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Thursday, September 30, 2021

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is in a virtual tie with former President Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, according to a new poll.

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Now, Bolton's poll did use a narrower "likely voter" model, and the former Trumper-turned-critic has made it his mission to get in Trump's head, but these results represent a whopping 20-point drop in support for Trump since Bolton's last poll, in which 46 percent supported Trump. DeSantis was runner-up then, too, at just 13 percent.

And the poll also comes on the heels of another survey in which 61 percent of Republicans said they want Trump to either face a primary challenge in 2024 " or not to run at all.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-30 09:34 AM | Reply

Bad news for the guv.
Sad!

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-30 09:36 AM | Reply

If these polls are correct then Trump has the shortest career as king-maker yet,

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2021-09-30 09:59 AM | Reply

My issue with this is that it's not a good thing.

This means Trumpism has metastasized beyond Trump. It's beyond a cult of personality and has become a genuinely dangerous, reckless set of behaviors and ideas that will not only attract the crazies but will require them to out crazy each other to get elected.

We may have exited the spiraling around the drain phase and begun the being flushed phase.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2021-09-30 10:21 AM | Reply

Related...

Wall Street Helps Ron DeSantis Amass a Hefty War Chest for 2022www.bloomberg.com

...When it comes to the likely Republican presidential candidates in 2024, Wall Street's money is on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis -- not former President Donald Trump, who's been teasing another run at the White House.

A fifth of the $55 million that DeSantis has raised this year came from hedge fund billionaires, private equity bankers, investment managers, and other finance industry donors. Trump, who got less than 2% of his 2020 reelection funds from Wall Street, has raised the bulk of his $100 million war chest from small-dollar donors.

"Ron DeSantis is my favorite man," says Thomas Peterffy, 76, the billionaire chairman of Greenwich, Conn.-based Interactive Brokers, who gave $250,000 to DeSantis's political action committee in April. Although he donated hundreds of thousands to Trump in 2016 and 2017, he says he would rather the former president sit out 2024. Compared with the impulsive Trump, DeSantis "does much more substantial planning," Peterffy says. "He thinks about how he wants to implement things. He gives himself time to think it through."

DeSantis, 43, is a veritable money magnet for superrich donors in finance, according to records from the Florida Division of Elections. Citadel's billionaire owner Ken Griffin tops the list, with a $5 million gift to DeSantis's PAC made on April 30. Other hedge fund and private equity heavies who've made donations include Tudor Management's Paul Tudor Jones II ( $400,000) and buyout pioneer John Childs ($250,000). All three have homes in Florida, while other donors, such as Peterffy and former U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross, live in the state most of the year.

"I think the Wall Street guys love that Governor DeSantis has guts and was willing to keep Florida open, to keep the economy going in our state," says Nick Iarossi, a lobbyist in Tallahassee authorized by the governor to speak about fundraising. DeSantis has reached national prominence by pushing back on pandemic shutdowns and mask mandates.

Notably, the cash influx peaked in the early part of this year, before the delta variant sent deaths soaring in the Sunshine State, undermining DeSantis's case for laissez-faire public-health policies. Florida's cumulative death rate from Covid-19 has gone from average to the 10th worst in the nation. About 30% of Florida's 54,063 Covid-19 deaths have been reported since July 1. The governor initially downplayed the delta surge as media "hysteria."...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-30 10:58 AM | Reply

Competition among top Republicans depends on how high the death toll is from their leadership. So far, Trump leads but DeathSantis is catching up.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2021-09-30 11:01 AM | Reply

A fifth of the $55 million that DeSantis has raised this year came from hedge fund billionaires, private equity bankers, investment managers, and other finance industry donors. Trump, who got less than 2% of his 2020 reelection funds from Wall Street, has raised the bulk of his $100 million war chest from small-dollar donors.

And yet the righty base will dutifully parrot talking points that DeSantis is for the little guy and is looking out for their best interests.

35% of our populace is too stupid to live were it not for society floating their useless asses.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2021-09-30 12:07 PM | Reply

It's beyond a cult of personality and has become a genuinely dangerous, reckless set of behaviors and ideas that will not only attract the crazies but will require them to out crazy each other to get elected.

