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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, September 21, 2021

Border Patrol officers on horseback swinging whips in the faces of Haitians. Families with toddlers scrambling across the Rio Grande back into Mexico to avoid being deported.

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"U.S. immigration policies also play a role. In years past, migrants tended to stay in Mexican border cities on informal waitlists for their turn to present themselves at a port of entry, but now the U.S. isn't allowing any migrant to request asylum at ports of entry."

Anyway, I feel like horses and whips is better than armored cars, helicopters, tear gas, and rubber bullets. Though it certainly has an 1860s feel to it.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-21 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

While I am skeptical of most things police/LE, I don't see that anywhere yet. I have had whips (yes I thought Indiana Jones was cool as a kid...) I see long reins in the photos (like the one here). Assuredly they can be used to whack someone like with a whip though they are not all that "long". None of the pictures I have seen have shown anyone doing this though. Nor have I seen any photos of anyone with "whip" marks.

While I certainly don't put it by "officers" to do such things - show me the evidence. I find it hard to believe they would do it while under the microscope they are at this location and not get caught. Not to mention that pictures showing the marks aren't being published everywhere.

Regardless the optics are terrible. I think this is an over reaction and media mis-characterization. I will await confirmation either way. Horses are just another LE tool. Helpful with large crowds for sure.

#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-09-21 05:53 PM | Reply

This is how China Biden is dispersing COVID carrying migrants into the American population

It's practically a stampede!

- - skepticalbomberster

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 06:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I once saw the Amazing Jonathon attempt to snap a cigarette out of his wife's mouth and cut her under the eye instead. It was a trick/illusion but everyone in the audience crapped their pants. Very effective.

#4 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 06:13 PM | Reply

Obligatory, unfortunately...

www.youtube.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-21 06:14 PM | Reply

"but everyone in the audience crapped their pants. Very effective."

Well you can spare the whip training and just hand the audience Ivermectin. Same result. Very effective.

#6 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2021-09-21 06:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

If they actually swung a whip anywhere near the Haitians they are clearly so stupid they cannot be employed as border agents.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-21 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Regardless the optics are terrible."

I know.

Customs and Border Patrol agents aren't wearing masks, in the midst of COVID-carrying disease infested illegals from ---- stain countries!

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-21 06:29 PM | Reply

This is border patrol agents' dream come true. Their fantasies of being able to whip brown people are finally being realized.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 06:58 PM | Reply

""U.S. immigration policies also play a role. In years past, migrants tended to stay in Mexican border cities on informal waitlists for their turn to present themselves at a port of entry, but now the U.S. isn't allowing any migrant to request asylum at ports of entry."
#1 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

US policies play a role but not like this writer says. How many of the 10K Haitians would qualify for refugee status? They are all economic migrants and EVERYONE knows it. So, don't play this game that the 2M illegals that will stream across the border this year all have a right to be here and it is just a matter of processing their asylum claims.

They are coming here because of the absolute failure that is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They told the migrants to come and they did. During the Dem debates, they promised the illegals free health and medical care. They ensure they can get drivers licenses, will not be deported even if they commit crimes, and will be able to work in the US. Those are the policies that led to the problem at the border - nothing to do with asylum claims at ports of entry.

#10 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 07:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Providing driver's licenses to unauthorized immigrants in California improves traffic safety
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

^Who would of thought?

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 07:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It looks like that scene from planet of the.....something where all the humans are being rounded up.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-21 07:13 PM | Reply

"#11 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

Every single crime or accident committed by an illegal is one that did not need to occur at all. So liberals pretending to care about safety is laughable.

#13 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 07:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So liberals pretending to care about safety is laughable.

#13 | Posted by Skeptical

Are you going to lecture us about safety through the covid mask your cult calls marxist oppression?

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It's been proven they didnt have "whips", but dont let facts get in the way of your narrative.

But no one still has answered a question:

1. How did those Haitians get all the way to Texas with an ocean between us?

2. Why didnt they just stop at Cuba?

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2021-09-21 07:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

They are coming here because of the absolute failure that is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They told the migrants to come and they did. During the Dem debates, they promised the illegals free health and medical care. They ensure they can get drivers licenses, will not be deported even if they commit crimes, and will be able to work in the US. Those are the policies that led to the problem at the border - nothing to do with asylum claims at ports of entry.

#10 | Posted by Skeptical

They're coming here because their country is falling apart so they're leaving. If you were leaving to start a new life somewhere else, would you pick another third world country or go somewhere better?

We're going to see a link to biden and harris telling illegals to come here. Just because infowars tells you something happened doesnt mean it happened.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They are coming here for free stuff. Just ask them. But that doesn't make the news because it does not promote the appropriate agenda. But don't worry. China Joe and Kamaltoe will not only usher them in, they will send a bunch of US tax dollars to their home countries for screwing up their home countries so that they are trying to make the move in the first place.

#17 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2021-09-21 07:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's been proven they didnt have "whips", but dont let facts get in the way of your narrative.

