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Wednesday, September 15, 2021

The FBI has fired an agent who allegedly failed to investigate former USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar ahead of a congressional hearing centered on the agency's improper handling of the child sex-abuse investigation, Director Christopher Wray told lawmakers on Wednesday.

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Is this the same agent who investigated the drunken gang rapist on the Supreme Court?

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-09-15 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1 GFY. You are such a disgusting hack. Are you Avenetti's Mini-me?

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-15 08:55 PM | Reply

#1 - I bet it's the same agent. What a POS. I was horrified listening to the testimony today.

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-15 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The girls consented to a medical exam.
Cosplayers fist each other all the time. What's the big deal?
--FBI

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 09:22 PM | Reply

First question ... .why wasn't he fired a long time ago?

Second question, why was an FBI agent interviewing a rape victim? The FBI does not investigate rapes, they do not have the training to investigate rape.That is a state crime. He probably didn't document the interview because he knows he never should have interviewed her in the first place. The victim should have been treated kindly, compassionately and immediately put her in touch with the local police in the jurisdiction where the crime occurred. She should not have been asked to tell her story twice.

#5 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-15 09:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"First question ... .why wasn't he fired a long time ago?"

Because he's a good guy with a gun. Duh.

"Second question, why was an FBI agent interviewing a rape victim?"

Because the case was in Federal court.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-15 10:07 PM | Reply

Says the disgusting hack.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-15 11:00 PM | Reply

The agent also broke the law, but was given a pass by the DOJ this summer.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2021-09-15 11:53 PM | Reply

No, it was not in federal court, Sexual assault is not a federal crime. The FBI had no jurisdiction and should have immediately turned it over to state/local authorities. Instead they just sat on it and did nothing. They NEVER notified the local,police. That is not just appalling, it is criminal.

For more than a year the victims were under the impression the case was being investigated. Finally, another victim notified the correct jurisdiction (MSU police) who conducted a proper investigation that led to Nassau's arrest. They also obtained a search warrant which found child porn, unrelated to the gymnasts claims. Only then did the FBI gain jurisdiction for the child porn, which is a federal crime.

#9 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-15 11:57 PM | Reply

The FBI had no jurisdiction and should have immediately turned it over to state/local authorities.

The FBI did have jurisdiction since the assaults not only happened across various state lines, some occurred outside the United States itself. The FBI is the only US law enforcement group who can investigate crimes against Americans that happen outside the country.

As it regards assaults that happened in home base in Michigan, yes, local authorities have jurisdiction.

Nassar was the doctor for the US National Team, his assaults were not limited to any single location. He traveled with the team.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-16 12:15 AM | Reply

#10 continued...

McKayla Maroney, an Olympian in 2012, also testified, describing in detail how Mr. Nassar repeatedly abused her, even at the London Games, where she won a gold medal. She said she survived a harrowing ordeal when she and Mr. Nassar were at a competition in Tokyo, certain she "was going to die that night because there was no way he was going to let me go."

www.nytimes.com

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-16 12:23 AM | Reply

I understand this guy was a piece of ---- and you don't finger young ladies because they have a sprain. I'd strap him to an ant hill myself.

My question is, for any legal mind here, they say they find child porn on your computer. How do they prove that? I'd say the cops put it on there, who could disprove that? Obviously I'm pretty computer illiterate but it seems they could do that to anyone.

#12 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-16 12:38 AM | Reply

@12 BruceAZ

It's an interesting question but also irrelevant. Nasser was found guilty based upon the testimonies of countless brave victims. His conviction didn't need whatever was on his computer.

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-16 01:03 AM | Reply

I understand that Bell, but it was brought up. My question was in general not specific. It was kinda an icing on the cake thing.

You could be arrested for anything

Oh yeah, we found child porn on your computer. Well no you didn't. I guess the forensic guys can figure that out. I don't know.

#14 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-16 01:17 AM | Reply

Tony, with all due respect, that is not how it works. A sexual assault is a violation of state law in the state where the sexual assault occurred. If he sexually assaulted 30 team members in 20 different states, that would not be a federal crime. Each case would be prosecuted in the state where it occurred. "Across state lines" applies in cases of kidnapping, trafficking, or if the victim was "procured" from another state or transported across state lines by the perpetrator for the purpose of committing the sexual act. If both suspect and victim were in the same state when all elements of the crime took place, that is not "across state lines". All the sexual assault charges against him were state charges.

As for foreign countries, The FBI could "investigate" but could not bring charges in Tokyo or London, it would be up to Japan or England. There are a couple odd "Extraterritorial" authorities the FBI has in cases of Americans traveling for the purposes of having sex with minors, but that is targeted at American "sex tourists", generally exploiting foreign children. It is possible that law could be applied to Miss Maroney's case, I'm not sure.