#4 | POSTED BY JPW

If there's a set of viable Republican rivals, there will first be an intra-party civil war that may well turn violent. Especially if Trump remains one of them.

Crazy has a huge down side.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2021-09-30 12:09 PM | Reply

Throw Liz Cheney into the mix and you get one ball buster of a Republican primary season.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-09-30 12:11 PM | Reply

Liz Cheney is a Democrat these days.

The Republican Party has become too batshht crazy for the Cheneys.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-09-30 12:16 PM | Reply

Liz Cheney is a right wing conservative. She merely has the integrity and patriotism to call out Trump for the lying slime-ball he is.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-09-30 12:24 PM | Reply

@#4 ... It's beyond a cult of personality and has become a genuinely dangerous, reckless set of behaviors and ideas that will not only attract the crazies but will require them to out crazy each other to get elected. ...

This is one aspect I was thinking of when I noted back in the summer of 2016 that candidate Trump may be creating a monster that he will not be able to control.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-30 12:30 PM | Reply

@#10 ... Liz Cheney is a Democrat these days. ...

I wouldn't say she is a Democrat.

... The Republican Party has become too batshht crazy for the Cheneys. ...

I'd say Rep Cheney is more like an Independent.


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-30 12:31 PM | Reply

No. Cheney is not a moderate or an Independent. She is a far right wing Republican. Let's not sugar-coat just how far to the right she is. And let's not confuse the fact that she has the integrity to call out Trump as a liar and a seditionist as somehow meaning that she is in any way liberal or even moderate.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-09-30 12:47 PM | Reply

@#14 ... No. Cheney is not a moderate or an Independent. She is a far right wing Republican. Let's not sugar-coat just how far to the right she is. ...

I'm not trying to sugar-coat anything.

I agree with your sentiment, if you say "old school far right-wing Republican."

She bears little resemblance to the current far right-wing Republicans for the reason you cite, and it is an important reason, her integrity to put the rule of law above fealty to fmr Pres Trump.

I do not think the current Republican Party is the old Republican Party (in this context, I use "old" as mainly pre-Trump, maybe even pre-Tea Party).


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-30 01:27 PM | Reply

"I do not think the current Republican Party is the old Republican Party (in this context, I use "old" as mainly pre-Trump, maybe even pre-Tea Party)."

I do and I don't.
Lee Atwater explained who they are in 1981.
Not all Republicans are racist, but all Republicans decided racism isn't a deal-breaker.
So to that extent, they haven't really changed their core values.

But, on the other hand, politically moderate Republican elected officials have been primaried relentlessly by the extremists who fund the GOP. Hunted down like Anne Frank.

What I'm saying is the Republican base is as racist and xenophobic as it's ever been. The difference is that they don't try to portray themselves as compassionate conservatives any more.

They never were compassionate conservatives, but now they don't even pretend to be. And this has helped some of the very far right join the party. Like all of those people who eschewed politics their adult lives, until Trump came along. These are the kinds of people who have their "Trump 2020: No More --------" flag still up.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-09-30 01:38 PM | Reply

Funny, I thought he was all Bulls#it.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-30 01:40 PM | Reply

@#16 ... What I'm saying is the Republican base is as racist and xenophobic as it's ever been. The difference is that they don't try to portray themselves as compassionate conservatives any more. ...

If you toss in a bit of "unable to behave appropriately in public" describing the current Republicans, I'd mostly agree.

#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-09-30 01:46 PM | Reply

"I should be president because I killed thousands!"
"I should be president because I killed hundreds of thousands!"

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-09-30 02:55 PM | Reply

#19
Exactamente

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-09-30 05:06 PM | Reply

There biggest accomplishments are how many people they let die as a result of criminal negligence.

#21 | Posted by Tor at 2021-09-30 07:16 PM | Reply

So, all the GOP has now are incompetent jerks... How is this news?

#22 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-09-30 09:32 PM | Reply

Oooooooh, DeathSentence is going to be the subject of some really mean "Statements From The Office of the 45th President." Fight, fight, fight, you're all scum!

#23 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-01 06:19 PM | Reply

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