But no one still has answered a question:

1. How did those Haitians get all the way to Texas with an ocean between us?

2. Why didnt they just stop at Cuba?

#15 | Posted by boaz

1. duh

2. would you stop in a third world -------- if you were them, or would you go a little further to a country where you could have a much better life?

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 07:20 PM | Reply

It's been proven they didnt have "whips"

#15 | Posted by boaz

The linguists who wanted to argue over the definition of INSURRECTION now want to argue over the definition of WHIPS.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 07:21 PM | Reply

SO michael moore lied to us?

cuba isn't a workers paradise?

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-21 07:21 PM | Reply

White colonizer mentality. No human feeling towards those people.

It allows "justified depravity".

#21 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-09-21 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"SO michael moore lied to us? cuba isn't a workers paradise?"

Who fed you that malarkey? Moore (correctly) pointed out Cuba had better universal health coverage than Americans with health coverage. And the former didn't have a cadre of employees whose sole purpose was to deny otherwise legitimate claims.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-09-21 07:27 PM | Reply

Okay then why don't illegal immigrants go there?

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-21 07:29 PM | Reply

they will send a bunch of US tax dollars to their home countries for screwing up their home countries so that they are trying to make the move in the first place.

#17 | Posted by bogey1355

How exactly does one cause an earthquake? Were they fracking too much?

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 07:31 PM | Reply

"1. How did those Haitians get all the way to Texas with an ocean between us?"

Musta been one of them "caravans" we kept hearing about during the last administration.

Politicizing the refugee crisis only worsens it, is where I think you and I differ.

This transcends President and Party.

But then the GOP politicized it. Republicans killed the Gang of Eight and with it our last chance of a bipartisan deal on immigration.

Trump made good use of that xenophobia and got those Deplorable First Time Voters to the polls.

But it doesn't help solve the problem.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-21 07:42 PM | Reply

"Okay then..."

No, first answer my question: who fed you the BS; what source?

And will you trust that source in the future?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-09-21 07:56 PM | Reply

So liberals pretending to care about safety is laughable.
#13 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

HAHA! Got yuh there!

I aint no stinkin' lib!

Now about that study...hmmmmmm

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 07:56 PM | Reply

"Politicizing the refugee crisis only worsens it, is where I think you and I differ.
#25 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

No. Telling illegals to come here for free stuff worsens it. Telling them that they will be stopped at the border and deported if they successfully cross as well as being ineligible for free stuff will make it better. Then again, you have no intention of making it better because making it a mess in the first place was your goal.

#28 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 08:00 PM | Reply

Then again, you have no intention of making it better because making it a mess in the first place was your goal.

#28 | Posted by Skeptical

Why would dems want a mess at the border?

Use both brain cells. Just because democrats dont terrorize brown children with cruelty and abuse doesn't mean we want uncontrolled migration across our borders.

Your cult acts like our only choices are trump's cruelty or open borders.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Telling illegals to come here for free stuff worsens it."

Please link to a specific example of Biden or Harris "telling illegals to come here for free stuff".

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-09-21 08:09 PM | Reply

"#30 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Go watch the Dem debates in 2019. They all raised their hands for giving them free stuff.

#31 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 08:11 PM | Reply

Go watch the Dem debates in 2019. They all raised their hands for giving them free stuff.

#31 | Posted by Skeptical

Maybe you should have asked one of them about it instead of just parroting the breitbart headline.

thehill.com
"South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg was the first to defend the concept, arguing that a federal program providing health coverage to undocumented migrants would not significantly add to the deficit.

"Our country is healthier when everybody is healthier. And remember we're talking about something people are given a chance to buy into. In the same way that there are undocumented immigrants in my community who pay " they pay sales taxes, they pay property taxes, directly or indirectly " this is not about a hand out. This is an insurance program and we do no favors by having 11 million undocumented people in our country be unable to access health care," he said."

If that's too many words for you I'll boil it down - it's not free. They pay into it like everyone else.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 08:20 PM | Reply

They all raised their hands for giving them free stuff.
#31 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

Liiiiiiiiiiike?

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 08:22 PM | Reply

"Liiiiiiiiiiike?
#33 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

www.youtube.com

#34 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 08:26 PM | Reply

"there are undocumented immigrants in my community who pay"
#32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

That is akin to calling a rape a 'yet to be consented sexual encounter'

#35 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 08:33 PM | Reply

We didn't whip them with whips, we whipped them with whip-like cords! Big difference there

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No need to be dramatic. There were no whips. There were lassos in use, though. Perhaps those are confused for whips.

If the federal government did its job and protected our borders, the states would not have to with whatever means they have.

Texas is having to divert their troopers from elsewhere in the state to the border. Why is Texas having to foot the border patrol bill? If the current administration does no like the way the border states are dealing with a crisis they should not have to, then the federal government should step in and do it.

If any reader here does not like the way the border states are dealing with a national problem, write your congressman and president and tell them. Tell them the feds need to get down there and do their jobs so the Texans (both government and private) don't have to.

#37 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 09:13 PM | Reply

Lasso = loop made of rope

Tough to see the loops.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:20 PM | Reply

#38 - even if they are whips, the feds need to get down there and to their job so vigilantes don't.

