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Monday, October 04, 2021

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told President Joe Biden he should pressure Democratic leaders in Congress to go ahead and raise the debt limit on their own because the GOP won't cooperate.

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Dems raised trump's debt ceiling twice because they're not willing to hurt americans to punish their enemies.

Repubs take the first chance to raise biden's debt ceiling and use it to try and crash the economy for no reason other than they think people will vote republican if repubs can make them suffer under a democrat president.

And still morons around here say the parties are the same and both parties are the problem.

#1 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-04 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is a surprise?

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-10-04 06:45 PM | Reply

But watch the lame dems cooperate with them.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-10-04 06:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It would have been nice if Bloomberg had reached out to McConnel for a direct quote and explanation of his position but apparently that is too much work for a publication playing the role of journalism.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-04 06:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#4 | Posted by BellRinger

It would be nice if you weren't a brain dead partisan POS, but here we are.

#5 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 07:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

GOP won't cooperate on... anything.

#6 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2021-10-04 07:03 PM | Reply

Republicans want the United States to default.

Their internal polling data has convinced them they can make it an albatross around Hunter Biden's neck.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 07:05 PM | Reply

Wow. You really zinged me, Billy Boy.

Asking journalists to actually engage in journalism as opposed to activism is the furthest thing from being a partisan hack.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-04 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It would have been nice if Bloomberg had reached out to McConnel for a direct quote and explanation of his position but apparently that is too much work for a publication playing the role of journalism.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger

Or you could just google it. Mcconnel says he wont avert unnecessary disaster because during W bush dems did the same thing. Totally ignoring that dems raised it twice for trump.

So basically - for no reason at all.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-04 07:43 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

#10 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 07:48 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh, sorry - I don't need to "zing" you. Everything you post is partisan BS. You do it to yourself.

Moron.

#11 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 there is nothing partisan about expecting journalists to engage in journalism. Idiot.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-04 08:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The only other country in the world with a debt ceiling is Denmark.
It was created in the US as a political ploy for horse trading and re-election campaign content, nothing more.

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-04 08:14 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

#14 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 08:23 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh wait, you seriously think you know what you're talking about.

It just gets better and better!

Do please expound upon your idea of what wanting "journalists to engage in journalism" means.

Try not to make yourself look any more partisan than you have already.

We're waiting...

#15 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 08:27 PM | Reply

Burn, baby, burn. Crash the economy, default on ancient debts, force the world to adopt a different international currentcy.

This will hasten America's return to normal nation status, kind of like Britain's.

I can't wait, self inflicted decline is the best way to remove the horror of Imperialism.

Britain showed us the way, and we are following their playbook.

Irrelevence is our fate and it's all for the best. LOL.

I just hope we don't lob nukes on the way down.

#16 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-04 08:35 PM | Reply

#15, it is advocacy journalism. Cherry-picked quotes from a letter written and no attempt made to reach out to McConnell for clarification or context. The pathetic thing is had they actually reached out to him he likely wouldn't have a defensible answer for his tack because he's a political whore. That they didn't reach out is the journalistic failure here. That is what I'm criticizing and it's because our news media mostly sucks ass.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-04 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That is what I'm criticizing and it's because our news media mostly sucks ass."

#17 | Posted by BellRinger

I cannot in all honesty argue that point, as you are correct.

I don't have a realistic solution.

Do you?

#18 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 08:51 PM | Reply

#18. Unfortunately I don't.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-04 08:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#19 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah. I'm done for now.

#20 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 08:58 PM | Reply

"That is what I'm criticizing and it's because our news media mostly sucks ass."

When was it better, when they were sending uncentred film back from Vietnam? The military put a stop to that. Got the journalists to "embed."

It wasn't our media that figured out we droned those kids. It could have been, but that would have been bad for business.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:33 PM | Reply

maybe you liked Walter Cronkite?