#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-16 01:24 AM | Reply

Bruce,
When a computer is seized, the hard drive is mirrored/copied. All forensic examination is done on a copy. Chain of custody is documented at every step of the search and seizure process. Considering child pornography is often shared, dates and times of origin of those files can often be verified through external means as well, such as ISP server records.

Bellringer,
60 years of his sentence came from the federal charges involving the child porn on his computer, so yes, it was very relevant. It was a good backstop in case he had somehow beaten the sexual assault charges.

#16 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-16 01:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

From the FBI site:
Child Sexual Abuse

Child sexual abuse issues are generally handled by state and local authorities, and not by the federal government. There are many sound reasons for this, including the relationship between the states, which generally have broad authority within their jurisdictions, and the federal government, which has constitutional limitations on its authority. As a result, the Department of Justice generally has no province over these matters.

#17 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-16 01:37 AM | Reply

Also from FBI site:
The FBI's jurisdiction in crimes or attacks against Americans abroad dates back to the mid-1980s, when Congress passed laws authorizing us to investigate hostage-taking and kidnappings of Americans and terrorist acts against U.S. nationals or interests overseas. Of course, we don't go uninvited into another country"we get permission from the host government and always work with that nation's law enforcement and security personnel, in concert with the U.S. Embassy and the Ambassador.

Our jurisdiction doesn't extend to non-terrorism related homicides, robberies, rapes, and muggings of Americans"these are usually handled by local authorities. But we can"and sometimes do"offer investigative or forensics assistance in these cases if asked.

#18 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-09-16 01:38 AM | Reply

#16 thanks

#19 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-16 01:38 AM | Reply

My question is, for any legal mind here, they say they find child porn on your computer. How do they prove that? I'd say the cops put it on there, who could disprove that? Obviously I'm pretty computer illiterate but it seems they could do that to anyone.

Posted by bruceaz

I believe metadata would identify the date files were added to a hard drive. Every file on any computer I have has a 'date added.'

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-09-16 02:04 AM | Reply

#18

I stand corrected to a point. You were correct in #15. The LA FBI office did open a "federal sexual tourism" investigation against Nassar sometime after May 2016 though no such charges were ever filed. (oig.justice.gov)

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-16 06:24 AM | Reply

Second question, why was an FBI agent interviewing a rape victim?

Because the FBI was the initial law enforcement entity approached. The largest part of this scandal is that they didn't promptly share their information with appropriate local officials.

In July 2015, following a USA Gymnastics internal investigation into allegations of sexual assault by Nassar against multiple gymnasts, USA Gymnastics President and Chief Executive Officer Stephen D. Penny, Jr., reported the allegations to the FBI's Indianapolis Field Office. During the meeting, among other things, Penny described graphic information that three gymnasts (Gymnasts 1, 2, and 3), all of whom were minors at the time of the alleged sexual assaults, had provided to USA Gymnastics. Penny further informed the FBI that the three athletes were available to be interviewed.

Over the next 6 weeks, the Indianapolis Field Office conducted limited follow-up, which involved conducting a telephonic interview on September 2 of one of the three athletes, reviewing the thumb drive provided by Penny, and discussing the allegations with the U.S. Attorney's Office (USAO) in the Southern District of Indiana and the FBI's Detroit Field Office. The Indianapolis office did not formally document any of its investigative activity, including its July meeting with USA Gymnastics and its September 2 telephonic interview of one of the victim gymnasts. The office also did not formally open an investigation or assessment of the matter.

oig.justice.gov

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2021-09-16 06:32 AM | Reply

In my LE career it was a running joke that FBI stood for Famous But Incompetent. Most of the time when we had to get the FBI involved, they just deferred to local jurisdictions anyway. Sometimes the local jurisdiction would not take the case, and it stayed with the FBI. Only one FBI agent ever impressed me that he have a damn about the actual case or people involved.

This case stymies me, as to why the FBI wouldn't have immediately reached out to a local jurisdiction. Not only is it more appropriate for a potential sexual assault charge, local jurisdictions will have investigators trained in child sexual assault cases, as well as other resources to help and support the victims.

This failure by the FBI agent does seem to constitute nonfeasance, possibly at a criminal level.

#23 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2021-09-16 11:19 AM | Reply

#23 Same reason for tens of thousands of untested rape kits.

The police are protecting the rapists among them. Others just don't think these are serious crimes. They display the full spectrum of rape culture, which goes hand in glove with the machismo and jingoism and steroid use and which pervades the police.

I can't think of a better explanation. Occam's Razor.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-16 11:25 AM | Reply

Larry Nassar...
Larry Nassar....
Larry Nassar...

Meanwhile, somewhere in Texas, mass murderer and nation-raper George W. Bush continues painting...

#25 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2021-09-16 11:36 AM | Reply

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