Also as I said, Texans should not have to foot the bill for border security. That is clearly a federal job.

Large numbers of the (national) border patrol have been moved away. So Texas Rangers and the highway patrol have been relocated to the border to fill in the vacuum the feds left. It isn't right.

#39 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 09:30 PM | Reply

It's actually called a lariat. Lasso is what you do with a lariat

#40 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 09:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Texans knew what they were getting into when moving to/living in Texas.

You think you're going to come down here to San Diego and not expect getting a California burrito shoved down your throat?

You'd be naive if so.

#41 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:34 PM | Reply

And I don't know what skepticals problem is

The article is about them being turned away and from the images, a good beat down to boot

Note the face of that guy on the horse. There is hate in that mans face

Skepticals should be thrilled

#42 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 09:35 PM | Reply

Nah, they're split reins, which can be used as whips.

But more recent reporting suggests nobody was whipped in the first place. Just horse mounted LEOs stirring up commotion to influence undocumented immigrants behavior.

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:36 PM | Reply

Skepticals should be thrilled
#42 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

LEOs were chastising the undocumented immigrants, calling their home country a ---- hole.

#44 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:37 PM | Reply

"Texans knew what they were getting into when moving to/living in Texas."

And Texans like me should have known better than to be born here?

So you are saying that people who move to Texas should accept the fact the federal government isn't doing their job? That sure is a cop out.

I think the feds should be doing their job at the border. I see nothing wrong with that expectation.

Would you be so cavalier if the jobs the feds should do weren't getting done? Would you just brush it off as, "Oh well. I guess I and the people of my state should know better"?

#45 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 09:37 PM | Reply

What I want to know is:

If an asshat claiming to be from Texas doesn't know what a lariat is, does he "know" anything at all?

Talk about suspect!

#46 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 09:40 PM | Reply

How are dirt poor haitians getting to the Mexican border, anyway?

#47 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 09:41 PM | Reply

So you are saying that people who move to Texas should accept the fact the federal government isn't doing their job? That sure is a cop out.

Of they were aware of it before moving there, of course! Especially if any of them are negatively firectly affected by undocumented immigration. They knew the risk was higher in a border state not properly supported by the feds. Pretty simple.

I think the feds should be doing their job at the border. I see nothing wrong with that expectation.

Repubs were in federal power for how long without a definitive answer? The Wall wouldn't stop this situation, so what's the alternative? Outright war fare against people seeking refuge? What should be the federal response, specifically?

#48 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:44 PM | Reply

What I want to know is:
If an asshat claiming to be from Texas doesn't know what a lariat is, does he "know" anything at all?
Talk about suspect!
#46 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

Yeeeesh

#49 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 09:46 PM | Reply

"Repubs were in federal power for how long without a definitive answer? "

I don't know. Google it.

I'm far more interested in seeking solutions than laying blame.

#50 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 09:50 PM | Reply

"How did they get to Mexico"

That seems to be the common theme of the right wing yackers
As if some nefarious force is behind it all

But since you "asked" you can start here, dumbass

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

#51 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 09:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How are dirt poor haitians getting to the Mexican border, anyway?

#47 | Posted by jakester

How do supposed "liberals" happen to every day parrot whatever the right wing talking point of the day is?

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 09:56 PM | Reply

That is akin to calling a rape a 'yet to be consented sexual encounter'

#35 | Posted by Skeptical

Who is being raped when an illegal immigrant pays taxes and gets healthcare?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 09:57 PM | Reply

"Texans knew what were getting into when moving to/living in Texas."

Likewise, Haitians should know the same, right? Especially since they are knowingly breaking the law, unlike people who legally live in Texas.

I have more expectations for our government to treat our legal law abiding citizens correctly than illegals.

#54 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:01 PM | Reply

"I have more expectations for our government to treat our legal law abiding citizens correctly than illegals."

Gross.

This fascism thing that's been growing for 30 years is seemingly unstoppable now.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-21 10:06 PM | Reply

Poor jakester His belief in the self evident truths ends promptly at the boarder. You know, a line on a map

#56 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-21 10:11 PM | Reply

I'm far more interested in seeking solutions than laying blame.
#50 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Funny, that was the crux of my question, which included a request for specifics pertaining to an alternative.

Yet all I get is "Google it."

Fascinating.

#57 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 10:16 PM | Reply

#57 - I have no interest in the answer to your question. You obviously do, or you would not have asked it. Yet you expect me to look it up for you.

Also fascinating.

#58 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:19 PM | Reply

Jakester would have you believe that Americans fleeing California for the greener pastures of Texas is directly comparable to Haitians fleeing Haiti to take part in the American Dream's free ---- fairy giveaways.

I mean, I guess.

#59 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 10:19 PM | Reply

Also fascinating.
#58 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Just curious where your argument actually lands beyond "it's the feds responsibility."

There's nothing of substance in regards to the solution that which you seek. So you're saying you're only capable of identifying the problem and not the solution?

So be it.

#60 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 10:22 PM | Reply

"So you're saying you're only capable of identifying the problem and not the solution?"