Here's what Conservapedia has to say about Walter Cronkite:
Widely regarded as authoritative, he was known as "Uncle Walter". Unfortunately, he was a liberal-progressive and failed to see the threat of international Communism. Worse, he if anything advocated for Communism, even admitting he wanted a democratic federal world government and was willing to sit on the hand of Satan to get it.

And here's what AIM has to say about Walter Cronkite:
it is an insult to the intelligence of the American people to pretend that Walter Cronkite was the "voice of God" and "universally credible," as Mara Liasson put it on Fox News Sunday. The terrible truth is that Walter Cronkite symbolized liberal media bias and used that bias with disastrous consequences for our nation and the world. His latest cause was world government and the destruction of American sovereignty.

If the problem with our news media is we don't have a Walter Cronkite, the reason we don't have a Walter Cronkite is Republicans won't allow it.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That they didn't reach out is the journalistic failure here."

Oh I get it.
What you're saying is:
"It wasn't properly predicated."

You don't disagree with anything in the article.
You disagree with the way the article was written, and use this as a launching pad to assault the
Liberal Media.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:45 PM | Reply

#15, it is advocacy journalism.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger

A trump supporter whining about advocacy journalism. I love it. If if weren't for advocacy journalism your cult leader would have been impeached removed and in jail.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-04 09:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here's the Washington Post take on it:

"Biden's comments came shortly after McConnell issued a fiery statement accusing Democrats in Congress of "sleepwalking toward significant and avoidable danger." In a letter to Biden, the GOP leader added that Republicans have made clear for months now that they would not support an increase to the debt ceiling, as part of their broader opposition to the president's roughly $4 trillion economic agenda. Instead, McConnell called on Democrats to address the issue on their own."

"For two and a half months, we have simply warned that since your party wishes to govern alone, it must handle the debt limit alone as well," he said.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com

That's really what you're saying is wrong here, that Bloomberg didn't re-confirm what the Republicans have been saying for weeks now?

What a joke you are.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:50 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by snoofy

OK.

How do we fix it.

Be realistic, because everyone is pointing fingers and not offering solutions.

Cthulhu knows my solution wouldn't sit well with most people.

You're not going to be able to force a solution without massive bloodshed.

Education and inclusion seems to be the best approach...

So how?

#26 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 09:51 PM | Reply

"You're not going to be able to force a solution without massive bloodshed."

Keep shining light on the cockroaches is really the best I can suggest.

And, keep calling them out, like we're calling out BellRinger here. Do not give them a safe harbor for their propaganda. We can't always shut them down, but we have a duty to challenge their lies.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:56 PM | Reply

"forcing massive bloodshed."

COVID-19 is forcing massive bloodshed.
I do think it's helping sane people figure out what the Republicans are all about.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 09:58 PM | Reply

"I can't wait, self inflicted decline is the best way to remove the horror of Imperialism."

Britain sucks now, and they have their own herd of incredibly stupid Trumpers over there, who actually voted to leave the EU and shoot themselves in the foot economically in the name of "Freedom" and "Independence."

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 10:00 PM | Reply

"Education and inclusion seems to be the best approach..."

Education of the ignorant.
Inclusion of the reasonable.

But we cannot tolerate the intolerant, or it will crowd out tolerance, a little bit at a time.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 10:08 PM | Reply

Settle down snoof, this is an anonymous message board and no one is quite what they seem.

:)

#31 | Posted by billy_boy at 2021-10-04 11:10 PM | Reply

Sure.

But, Deplorables are what they seem.

They've made that abundantly clear in my time here.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-04 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Considering that GQP Presidents have racked up the vast majority of the national debt, including a third of it added during the Drumpf Error, this is pure hypocrisy by the GQP but why should anybody be surprised.

#33 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-05 01:06 AM | Reply

Britain no longer dominates and plunders vast expanses of the earth. Their much vaunted culture is seen as the parochial twaddle it always was.

How is this a bad thing? Millions of exploited people and their resources are no longer taken
by a nation of usurping swine.

Their cultural development is no longer thwarted for the economic gain of -------- they never wanted in their midst to begin with.

