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Wednesday, September 15, 2021

One in four American adults have yet to receive even one dose of the coronavirus vaccine. To explain the risk they pose to themselves and others, we propose an analogy: The choice to remain unvaccinated is equivalent to driving while intoxicated.

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Some might balk at this comparison, but here are the similarities. Both causes of severe bodily harm are largely preventable - covid-19 through vaccination, and drunken driving by not driving after drinking alcohol. Both are individual decisions with societal consequences.

Both can cause substantial mortality, though deaths due to coronavirus far outstrip those due to drunken driving. About 10,000 people die per year in impaired-driving accidents in the United States, less than the number who died from covid-19 last week alone. More than 650,000 Americans have succumbed to the virus thus far, which is more than all recorded intoxication-related fatalities in the last 40 years combined.

For both drunken driving and going unvaccinated, we asked the same question: How large is the increased risk? Our standard for comparison is the likelihood of accident or death when the risk factor is not present.

In the case of coronavirus, recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that vaccination reduces the risk of becoming infected by a factor of five and the risk of death by 11. This is comparable to the risk of a crash when driving drunk, which is 14 times higher than for a sober person.

[W]e are pointing out that civilized society exists in part to protect the public's health and safety. In 2015, conservative commentator Ben Domenech argued that "the protection against life-threatening plague is one of the original reasons government exists."

If you decide to remain unvaccinated and are still going out, unmasked and unconstrained, to restaurants, gyms, bars and concerts, that no longer affects only you " similar to if you decide to get behind the wheel of a car while impaired. Your right to remain unvaccinated stops when you interact with those who did not choose to become exposed to a potentially deadly disease.

Entering public spaces means that consideration for others' right not to be personally affected by your presence is greater than your right to be there as a threat to others' safety. Rights come with responsibilities. No one has the right to spread communicable disease to others as a matter of their individual freedom.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-15 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Kamala Harris recently mentioned protecting the vaccinated. Isn't that what the vaccine does? I want to see as many people get vaccinated as possible. So far, the messaging from this administration has been horrible.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-15 02:40 PM | Reply

Doesn't sound horrible to me, it's very easy to understand

Get vaccinated because it saves lives
It's free
And it's conveniently available everywhere you can buy balding and -------- medication

What's so horrible about that?

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hahaha moments like this make me wish I was an ambulance chaser.

Anti-vaxxer leaves their home, gets in their car, drives to a private property and goes in, police arrest them for driving while unvaccinated.

Let the lawsuits fly lol.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-15 03:38 PM | Reply

Anti-vaxxer leaves their home, gets in their car, drives to a private property and goes in, police arrest them for driving while unvaccinated.

If that's what you get from the analogy, well..., it's Sitz. Explains everything.

Not a single word was mentioned about making non-vaccination against the law. The analogy was raised to show that our society already demands compliance from citizens (impaired driving is illegal) as it regards to them possibly bringing harm to others through otherwise legal activity.

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-15 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

If we are going to fantasize

Anti Baxter leaves home, drives wherever, enters any publicly accessible location, summarily gets black bagged, inoculated, and everyone present gets one go at them with a bag of soap before they are returned to the wild

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-15 06:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

If drunk drivers were only a significant risk to other drunk drivers, it might be a valid comparison.

#7 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-09-15 08:08 PM | Reply

"individual decisions with societal consequences"

Keep this term handy as the debates continue.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-15 11:54 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2021-09-15 02:40 PM | FLAG: DUMB@ss

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-16 12:55 AM | Reply

LegallyDead is quite the debater. What a fricking idiot.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-16 01:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My wife overheard a maskless woman at Kroger telling a friend she'd just been diagnosed with COVID.

I mean, REALLY?!!

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-09-16 02:05 AM | Reply

"There is a virus here, it kills people," he said. "The only way we prevent it is get vaccinated, get masks, do social distancing, washing your hands all the time, and not just to think about, 'Well my freedom is being kind of disturbed here.' No, screw your freedom. Because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities, you cannot just say, 'I have the right to do X, Y and Z,' when you affect other people, that is when it gets serious. It's no different from a traffic light, you put a traffic light at an intersection so someone doesn't kill someone else."