The solution is for the feds to do their job and maintain border security. I thought I was clear on that.

#61 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:26 PM | Reply

Horses, whips and deportations is not enough?

Land mines, machine guns?

Come on tell us how to do it?

#62 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 10:30 PM | Reply

I thought I was clear on that.
#61 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

In the most vague and abstract way possible yes. But that's not what was asked.

So I guess I've got my answer: You don't have a solution.

Thanks.

#63 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 10:30 PM | Reply

" But that's not what was asked."

I know. You asked (before you moved the goalposts) "Repubs were in federal power for how long without a definitive answer? "

I replied that I am not interested in assigning blame. I am interested in solutions. I further stated the solution was for the feds to control our borders.

Sorry if that is not an acceptable solution to you. I don't think anyone could come up with a better one. Can you?

#64 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:35 PM | Reply

"Horses, whips and deportations is not enough?"

Considering that there are an estimated 12 million illegals in the US, apparently it is not enough.

#65 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:38 PM | Reply

How do you stop starvation?

You feed everyone, of course!

#66 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-21 10:38 PM | Reply

The question is 'to what extent should they go to control the borders'?

It's easy to say control the borders, what are you willing to accept?

See#62

And don't say fence trumpee

#67 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 10:42 PM | Reply

the solution was for the feds to control our borders.

The only reason it's not acceptable is that it's hollow. All you doing are putting the blame on the feds, which apparently you weren't interested in doing before, but are perfectly okay doing now.

The goal posts have officially been moved by you.

What should the feds be doing differently than what the current Dem run fed and previously Repub run fed did?

It's curious why you're evading the actual crux of the inquiry originally made; I know for certain you comprehended my original post's intent. Don't bull ---- a bull -------.

#68 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-21 10:44 PM | Reply

#67 - I'm not even sure what "fence trumpee" means, so don't worry. I won't say that.

I do know what NOT to do. You don't decrease border security. You don't expect the state to relocate their highway patrol to fill in the vacuum created.

#69 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:48 PM | Reply

#68 - If I say the way to catch more mice is to build a better mousetrap, does it fail to be true because I don't know how to build one?

You are like so many others here. You think that if someone can't keep answering your string of questions the original premise is false.

There is no shame in admitting I can't built a better mousetrap. Too many people think that kind of honesty is unacceptable. But not being a mousetrap engineer does not mean a better mousetrap is not the solution to getting rid of the mice.

I actually do have ideas how to help solve the problem, but I'm not in the mood for hearing -------- call me a Nazi or the usual childish retorts this place is rife with to those who provide honest answers.

#70 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 10:55 PM | Reply

"Considering that there are an estimated 12 million illegals in the US, apparently it is not enough.
#65 | POSTED BY JAKESTER "

The 12M number was from 20+ years ago. MIT has estimated the number is double that today. This year alone there is expected to be 2M illegals arriving.

#71 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 10:57 PM | Reply

#68 - you ask how to increase border security. There are almost 200 countries who can answer that question. No country on this planet has as leaky of borders as the US. That is a fact.

Do you think people in Asia and eastern Europe would be storming across the Chinese and Russian borders as they do the US southern border? Laughable.

So maybe see how they keep secure borders.

#72 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:07 PM | Reply

Why the hell would anyone stream across the Russian or Chinese borders?

Ask yourself this, of the billions of people in the world and us with a relatively small population yet are the wealthiest in the world, were would you go? France, Britain and Germany have the same problem.

#73 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:15 PM | Reply

"Why the hell would anyone stream across the Russian or Chinese borders?"

Deflection noted.

Do you think millions of people could do it and get away with it as they do here?

#74 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:16 PM | Reply

"Ask yourself this, of the billions of people in the world and us with a relatively small population yet are the wealthiest in the world, were would you go? France, Britain and Germany have the same problem."

Probably the US or a western European country. But I would do it legally. I am not a lawbreaker.

I don't think being a prosperous country gives everyone in the world a free ticket to break our immigration laws. Do you?

#75 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:19 PM | Reply

Deflection my ass.

#76 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:20 PM | Reply

I would do it legally, easy to say when you're already here.

#77 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:22 PM | Reply

#75 - of course it was a deflection. The desire to enter a country is irrelevant to the country permitting massive illegal entry.

Answer the question, please. Would China or Russia allow millions of people to swarm across their borders? Yes or no?

I'll answer for you, Bruceaz. They wouldn't.

#78 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:23 PM | Reply

"I would do it legally, easy to say when you're already here."

If I wanted to emigrate to Europe, I would do it legally. That's still easy to say even though I'm not already there.

Next deflection?

#79 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:24 PM | Reply

And for any Adam Smither here who wants to bring up the free movement of capital and deny the free movement of labor you can go ---- yourself.

I do realise that's a different topic.