For someone who rails so hard against Manifest Destiny and other historical obscenities,you sure seem nostalgic for Britain's past "glory".

Snoofy, are you the Tool you seem to be?

My guess is yes, a hypocrite, not for real about freedom unless "guided" by the West.

#34 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-05 01:34 AM | Reply

"Their internal polling data has convinced them they can make it an albatross around Hunter Biden's neck.
#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

You should not make jokes about things being around Hunter Biden's neck. When the police were called out when his girlfriend threw away his handgun, she stated that Hunter was threatening to harm himself. I don't like the guy, but mental illness is a serious subject.

#35 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-05 07:00 AM | Reply

Of course bellrung wants to focus on the media outlet while ignoring the broader point of the GOP scuttling our country in plain sight while claiming it's the Dems doing it.

Grow up moron(s).

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2021-10-05 09:38 AM | Reply

"And still morons around here say the parties are the same and both parties are the problem."

Seriously, you actually think doing one thing that might be for the benefit of the country after decades of doing many things that are for special interests means one party is full of saints? Reps have done things that benefit the country as well in between doing all the special interest things they do. So yes, in fact, this is actually just more concrete evidence both parties are the same.

And considering raising the debt ceiling does have negatives to the country, one could say it is debatable that raising it is actually in the best interest of our country. Come on, at least TRY to make your hate more justifiable. This is just a pathetic attempt.

Also, let's not forget McConnell is only following in Obama's footsteps by saying his party will not negotiate with the other party.

And also, let's not forget that Dems only raised the ceiling one of those times AFTER they had already let the government shut down.

I mean, the list goes on as to why your statement is just wrong in multiple ways. It's OK to learn from your mistakes and accept them. You probably won't but I'm just letting you know that it's OK. In fact, some consider learning from mistakes to be one of the best methods of learning for our brains.

#37 | Posted by humtake at 2021-10-05 10:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"And considering raising the debt ceiling does have negatives to the country, one could say it is debatable that raising it is actually in the best interest of our country. "

Blah blah blah ...

The Dems raised the Dept ceiling for Trumpy when he blew past it several times.

Trumptilians had no problem raising the debt ceiling for Trumpy and his giveaways. They had no problem increasing the debt by trillions of dollars with their tax giveaways and other giveaways to the wealthy (7.8 trillion to be more exact). They just can't stomach the poor minorities or disadvantaged or elderly getting any of that money.

And the Deplorables are just not responsible enough to pay it back either.

Apparently.

It's the Trumptilian way.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-10-05 12:34 PM | Reply

Seriously, you actually think doing one thing that might be for the benefit of the country after decades of doing many things that are for special interests means one party is full of saints?
#37 | Posted by humtake

No I think trying to wreck the economy for no reason means one party is full of sociopaths.

What exactly have republicans done to benefit the country? Vietnam? Iraq? Reaganomics? Pollution? Wall street deregulation? Becoming the cult of a con man? Covid denial? Attempting to end democracy?

Liberals have been proven right about: slavery, womens suffrage, civil rights, climate change, vietnam, the drug war, reaganomics, iraq, covid, wealth inequality, wall street regulation...

Name one thing conservatives have been proven right about. Are you going to go back to when republicans fought against slavery? Those weren't conservatives. At that time, republicans were the liberals. And the conservatives were the ones fighting to CONSERVE slavery.

So what have conservatives every been right about?

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-05 01:06 PM | Reply

*ever

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-05 01:27 PM | Reply

We can waste our energy despising McConnell all we want. He does not care. How clear does one person have to make it that he is first and foremost about the Republican Party?

#41 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-10-05 01:30 PM | Reply

"No I think trying to wreck the economy for no reason means one party is full of sociopaths."

Exactly.

It should clear by now clear that McConnell has no intention other than creating chaos and making life difficult for democrats and obstructing anything he can for the hope of partisan gain. Have they already forgot the things he has already done? The Trump Party apparently has no concern with the damage it may cause to the economy. As long as their calculations of partisan gain are met.

