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... Depression Since Prozac In the Hopkins study, published last year in JAMA Psychiatry, the therapy was four times more effective than traditional antidepressants. Two-thirds of participants showed a more-than 50-percent reduction in depression symptoms after one week; a month later, more than half were considered in remission, meaning they no longer qualified as being depressed.



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I knew I should have published my alternate psych thesis on psilocybin, Carlos Castaneda, and depression therapy back in college.


#1 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-22 08:50 PM | Reply

"This repetitive, unproductive thinking, or "faux problem solving," is known in the field of psychiatry as "rumination."

According to Harvard's Rosenbaum, rumination plays a key role in mental health conditions like depression, addiction and obsessive-compulsive disorder, or OCD.

For Presley, the psilocybin experience caused his unhelpful rumination to cease. It knocked the critical, domineering voice in his head off-line. He glimpsed a level of self-acceptance and a sense of agency in his own life that he did not know was possible.

Charles Raison, a psychiatrist from the University of Wisconsin-Madison who specializes in depression, explains such experiences in Freudian terms. With the ego knocked offline, Freud's unconscious is given free rein to express itself, often revealing inner truths and deep insights that those taking the drugs might normally be blind to.

"The idea psychedelics liberate some of these powerfully valent, deeper emotional areas of the brain"the limbic areas involved in memory and emotion"to have their say is consistent with what people are reporting," says Raison, who also serves as director of clinical and translational research for Usona Institute, a nonprofit that is leading a clinical trial of psilocybin.

"They are often overcome by these really, really powerful emotions that are surprising, as if they're coming from the outside but yet seem completely credible and utterly believable. These areas are liberated and get their day in court."

None of this, however, explains perhaps the most enduring mystery of these drugs"what Raison calls "the holy grail," and others have referred to as the "black box" or the "hand wave" in our current scientific understanding.

Many brain disorders are defined by a "narrowed mental and behavioral repertoire" that confines those who suffer from them to "suboptimal patterns" they cannot break out of," says Matthew Johnson, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Johns Hopkins and one of the coauthors of the depression study Aaron Presley participated in.

These "suboptimal patterns" manifest as behaviors, such as ruminative thinking and a reflexive expectation that things will go badly, and they also manifest physically in abnormal brain activity.

Many mental health disorders are characterized by aberrant brain activity, in which populations of specialized neurons, known as circuits, get stuck in rigid communication patterns and lose the ability to communicate effectively with other brain circuits. The brain loses the flexibility and the nimbleness that would allow it to respond to and interpret new situations and react accordingly. We become sick."

lots more about the way they think it werks at the link

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-22 09:00 PM | Reply

Is this the article you're citing?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-22 09:13 PM | Reply

#1 - Carlos Castenada was into mescaline (peyote), not psilocybin

#4 | Posted by jakester at 2021-09-22 09:14 PM | Reply

Where can I get some of these 'srooms? I need a ruminative reset pronto!!

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-09-22 09:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OOPS! Here's the thread link:

- not psilocybin

Yes, psilocybin, too.

"Don Juan decides to make Castaneda his apprentice and teach him the ways of a "man of knowledge." This consists mainly of giving cryptic answers to Castaneda's naive questions and instructing him in the use of hallucinogenic plants " peyote, jimsonweed, and a mushroom possibly containing psilocybin."

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-22 09:35 PM | Reply

I fixed the link.

When I need a little self care I prefer licking toads.

#7 | Posted by rcade at 2021-09-22 10:58 PM | Reply

Thanks! Sorry! Thanks!

- licking toads.

Dangerous in Texas... horny toads!

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-23 12:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Even conservative Psychologist Jordan Peterson advocates the usage of magic mushrooms for medicinal purposes.

BTW The Rick Strassman studies on DMT were done at UNM/Albuquerque between 1990-1995, not Austin.

#9 | Posted by shane at 2021-09-23 01:10 PM | Reply

How to Change Your Mind - Michael Pollan (Non-fiction)

Outside Looking In - T.C. Boyle (fiction)

Island - Aldous Huxley (fiction)

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-23 06:12 PM | Reply

I always felt refreshed and renewed after taking psychedelics..

It was like getting an outside view of your life... just go easy or you turn into a zombie

#11 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-09-23 06:30 PM | Reply

The UK's biggest ever online test into stress, undertaken by the BBC's Lab UK and the University of Liverpool, has revealed that rumination is the biggest predictor of the most common mental health problems in the country.

A bit of self-reflection can be a good thing, say psychologists. But just how serious can it get when introspection goes awry and thoughts get stuck on repeat, playing over and over in the mind?

The findings of a ground-breaking study, published in the journal PLOS ONE today, suggest that brooding too much on negative events is the biggest predictor of depression and anxiety and determines the level of stress people experience. The research even suggests a person's psychological response is a more important factor than what has actually happened to them.


9 Strategies for Overcoming Overthinking
Mental health professionals have suggestions for reducing rumination.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2021-09-23 06:41 PM | Reply

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