#80 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:27 PM | Reply

"And for any Adam Smither here who wants to bring up the free movement of capital and deny the free movement of labor you can go ---- yourself.
#80 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ "

That would apply to the globalist Democrats that do not believe in nation states. I agree with you on what they can do. Trumpers are for controlled borders and economic policies that benefit the nation state. Democrats want to ship your jobs to China and import a pseudo-slave class to do unskilled labor in the US to destroy the bottom tier of the wage scale as well as importing skilled tech workers to suppress wages for 'new economy' professions. They do this at the behest of their billionaire donors because they want the money and understand their voting base is too stupid to understand they are cutting their own throats.

#81 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-09-21 11:36 PM | Reply

Anyway I'm not for open borders, Obama deported dhitloads of people. Biden's doing it now.
And you still are going Gracie on them.

#82 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:39 PM | Reply

Democrats want to ship your jobs to China.

You ignorant ----.

#83 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:41 PM | Reply

" Obama deported dhitloads of people. Biden's doing it now."

But he has lost control of the border.

A sinking ship is best saved by plugging the leaks, not bailing.

#84 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:45 PM | Reply

He lost control of the border? What was the difference with G W Botch?

And who says we're sinking?

Life is pretty good for me, et tu?

#85 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:49 PM | Reply

"What was the difference with G W Botch?"

I don't know. Are you implying that if "Botch" lost control of the border, Biden can't? I don't understand the reference. The two are not mutually exclusive.

#86 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:53 PM | Reply

Hmmmm, familiar circles.

#87 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:54 PM | Reply

"And who says we're sinking?"

The analogy of the ship to the increasing number of illegal immigrants says so.

Are you struggling with that analogy/metaphor?

#88 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:55 PM | Reply

"Life is pretty good for me, et tu?"

vita bona est

#89 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:56 PM | Reply

Yeah, I'm struggling.

#90 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-21 11:57 PM | Reply

#90 - c'est la vie

#91 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-21 11:58 PM | Reply

N'est pas

#92 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-22 12:00 AM | Reply

#92 - weird. A few minutes ago in post #85 it was. What liffe changing event happened to you between post #85 and post #92?

#93 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 12:02 AM | Reply

They wouldn't.
#78 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

How would/do they stop it?

#94 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-22 12:06 AM | Reply

OFCS, I was struggling with your analogy/metaphor.

Now I must get some sleep before some billionaire liberal ships my job of to Gyna or gives it to an immigrant.

#95 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-22 12:06 AM | Reply

#94 - I'm not sure. I'd have to google it. But I'm pretty sure guns with orders 'shoot to kill' are part of it. It worked pretty well in east Germany/Berlin, and Russia their master.

#96 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 12:10 AM | Reply

#96 those guns were for keeping people in not immigrants out.

Come on man, you know that Jake.

#97 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-22 12:14 AM | Reply

Know

#98 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-22 12:18 AM | Reply

#98 - so you think Russians wouldn't shoot you if you went across their border illegally?

I think that's a bit naive, but I'm not in the mood to google that, so you can have that point, however pollyannaish it appears.

#99 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 12:23 AM | Reply

Circles

Old pal

#100 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-09-22 12:25 AM | Reply

How exactly does one cause an earthquake? Were they fracking too much?

And why dont these "earthquakes" ever affect the Dominican Republic this Haiti -------- is attached to? It's all the same island, but it only ever seems to screw up one side. We never hear about that.

#101 | Posted by boaz at 2021-09-22 12:34 AM | Reply

#101 - islands are arbitrary. They are dependent on sea level. Fault lines have nothing to do with islands.

Here is an explanation of fault lines on Hispaniola. That may help explain.

www.usgs.gov

#102 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 12:40 AM | Reply

A live American breaking Russian law is far more valuable to Russia than a dead American that broke Russian law, wouldn't you agree?

#103 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-22 12:58 AM | Reply

I am not interested in assigning blame to Republicans. I am interested in solutions from Democrats. I further stated the solution was for the feds to control our borders, but have zero clue what that means on entails.
#64 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

At least be honest you fkkking lying sack of shht.

Can you ever do that?

12+ years of posting in the DR proves you're incapable.

It's a shame RCade hasn't banned you again.

But you're a plague. An unemployed, unemployable troll.

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-22 01:22 AM | Reply

#104 - Truth.

#105 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-22 07:23 AM | Reply

Biden immediately reversed policies that had succeeded in stemming the flow of illegal immigration. Remain in Mexico, for starters. Lowered caps on the number of asylum seeker cases we'd hear on an annual basis. He made proclamations during the primary such along the lines of the border will be open and raised his hand, along with every other candidate on stage when asked if they'd provide free health care for illlegal immigrants. The message was clear and the results entirely predictable. The conditions in the detention centers are far worse than under Trump and we have over 10,000 people living in horrific conditions under a bridge by the Rio Grande. We have a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions created by the Biden administration and the only thing progressives care about are border agents engaging in a modicum of deterrence. Heck, they don't even know the difference between whips and reins.

It to mention preventing media access to detention centers to now stopping the media from using drones to take footage of the human catastrophe along the Rio Grande.

#106 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 08:28 AM | Reply

This is border patrol agents' dream come true. Their fantasies of being able to whip brown people are finally being realized.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-21 06:58 PM

Dear SpeakSoftly,

It is even better than you think. The courageous Border Agents on their horses are whipping Black people who speak only French, and not English!

