

Taliban 1 --- US 0
Vietnam 1 --- US 0
Syria 1 --- US 0

I will give it another few years before we chalk up Iraq to the other side too.

We can have the best military capabilities in the world but if we don't have the willingness or capability to use them, what value are they?

#94 | Posted by Skeptical

They keep people from attacking us stupid. "wahhhh what good is this gun if i can't shoot anyone with it?" idiot.

Why do you trump supporters always need the most basic things explained to you?

Getting into stupid wars isn't our military's fault, it's conservative warmongers' fault.

No one will attack us because we have the best military in the world, because repubs don't try to ruin it like they ruin every other government function.

We could have the best public education and public healthcare too if your party wanted that to happen. But you don't so you PREVENT it from happening.

#99 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 07:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Please specify what metric you're using when claiming a military is the best' or is better'.

#97 | Posted by TrueBlue

Least likely to be attacked by a foreign nation. Most harmful to anyone who would try to attack us.

#100 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-15 07:25 PM | Reply

"Did you miss that the most basic function of the military - stopping invasion by foreign powers - has failed to stop 30M people from illegal entry?"

Now that's funny!

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 09:16 PM | Reply

#101 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I've been trying to decide if it's worth my time to craft a response. I'm leaning toward this newest one being too willfully stupid for it to matter. Or it's just trolling.

#102 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2021-09-15 10:46 PM | Reply

I'm not skeptical that Skeptical isn't just GoatFlab in disguise.

#103 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-15 10:53 PM | Reply

"Least likely to be attacked by a foreign nation. Most harmful to anyone who would try to attack us.
#100 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

US will never be attacked by a foreign army due to the amount of guns ordinary citizen have - we don't need a military for that. But, they don't actually protect the border to stop foreign non-military personnel from invading as witness by the 30M+ illegals.

Thus, your rating criteria is pretty useless as it is based on assumed capabilities vs. demonstrated capabilities. Just like your gender studies degree has value in the abstract vs. being worthless in the real world.

#104 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 12:44 AM | Reply

"Did you miss that the most basic function of the military - stopping invasion by foreign powers - has failed to stop 30M people from illegal entry?"

Moments later,

"US will never be attacked by a foreign army due to the amount of guns ordinary citizen have"

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-16 12:49 AM | Reply

30M+ illegals? So every eleventh person I see as illegal?

#106 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-16 12:54 AM | Reply

"US will never be attacked by a foreign army due to the amount of guns ordinary citizen have"
#105 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

There is a difference between an army and individuals, although the end result is ultimately the same. I am thinking even a worthless teat like yourself would say that if 30M Chinese PLA members entered the country via the Mexican border that something should be done.

#107 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 01:54 AM | Reply

"30M+ illegals? So every eleventh person I see as illegal?
#106 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ "

Depends where you live. In CA, it even more. Whole neighborhoods of Chicago as well. The MIT estimate said more than 22M back in 2018. We will have 2M+ enter this year alone.

#108 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 01:56 AM | Reply

US will never be attacked by a foreign army due to the amount of guns ordinary citizen have - we don't need a military for that. But, they don't actually protect the border to stop foreign non-military personnel from invading as witness by the 30M+ illegals.

Thus, your rating criteria is pretty useless as it is based on assumed capabilities vs. demonstrated capabilities. Just like your gender studies degree has value in the abstract vs. being worthless in the real world.

#104 | Posted by Skeptical

You think an adversary is going to mount a land attack in this day and age of modern weaponry? Laughable!

We know you aren't a couple of former 'conservatives' who got kicked off who died of COVID.

What's your affliction? Mad cow? Trumpism?

#109 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-09-16 02:26 AM | Reply

"You think an adversary is going to mount a land attack in this day and age of modern weaponry?
#109 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

You mean like Obama tried in Syria?

#110 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 02:55 AM | Reply

You were talking about an attack on America.

Try to keep up with yourself!

#111 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-09-16 03:01 AM | Reply

"You were talking about an attack on America.
#111 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

Yes, and as I already said, no country would try that given the armed citizens - has nothing to do with the military. So, no point giving the US credit for stopping an invasion because it is not a real thing.

However, as I said before about you liberals replacing traditional religion with Big Government as your religion, I can see that you fully accept the military now. How you square that circle with the 'you' of 15 years ago is anyone's guess....but, when it comes to matters of faith, no point in me debating you.

#112 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 04:38 AM | Reply

US will never be attacked by a foreign army due to the amount of guns ordinary citizen have - we don't need a military for that. But, they don't actually protect the border to stop foreign non-military personnel from invading as witness by the 30M+ illegals.

Interesting. I severely doubt the average citizen has the capability to defend against ICBMs, drone strikes, or be able to maintain C2 infrastructure without utility power/comms.