Arnold Schwarzenegger

#12 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2021-09-16 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So far, the messaging from this administration has been horrible.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger

Is this the one that said not to trust the CDC, the FDA, fauci, that the virus would vanish over the summer, only 15 people would die, and household disinfectant might be a good idea?

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-16 12:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If drunk drivers were only a significant risk to other drunk drivers, it might be a valid comparison.

#7 | Posted by sentinel

If voluntarily unvaccinated people were no threat to vaccinated people or people who can't get vaccinated, you might have a clever point. But you dont.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-16 01:00 PM | Reply

If voluntarily unvaccinated people were no threat to vaccinated people or people who can't get vaccinated, you might have a clever point. But you dont.

#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Not even then would he because drunk driving doesn't reproduce and mutate and create new variants that spreads to sober drivers and intoxicates them.

#15 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-09-16 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"If voluntarily unvaccinated people were no threat to vaccinated people or people who can't get vaccinated, you might have a clever point. But you dont."
#14 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

"Not even then would he because drunk driving doesn't reproduce and mutate and create new variants that spreads to sober drivers and intoxicates them."
#15 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

Wow... you really can't see how you're making my point that it's a crap analogy.

#16 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-09-16 03:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wow... you really can't see how you're making my point that it's a crap analogy.

#16 | Posted by sentinel

Except it's not. Drunk driving and being unvaxxed are both personal choices made by -------- that threaten the lives of others.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-16 03:30 PM | Reply

Drunk driving threatens everyone almost equally, regardless of whether the other other drivers are drunk or not. Also, "drunk driving doesn't reproduce and mutate and create new variants that spreads to sober drivers and intoxicates them."

Hoist by your own petards. LOL

#18 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-09-16 08:33 PM | Reply

you really can't see how you're making my point that it's a crap analogy.
#16 | Posted by sentinel

I agree that it is a poor analogy because it seriously downplays the risk that the unvaccinated present to society. The unvaccinated are a far greater risk than drunk drivers have ever been. They are now collectively responsible for much more damage and death. Drunk drivers don't even come close to measuring up. I support strict travel restrictions for the unvaccinated unless they have a verifiable health problem that prevents them from receiving vaccinations. I also support strong legal punishments for them if they catch covid and then spread it to others.

#19 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-09-17 01:15 AM | Reply

Except it's not. Drunk driving and being unvaxxed are both personal choices made by -------- that threaten the lives of others.
#17 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Drunk driving is often a symptom of a drinking disorder. Whereas the unvaxed acts willfully in presenting a risk to society, the drunk driver may have limited control over their risky behavior and are deserving of compassion and treatment.

#20 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-09-17 01:22 AM | Reply

So far, the messaging from this administration has been horrible.

#2 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I know you're trying to sound moderate but you damn well know the remaining 25% aren't getting vaccinated no matter how good the messaging is.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2021-09-17 01:36 AM | Reply

Wow... you really can't see how you're making my point that it's a crap analogy.

Only if you're being intentionally obtuse.

*looks down*

#16 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Never mind.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2021-09-17 01:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Well, can we also say that speeding is a danger to others on the road and texting and talking and read books and watching videos etc...
We have safety items like seatbelts to lessen the damage to the occupants, airbags, anti-lock breaks etc....
Can I choose to drive without a seatbelt, a car without airbags or antilock? Can I choose not to drive?

The vaccine and the virus
It's killing people and harming them permanently.

Almost every virus in the past we focused on heard immunity. Virology 101 is that it can be obtained through infection or vaccination. Both have risks but now I am hearing that the vaccine is not a real vaccine in that it was never designed to stop from being infected. Being told that natural immunity is not sufficient and that you still need to be vaccinated!

So where does that leave us and has the science changed? The definition of heard immunity changed>?? or the definition of vaccinated?
Let's spend billions more on more vaccines and marketing and coercion tactics.

Sorry to blow up your analogy thread but people need to wake up and see through the lies we have been told the mind control programs!

I have seen the seatbelt analogy the raincoat and now the drunk driving...all poor excuses of your real purpose and it just uncovers how messed up society is....

The power-mongers in this world will never admit to anything but success while standing on your grave!

This mess will go down in history if we live through it ...God help us!

#23 | Posted by coreelements at 2021-09-17 04:03 PM | Reply

Another weekend, another sock puppet.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-09-17 07:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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