Best,

John47

#107 | Posted by john47 at 2021-09-22 08:30 AM | Reply

Since the flow has been unabated Biden's pressure relief valve has been to move unlawful entrants, mostly untested for COVID into various parts of the country. One might think THAT would upset vax-obsessed progressives. But it doesn't.

#108 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 08:45 AM | Reply

You'd almost think it would get unvaxed Dixieloons to ... oh, no, of course not, fuhgedaboudit.

#109 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-22 08:58 AM | Reply

#109 one is a bunch of individual persons making a bad health decision. The other is an administrative policy that created an ongoing human catastrophe.

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 09:06 AM | Reply

Well damn. Whipping Haitians is not on my Biden Bingo Card.

#111 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 09:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

But it's in the chip a lot of BPers carry around on their shoulders.

#112 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-22 09:25 AM | Reply

Questions.

Did Biden or Harris order the guards to do such things?
Is there any time when Biden or Harris indicated those kinds of measures would take place as part of their policy?

Are border guards, sovereign individuals perfectly capable of doing stupid things without the permission of POTUS?


Trumptidumpted discussed using lethal measures to thwart border crossings... not Biden.

The first year of any presidency has hangovers from the previous administration. This is why Trumptidumped did so well coming in after Obama. We all know what Obama inherited... Cl0wns can't deny that.

You don't get to blame Biden and the entire world knows it.

#113 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-09-22 10:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They're not "hangovers". They're professional law enforcement officers ordered to control migrant traffic.

and we Democrats own this one. We're seen, erroneously, as a party of open borders and that comes with an influx of migrants. The left wing of the party is mad that the borders aren't open enough and Biden is behaving like Trump-lite on the border.

#114 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 10:29 AM | Reply

They're not "hangovers". They're professional law enforcement officers ordered to control migrant traffic.

Yeah. About that word "professional" - not so much. They're -------- with badges. Like too many "law enforcement officers."

Time to start firing some of these asshats. Get BP to heel.

This isn't happening because Biden changed the border policy or opened up the borders. That's --------.

#115 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-22 10:46 AM | Reply

So Biden opened the borders yet border agents attempting a modicum of deterrence is the problem?

That is insane.

Like I said, no concerns at all about a humanitarian crisis that includes a massive increase in human and sex trafficking but a picture that elicits an emotional narrative and progressives are hell bent on going after LEO. Again. The only time progressives EVER support the police is when they shoot an unarmed Trump supporter.

#116 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 11:06 AM | Reply

No, Biden didn't open any border. Biden got elected, which signaled that the border is open. It's not actually opened, as migrants find out the hard way.

#117 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 11:09 AM | Reply

#117. Parse it any way you wish. Biden's rhetoric and policy changes precipitated this.

#118 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 11:15 AM | Reply

Biden to migrants: "Don't Come."
Harris to migrants: "Don't Come."

Parse it any way you wish, but there is no rhetoric and the policy changes are so minimal as to be insignificant. It's Trump-Lite. You still get a wall, it's just in a place that makes sense now.

#119 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 11:26 AM | Reply

Meanwhile, the Texas Governor is building a wall of.. cars... where they aren't really needed, and because nobody has ever slid across the hood of a car before...

I've seen flailing to shore up collapsing approval before, but that one is darkly funny.

#120 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 11:28 AM | Reply

At least we know the police don't need those police vehicles lol.

#121 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 11:28 AM | Reply

#119 understand the difference between words and actions.

This is NOT Trump lite. Wall construction, it's effectiveness is certainly debatable, was immediately stopped. Remain in Mexico, which was very successful, was immediately reversed. Asylum caps were immediately and significantly raised. The result has been the biggest border surge in over two decades and before the election warnings were given that all of this would happen if Biden went forward with his border plans as promised. All of this was entirely predictable.

#122 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 11:39 AM | Reply

Never mind the constant push for mass amnesty, included in the massive spending bill being pushed, coupled with the promise of things like free health care ... massive carrots have been dangled. If you want to call this W Bush Lite, I'd agree with you. This sure as heck ain't Trump Lite.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 11:43 AM | Reply

This sure as heck ain't Trump Lite.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger

You can tell by the lack of confederate flags and klan hoods.

#124 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 12:42 PM | Reply

Not impressed by that. "New wall projects", those in areas where the effectiveness was non-existent, were stopped. In Hidalgo construction picked up last Spring. They just shorten the bollards a little and rename them to "guardrails". The "big increase" is a statistical lie, it's inline with slowly growing the ceiling that was there when Trump took office. It was Trump's right to do that, but using a temporary decrease that's out of line with the overall slow growth trend is a distortion of what the ceiling is. There's definitely bad messaging coming out of the Dem party. To much nuance becomes a bland mixed message of come here, but now that you're here, go away. It was that way before Biden and it'll be that way after him.

#125 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 12:53 PM | Reply

There's definitely bad messaging coming out of the Dem party.

#125 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You mean like saying that the recent covid spike is due to illegal immigrants?