#113 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-16 07:19 AM | Reply

The image of an aging American population defending their homeland with a personal arsenal while jetting around on their electric mobility scooters is perhaps a romantic visualization to some, but unrealistic for any type of real line of defense.

#114 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-16 07:22 AM | Reply

"I severely doubt the average citizen has the capability to defend against ICBMs, drone strikes, or be able to maintain C2 infrastructure without utility power/comms.
#113 | POSTED BY GONOLES92"

Yeah, you are right. It was the Taliban's ICBM 'star wars' installations that won them the war. As I said earlier, the Taliban ran around in pajamas and they beat a modern mechanizes army with body armor, night vision, and air superiority.

That is why Biden's F16 comments are so ridiculous. Apparently he missed Vietnam, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.

#115 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 07:30 AM | Reply

"The image of an aging American population defending their homeland with a personal arsenal while jetting around on their electric mobility scooters
#114 | POSTED BY GONOLES92"

The reality is that the liberals would race over to their Chinese invaders and beg for them to implement their glorious form of communism until they realized that lazy people starve, the Chinese don't give 2 ----- about gender identity, and they would learn what true discrimination is when they find out that the Chinese will only promote the Han people.

As to fear of the citizens of the US being armed, that is attributed to Yamamoto.

#116 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 07:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Suuure, the American public has identical wartime and warfighting experience comparable to the multiple decades of wartime coexistence had by the Afghan population. LOL

#117 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-16 07:37 AM | Reply

Soooooomebody's been binging Red Dawn. Lol.

#118 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-16 08:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Suuure, the American public has identical wartime and warfighting experience comparable to the multiple decades of wartime coexistence had by the Afghan population. LOL
#117 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 "

Given the Afghans can't read or do jumping jacks, I think the average conservative is worth 5-6 of them. For the average liberal, the reading part is the same but the jumping jacks aren't possible due to their ----------- rather than the typical Afghan that lacks the coordination or understanding of the mechanics after 10 centuries of marrying their 1st cousins. So, each liberal is worth maybe 0.5 Taliban.

#119 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-16 08:10 AM | Reply

#116
Yamamoto argued against attacking the US not because he was thinking of sending the Imperial Army into the US. Yamamoto was an intelligent, educated, sophisticated, well-traveled guy who correctly perceived an unbeatable force in the US industrial base. He was right. Very interesting fella.

#120 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-16 08:12 AM | Reply

Your need to mischaracterize and create caricatures of the Taliban to back up your argument isn't helping. It makes your point sound even more ridiculous, biased, ignorant, and uninformed than it already was. Just trying to help.

#121 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-16 08:15 AM | Reply

#121 for #119, obviously.

#122 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-16 08:16 AM | Reply

I think the average conservative is worth 5-6 of them.

Nevertheless they would be equally worthless as a line of defense regardless of their political beliefs. US civilians would either become refugees to Mexico, or get overrun in any invasion scenario and thereby are not an element in anyone's strategic defense tabletop exercise.

#123 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-16 08:19 AM | Reply

#119 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

Dumb argument. Taliban as a fighting force has decades more combat experience than any irregular "militia," in the US.

#124 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-16 08:22 AM | Reply

Yamamoto argued against attacking the US not because he was thinking of sending the Imperial Army into the US. Yamamoto was an intelligent, educated, sophisticated, well-traveled guy who correctly perceived an unbeatable force in the US industrial base. He was right. Very interesting fella.

#120 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Have you ever read "At Dawn We Slept," abridged from 12 volumes. Considered the gold standard about the Pearl Harbor attack.

Fascinating nonfiction read. The author takes us on both the Japanese and American sides before, during, and after Pearl Harbor, pulling from archives and interviews done after the end of WWII.

#125 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-09-16 03:31 PM | Reply

"Are car crashes contagious idiot?"

What's a bigger deal? Death from a non-contagion, or not dying from a contagion?

Just curious what your thoughts are on the opioid epidemic?

It's certainly not contagious.

Neither is cancer.

#126 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-16 03:32 PM | Reply

#125
AU ... Years ago, classic and, now that you mention it, well worth rereading!

#127 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-16 03:56 PM | Reply

"I disagree that they don't cherish it. Much like when democrat policies fail - like with public school systems in large cities or poverty programs - they will not admit failure but instead claim that we didn't do the programs on a large enough scale. If only we would have thrown more money at the problem, people in Detroit would have math and English literacy about 50%....If only we had locked down harder and longer."

Newsfv

#128 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-09-16 04:08 PM | Reply

School recently started. Two week incubation period. Story makes sense.

#129 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-16 05:16 PM | Reply

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