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Tuesday, October 05, 2021

Game of Thrones fans have finally got a first look at the much-anticipated prequel series House of the Dragon with its first teaser trailer voiced by Matt Smith. The HBO Max series is set 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones and tells the story of House Targaryen and the Targaryen civil war known as the "Dance of the Dragons."

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-05 02:24 PM | Reply

Trailer didn't show much, imo.
But it looks good

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-05 02:38 PM | Reply

Seems like there is some controversy about Matt Smith playing Daemon Targaryen

screenrant.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-05 02:57 PM | Reply

"Seems like there is some controversy about Matt Smith playing Daemon Targaryen"

I don't see what the controversy is. Sounds like some are complaining because he's not a natural blond. Sheesh.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-05 10:02 PM | Reply

IMO, the best two characters in Game of Thrones were The Hound and Joffrey Baratheon. Ramsay Bolton was extremely well acted but one dimensional. I hope the character arcs are better developed in this new series than they were the final three seasons of GOT.

#5 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-05 11:13 PM | Reply

- Sheesh.

I know, right? He's an actor, for F's sake.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-05 11:51 PM | Reply

I did not become a GoT fan until well after the series ended. I've never been a fan of dragon shows, so I avoided it. I started watching it on a slow, rainy weekend shortly after signing up for HBO Max and got HOOKED. I binged the entire series in less than a month. I can't believe how much I loved it, and how much I'm looking forward to this prequel. I tried listening to the GoT audio books, but I find fantasy and sci-fi are better read than listened to. My favorite characters were Arya Stark and Jorah Mormont. I was hoping for a sequel following Arya on her further adventures. As a series, it had the absolute best villians, characters with zero human decency who were easy to hate.

#7 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-06 04:06 PM | Reply

- Arya Stark and Jorah Mormont.

Mine were Arya and Brienne while reading the books. In the series, the actors chosen for the characters were all pretty spot on to me.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-06 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8

The casting of the show was phenomenal. When re-reading the books I have a hard time picturing the characters any way other than the characters in the show. That is really rare for me mostly the bad casting makes me try and picture the characters as described by the book in place of the actors when watching an adaptation.

#9 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-10-06 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

the Hound and Arya and Tyrion were my fave
characters...(the most interesting character arcs) it's too bad Martin will never live long enough to finish the book series at his current pace. He's basically given in to the movies over the books in my view...

If you love GoT as books, I would recommend
'The First Law' trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.
I find his wtiying more concise and just as good as Martin's (if not better)...

Now THERE is a series that I truly wish an HBO or someone would make into a series...

The 'Bloody Nine' on television...that would
be the -----!

#10 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-06 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 Seconded!

#11 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-06 10:12 PM | Reply

There was a graphic novel series (prequel) to game of thrones about a hedge knight. www.amazon.com

I was hoping it would be the next production.

#12 | Posted by mattm at 2021-10-06 10:16 PM | Reply

'The First Law' trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.

Thirded. Hell of a writer.

There's really quite a few fine writers in the fantasy genre today... Mark Lawrence, Brandon Sanderson, Scott Lynch, Patrick Rothfuss, Brent Weeks, Anthony Ryan, Jenn Lyons, Seth Dickinson, N.K. Jemisin....

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-07 01:56 AM | Reply

'The First Law' trilogy by Joe Abercrombie.

Never heard of it but with three here recommending it sounds like a winner.

Thanks always good to catch a new series. Now if I just had time to read.

#14 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-10-07 06:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just ordered all three so I don't forget it since it's my busy season. Probably won't get to start reading them till March but who knows when I have a pile of books on my nightstand they tend to have a siren call that makes me find time, even if it's traded for sleep.

#15 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-10-07 06:44 AM | Reply

#15 Have you considered audiobooks? I recall that you drive a lot for your work. I never got into audiobooks but many do enjoy them.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-07 11:29 AM | Reply

With audiobooks, it all comes down to the narrator.
Most are hum drum, just doing it for a paycheck.
A few, really get into the part and make it an enjoyable
experience.

#17 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-07 01:51 PM | Reply

"With audiobooks, it all comes down to the narrator."

The bride is a connoisseur; she agrees completely. Her faves are the Harry Potter books, narrated by Jim Dale.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-07 01:58 PM | Reply

Never much enjoyed audio books and even if I did there is no aux port, tape deck or CD player in my work vehicle. Trying to listen on my phone is a fools errand given background noise so I just drive and think my thoughts.

My wife and I listen to audio books to fall asleep at night but we only do books we have read so we don't stay up listening to the story.

In theory I am supposed to get an hour lunch each day and I carry around a book for when I do but 9 days out of 10 it doesn't happen.

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-10-07 04:52 PM | Reply

The bride is a connoisseur; she agrees completely. Her faves are the Harry Potter books, narrated by Jim Dale.