Oh wait was that the dems?

#126 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 01:02 PM | Reply

Hey I saw this movie!

Wasn't it called "Planet of the Immigrants"?

They need to get some of those cool nets where they use two horses and catch the immigrants and scoop them up in the net.

#127 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-09-22 01:11 PM | Reply

"Telling illegals to come here for free stuff worsens it."

Nobody in the Biden administration is saying that, so, how do you propose we stop others from saying it?

#128 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-22 01:48 PM | Reply

Is there any fake news that Drudge lefties won't fall for?

#129 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-09-22 03:13 PM | Reply

Absolutely.
Next.

#130 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-22 03:52 PM | Reply

Seems like the ones that blame the prez. of the USA don't mention the earthquake or prez. assassination in haiti. People aren't just moving because they saw it on TV- That is just the dummies here.

#131 | Posted by Brennnn at 2021-09-22 04:26 PM | Reply

Is there any fake news that Drudge lefties won't fall for?

#129 | Posted by visitor_

Lefties believe their eyes.

Righties believe their cult leader.

"Largest inauguration in history":
www.theshimmeringostrich.com

#132 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 04:27 PM | Reply

Lefties believe their eyes? Do you believe the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were real too?

#133 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-09-22 04:36 PM | Reply

Jurassic Park wasn't real at all.

#134 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-22 05:05 PM | Reply

Do Conservatives believe dinosaurs are real, or were those bones put there by Satan to trick us?

#135 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-22 05:07 PM | Reply

Lefties believe their eyes? Do you believe the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were real too?

#133 | Posted by visitor_

Lefties know the difference between movies and real life.

Your cult wants to govern based on ancient mythology.

#136 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 05:19 PM | Reply

I was joking around with a hard-core Republican the other day and the border situation came up. I asked him what he thought a good solution would be, and he sarcastically described in detail a series of towers along the border that had sniper and machine gun turrets for BP to just lay any illegal to waste even before they step foot over the border. I gave him, and still give him, the benefit of the doubt that he was legitimately sarcastic.

But considering the conversation devolving here, I'm not so sure anymore.

#137 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-09-22 05:52 PM | Reply

Do Conservatives believe dinosaurs are real, or were those bones put there by Satan to trick us?

#135 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-09-22 05:07 PM | REPLY

There's a lot more natural history museums than Creationist ones in Red States, so we've got that going for us at least.

#138 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 06:04 PM | Reply

Speak,

Is there a topic critical of your cult leaders in existence that you won't try to lamely circle back to Trump?

You are such a one trick pony.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 06:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Biden to migrants: "Don't Come."
Harris to migrants: "Don't Come."

That's what she said.

#140 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-09-22 06:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Anything short of murdering humans for being in America without the proper documentation isn't enough for Trumpers.

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-22 07:20 PM | Reply

The Cavenaugh News Network actually went with whips. Dude, those are reins. You shake them when someone gets too close to your horse. There's no way to crop those photos now, CNN.

#142 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-09-22 07:25 PM | Reply

Nothing like the libbie 'major media' creating phony story taking a picture out of context to take the public's attention off the fact the this pathetic administration MURDERED civilians [including seven children] by drone strike - good one.....

#143 | Posted by MSgt at 2021-09-22 07:32 PM | Reply

Every presidential administration in the 21st century MURDERED civilians [including seven children] by drone strike - good one.....
#143 | POSTED BY MSGT

Fixed that for you. Interesting to see you become a sudden peacenik, msgt.

#144 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-09-22 07:34 PM | Reply

The Cavenaugh News Network actually went with whips. Dude, those are reins. You shake them when someone gets too close to your horse. There's no way to crop those photos now, CNN.

#142 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2021-09-22 07:25 PM | FLAG:

If I whip you with it, it's a whip.

#145 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-22 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Speak,

Is there a topic critical of your cult leaders in existence that you won't try to lamely circle back to Trump?

You are such a one trick pony.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger

Your fascist cult is the root of almost every problem we face. Trump is the leader of your fascist cult.

Don't whine about blame being placed where it is deserved.

#146 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 08:37 PM | Reply

this pathetic administration MURDERED civilians [including seven children] by drone strike - good one.....

#143 | Posted by MSgt

Oh my gosh! That's almost 1/100,000 as many people as trump's administration killed.

So of course your 100,000 times more upset about that right? Since the loss of life is so upsetting to you...

#147 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 08:39 PM | Reply

The Cavenaugh News Network actually went with whips. Dude, those are reins. You shake them when someone gets too close to your horse. There's no way to crop those photos now, CNN.

#142 | Posted by HeliumRat

The "that's not an insurrection" cult is now the "that's not a whip" cult.

#148 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 08:39 PM | Reply

4149 - you are 100% correct. No matter what you say, speaksoftly responds with, "But Trump!"

However, never bring up her people or she screams "WHATABOUTISM!" every time.

The one trick pony actually has another: It's called hypocrisy and double standards.

#149 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 08:43 PM | Reply

#149 | Posted by jakester

You're going to have to unplonk me if you want my attention loser.