I just wish Democrats would stop forgetting that is who he is and he will never change.

The McConnell Doctrine is clearly Wait Delay and Instigate

Stop waiting for him.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-10-05 01:56 PM | Reply

McConnell is doing everything he can to force the dems to eliminate the filibuster but, because of Manchin and Sinema, they won't. What do the repubs have on Manchin and Sinema that makes them so loyal to repubs? I suspect Manchin's and Sinema's objections to passing the Biden agenda has more to do with increased taxes on their donors than with the programs to be funded.

Dems in the senate should hold a vote every day so that the repubs can vote against raising the debt ceiling. When the economy and the market tanks, Biden should have the mint produce a Trillion Dollar "commemorative" coin and sell it to the Fed so that the US Government can pay its bills.

#43 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2021-10-05 04:32 PM | Reply

"Yet ... Democrats did not launch a filibuster against the debt limit increase back then, because at that time it was common for lawmakers to vote yes on cloture and then against the underlying measure, which has become rare."

www.politico.com

Schumer's and Biden't votes are irrelevent because the DEms dod not prevent the debt limit from increasing. This is McConnell grandstanding over nothing. Fact is, the current problem does present a real problem for our economy while he threatens to prevent an increase in teh debt limit which, if he succeeded in doing that, woulk tank our economy. Republicans, under McConnell are just all to willing to risk our economy over partisan political opportunities to blame it on Democrats when, actually, it is the Republicans who seem willing to damage our economy in hopes that they can blame it on Biden and the Democrats. The real harm it will have for Americans doesn't seem to matter as much as their political gain by doing so. Despicable.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2021-10-05 06:07 PM | Reply

#37 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Somewhere a circus is missing a clown.

#45 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-05 06:14 PM | Reply

The national debt rose nearly $8 TRILLION during Trump's four years.

Thanks to more Republican tax cuts, the annual deficit rose exponentially from the $500 billion Obama got it down to from the $1.4 trillion Bush & Co left behind thanks to their tax cuts and unfunded wars and programs.

Republicans increase debt like madmen, then blame everything else for their fiscal responsibility.

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-10-05 06:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I suppose McConnell could be convinced to do some political horse trading if only the Democrats would make the right offer.

It would be political suicide for McConnell to make a public demand himself . . . not to mention a sure-fire admission of guilt for certain members of the GOP in the January 6 attempted coup AND, once thoroughly exploited, a loss of seats in both the House and Senate 2022 and possibly only a Hail Mary stab at the Oval Office in 2024.

The offer I'm talking about is for the House Select Committee to quietly agree to softball their accusations against the GOP suspects in exchange for McConnell's agreement to vote for raising the debt limit.

McConnell might not be grandstanding for nothing. He only has one ace in the hole and that's to force the Biden Administration to lay off prosecuting GOP participants in the January 6 coup attempt in exchange for saving the country from going into default.

I don't see where either side holds the upper hand right now. What I'm suggesting is dirty politics at its finest to break a stalemate.

#47 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-10-06 02:06 AM | Reply

Past time to Nuke the Filibuster,
and don't take 'No' for an answer anymore.

We always knew this would happen.
That 'Mitch the ----' would do anything
to derail. That is his apparent function
in life (which has me rooting he gets a
good case of Covid, either that or terminal
---- rot). The man is a cancer on American
Society.

#48 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-06 08:44 AM | Reply

GQP presidents rack up massive debt on the national credit card, then the dash when the bill comes due. Simply disgusting hypocrisy. The only two presidents in my adult lifetime, which dates back to Reagan, who shrank the deficit were Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. The vast majority of the national debt was accrued during RepubliCON presidencies.

#49 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-06 04:41 PM | Reply

GUNSLINGER @ #49

Re: Republicans

That reminds me.

"Deficits don't matter" was one of Dick Cheney's most memorable quotes.

#50 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-10-06 04:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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