#18 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-07 01:58 PM | REPLY

I listen to audiobooks all the time and the narrator will make or break the book every time. The Harry Potter books were some of the best I've ever heard, Jim Dale was genius. I really enjoyed George Guidall's narration of the Dark Tower series, some didn't like him so much, but I thought he was great. I am less impressed by his work on the Mitch Rapp series of books. I also like a guy named Scott Brick who does a lot of spy/detective/Dean Koontz type novels. Richard Ferrone, who narrates the John Sandford Prey series, which are my favorite cop books, totally captures the vibe with his deep, resonant, deadpan type delivery.

I'll give the "First Law" trilogy a try, thanks for the tip!

#20 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-07 06:45 PM | Reply

It's a great read, the 1st Law Trilogy...

Some of the most memorable characters I've ever encountered, and I've heen reading fantasy and sci-fi since I was nine. NOBODY writes combat sequences better than Abercrombie. I do a bit of writing on the side, and I am constantly amazed when I read his work, that there are 'no wasted words'. He is the Hemmingway of brutal, in your face fantasy, of a similar vein as Martin. Enjoy!

#21 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-07 08:30 PM | Reply

...that there are 'no wasted words'.

So the opposite of Humtake, who is nothing but?

#22 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-10-07 08:47 PM | Reply

"I was hoping for a sequel following Arya on her further adventures."

Am I the only one who realizes Arya was killed off in season 6?

#23 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 09:12 PM | Reply

"Richard Ferrone, who narrates the John Sandford Prey series..."

What a scream. Richard's an old colleague of mine, a well-known pioneer in the field, and the most passionate promoter of Audiobooks I've ever met.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-07 09:37 PM | Reply

Debunking The 'Arya Died In Season 6' Theory

screenrant.com

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-07 10:57 PM | Reply

I love how the word "debunk" has become bastardized and misused as synonymous with "disputed with weak and/or fallacious counterarguments".

It's kind of like saying a person was "literally destroyed" after someone harshly insulted them.

I think the author of that article knows something like this can be neither proven nor disproven (which was likely the intention of the scriptwriters, IMO), and they're just bloviating.

#26 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 11:48 PM | Reply

- just bloviating.

An apt description of your post.

I also like how you managed to write so many words describing the author's argument with absolutely no counter-argument at all... well done!

I think that claiming Arya was killed off, then also claiming that this can be neither proven nor disproven is about as much walking back a claim that can be done without simply slapping your forehead and saying, "Ouch!"

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-08 12:24 AM | Reply

As usual, you completely missed the point. As did the blogger. Nothing she wrote actually "debunked" the idea which she acknowledged several times was "very interesting".

All of the so-called arguments she made are just as plausible if the real Arya was killed and had her identity assumed by "No one". For example, the Waif's face being hung up in the Hall of Faces could simply mean the assassin-spy no longer had a use for that face in the near future, now that she has Arya's.

#28 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-08 09:13 AM | Reply

Nothing you have written actually debunked her debunking... so even in your own opinion, you have that in common.

What she did note, since you have yet to actually address any of the points she made, is that, among several other salient points...

"After Arya killed the Waif, she put the girl's face in the Hall of Faces within the House of Black and White. Jaqen H'ghar proclaimed that she was no "No One," but she disagreed, stating that she was "Arya Stark of Winterfell." At the time, she intended to travel to King's Landing to kill Cersei, but after hearing that Jon retook Winterfell, Arya left her mission and went home to be with her family. This never would have affected the character if it was the Waif under Arya's skin."

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-08 10:45 AM | Reply

"This never would have affected the character if it was the Waif under Arya's skin."

The problem is you're assuming how it affected the character based on the assumption you and Miss Blogger made about which character walked out of that room in the "No One" episode. If her main mission was to impersonate Arya Stark in order to gather intelligence and be in a position to knock off and steal the faces of key figures when the Faceless Men needed it, then it makes sense that she would be flexible. Also, how do you know "the waif" didn't go through some character development after getting lost in the character she was impersonating?

Either way, we agree on one thing: "No one killed Arya Stark in Season 6." :-)

#30 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-08 04:15 PM | Reply

And still George R R Martin has not published the sequel to book 6 which allegedly has been in the works now for more than a decade. At the end of book 6 Jon Snow had just been killed. Since then... nothing. Meaning, as most of us fans know, the TV show just made up it's own story and ending without relying on the books after that point in the story.

#31 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-10-08 05:02 PM | Reply

George R R Martin has not published the sequel to book 6

I have so many friends waiting on it to come out. One is convinced it's done and GRRM is sitting on it.

He's never going to finish.

He's done with that story. Probably bored with it.

Supposedly, he gave his outline for the remaining books to the HBO writers and let them flesh it out.

He's dumb rich and has a ton of new shows to create and work on.

GoT season 1-5 were great. The decline in quality of writing for both dialogue and plot in 6-8 is drastic.

They should have waited for GRRM to finish his books. Regardless of whether he would have or not.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-08 05:13 PM | Reply

"They should have waited for GRRM to finish his books"

No way most of the cast and crew would have committed to that.

#33 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-08 05:16 PM | Reply

Plus.

They would have been dead or in their Middle Ages by then.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-08 05:19 PM | Reply

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