Or maybe I should just get another username like you have to do over ...and over...and over again.

#150 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-22 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#146

Your cult leaders own this human catastrophe.

You are one excuse driven sot.

#151 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-09-22 10:00 PM | Reply

Maxine Waters: "We are following the Trump policy. He is the one that does not follow the Constitution, and would not allow those seeking refuge to be able to petition to get into the country. What the hell are we doing here? What we witnessed takes us back hundreds of years. What we witnessed was worse than what we witnessed in slavery. Cowboys with their reins, again, whipping Black people " Haitians " into the water where they're scrambling and falling down. All they're trying to do is escape from violence in their country."

Thanks Maxine. We haven't had a good circular firing squad in at least 3 days.

#152 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-09-23 08:15 AM | Reply

#152 - I knew Maxine was old, but I had no idea she witnessed slavery.

#153 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-23 08:18 AM | Reply

#152 - I knew Maxine was old, but I had no idea she witnessed slavery.

#153 | Posted by jakester

Liberals have this ability to believe in things that they didn't see. Like viruses.

Your cult things if they can't see a gun pointed in their face there's nothing to fear. Except minorities and democracy.

#154 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-23 12:34 PM | Reply

The linguists who wanted to argue over the definition of INSURRECTION now want to argue over the definition of WHIPS.

#19 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-09-21 07:21 PM | REPLY

I saw Maxine Waters press conference yesterday, she was under an umbrella and the left would say it was the wind, but the umbrella hit a white reporter. She was obviously using it as a whip to beat the reporter simply because he was white. This is outragious and needs to be fully investigated.

#155 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-09-23 12:36 PM | Reply

So does your dubious paternity.

#156 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-23 12:41 PM | Reply

Can someone please explain the rules to me???

From what I've learned on DR over the last 20 years....

When a R is POTUS, everything that happens (no matter how minor) is the fault of the R President.

When a D is POTUS, everything that happens (no matter how minor) is the fault of the previous R President.

#157 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2021-09-23 01:44 PM | Reply

The last couple of times I walked into Mexico & back, there were lots of Haitians hanging around the crossing point. Not thousands, of course, but a fair number just hanging around on the street. Mexicali is cool!

#158 | Posted by Karabekian at 2021-09-23 01:49 PM | Reply

What a country.

Some people claim it's a racist hellhole yet we have people from all over the world trying to come hear and not Cuba.

FTR using a whip on illegals remains immoral.

#159 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-23 03:02 PM | Reply

Whips were not used on the refugees. Even the photographer who took that picture said he never saw whips. The thing confused for a whip is a reain.

www.news4jax.com

#160 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-23 03:20 PM | Reply

Reins. Yes.

Whipping these people was immoral. I don't care what you used to do it with. They were whipped.

#161 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-23 03:27 PM | Reply

Whips were not used on the refugees. Even the photographer who took that picture said he never saw whips. The thing confused for a whip is a reain.

www.news4jax.com

#160 | Posted by jakester a

Funny how the same people who now want to argue about the definition of WHIPS, a couple months ago wanted to argue about the definition of "insurrection". A couple months before that wanted to argue about the definition of "quid pro quo".

Your entire cult clings to semantics to pretend they're not evil traitors.

#162 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-23 03:32 PM | Reply

^

Who is confused?

When you got a whipping out behind the woodshed, it wasn't done with a whip, stupid

It' was still a whooping regardless if it was a switch, a belt, a "lasso" as you ignorantly called a lariat, or even some leather reins

You are so ding stupid

#163 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2021-09-23 03:35 PM | Reply

163 Pop used his belt on my behind. It made an impression.

#164 | Posted by Karabekian at 2021-09-23 03:39 PM | Reply

#163 - "Who is confused"

You are. You apparently don't know the difference between the verb whip and the noun whip.

I said no whips were used (as the headline indicates) I was correct.

But you in your obsession with me got triggered and go on this rampage about being whipped, something I did not mention. You are the confused one.

"You are so ding stupid"

Perhaps. But at least I understand the fundamentals of the English language like the difference between a noun and a verb. You do not. I suggest you engage in some serious introspection before you call someone stupid.

Get a life. chieftutmoses.

whip

noun

1. a strip of leather or length of cord fastened to a handle, used for flogging or beating a person or for urging on an animal.

#165 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-23 04:07 PM | Reply

It left an impression too.

#166 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-23 04:37 PM | Reply

whip

noun

1. a strip of leather or length of cord fastened to a handle, used for flogging or beating a person or for urging on an animal.

#165 | Posted by jakester

Therefore by your own definition, horse reins become whips when used to beat a person.

Now that you've defeated yourself, maybe it's time to stop hiding behind semantics.

#167 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-09-23 05:08 PM | Reply

maybe it's time to stop hiding behind semantics.

You might as well ask him to stop breathing and drop dead.

#168 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-23 05:11 PM | Reply

Jakester, please stop breathing and drop dead. Thank you.

(did it work?)

#169 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-23 06:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Jakester?

#170 | Posted by YAV at 2021-09-24 08:13 AM | Reply

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