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Tuesday, October 05, 2021

With the original version of the virus that causes COVID-19, America's current vaccination rate of about 65% would have been enough to stop the spread.

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... the now-dominant delta strain is more than twice as contagious ...

Is the Coronavirus Getting Better at Airborne Transmission?
www.yahoo.com

..."This is not an Armageddon scenario," said Vincent Munster, a virus expert at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who led one of the new studies. "It is like a modification of the virus to more-efficient transmission, which is something I think we all kind of expected, and we now see it happening in real time."

Munster's team showed that small aerosols traveled much longer distances than larger droplets and the alpha variant was much more likely to cause new infections via aerosol transmission. The second study found that people infected with alpha exhaled about 43 times more virus into tiny aerosols than those infected with older variants.

The studies compared the alpha variant with the original virus or other older variants. But the results may also explain why the delta variant is so contagious == and why it displaced all other versions of the virus.

"It really indicates that the virus is evolving to become more efficient at transmitting through the air," said Linsey Marr, an expert in airborne viruses at Virginia Tech who was not involved in either study. "I wouldn't be surprised if, with delta, that factor were even higher."

The ultratransmissibility of the variants may come down to a mix of factors. It may be that lower doses of the variants are required for infection, or that the variants replicate faster, or that more of the variant virus is exhaled into aerosols -- or all three.

The alpha variant proved to be twice as transmissible as the original virus, and the delta variant has mutations that turbocharged its contagiousness even more. As the virus continues to change, newer variants may turn out to be even more transmissible, experts said....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-05 06:11 PM | Reply

It's endemic now, and will continue to specialize itself to be more successful at infecting the vaccinated. Just evolution. We either have to get used to getting boosters tweaked to the new variant a couple times a year, or develop a wholly better vaccine.

The vaccines were an amazing development, but I don't exactly trust Big Pharma to go for the latter when they can keep selling the former. My biggest hope at this point is in some of the articles about people who have had both vaccine and infection have something of a turbocharged immunity, in which case endemic or not, the virus might run into a wall once everyone has both had it and been vaccinated. Or Herman Cained their way out.

#2 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2021-10-05 06:34 PM | Reply

Here are two mirages : )
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#3 | Posted by MSgt at 2021-10-05 07:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by MSgt

Shut up, idiot.

You and your ilk are the problem.

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2021-10-05 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3

Typical Decepticon

#5 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-10-05 09:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 - WTF are you talking about???

Mirage was an Autobot.

#6 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-05 10:47 PM | Reply

"Inconclusive!" - MonkeyLove

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-05 11:49 PM | Reply

Sweden disagrees on the herd immunity comment.

#8 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-06 04:04 AM | Reply

We have the avility to basically wipe out the pandemic but it would take bilions of dollars and virtually 100% support from our populations. Since they won't support our attempts to wipe out the disease it will continue, it will continue to kill people but they will have their satisfaction from owning the libs. We need a worldwide vaccination program that could cost trillions of dollars but if we don't we will never end this pandemic. We spend trillions on defense from other nations but a disease, the COVID pandemic, is killing more of us than any enemy is. America likes to consider ourselves as the leaders of the world. Fine. Now step up to the plate and be the leader we have always claimed to be. Vaccinate the world and there will never be another doubt about who is the leader of the world. We cannot end the pandemic just by vaccinating all Americas, which isn't going to happen anyway because there are so many stupid people, but we needWe to make world vaccinations our goal. Anyting less will result in world catastrophe, we aan pretend there is another solution but, truthfully, there is not one. This is probably the biggest challenge ever faced by America but what other nation could or would take on the challenge of vaccinating the world? If we are the great nation we think we are then we need to get busy and do this. If we do this then our claim to be the greatest nation on Earth will never again be challenged. War is not the pat to greatness, perhaps vaccinations are though. Of all nations, we have the greatest capacity to produce vaccines so let's use our power to give it toe the world. That's real power, China will be looking like greedy, power hungry, evil fiends while America will, again, look like what we have always been. The power that saves the world from Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and now COVID. Probably it would be smart to take a large percantage of our defense budget and spend it on vaccinating the world. It would have far greater returns on investment than more bombs will.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2021-10-06 05:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 no they don't. They admitted their approach was wrong.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2021-10-06 08:41 AM | Reply

"As of 1 September 2021, 82.0% of adults in Sweden have received at least one dose, with a total of 12,700,896 administered."

If Republicans want to be like Sweden, there's a shot you can take.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-10-06 09:25 AM | Reply

Covid is helping with herd immunity to Fascism.

#12 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-06 10:20 AM | Reply

#8 | Posted by Skeptical

Sweden's been wrong a lot.

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-10-06 10:29 AM | Reply

"Sweden's been wrong a lot."

So has Skeptical.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-06 10:34 AM | Reply

#9 | Posted by danni

This! The problem that we have with achieving it mainly goes back to Social Media and in particular the Facebook platforms (Twitter isn't innocent...) and the fact that Hate is more profitable than anything else. Where did anti-vaxx get traction? Why did it make the transition to the Right-wing hate platforms? It starts with Social Media.

I am going to harp on Social Media going forward. Now that there is actual evidence that not only that their algorithms steer you toward hate but that they know it and choose to actively promote hate. It's been recognized by politicians globally. THIS IS WRONG.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2021-10-06 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hate gets clicks.
Clicks=money.
Money=power.
Hate=power.

All we have for hope is that the number of clicks is from a group that's smaller than the sane and rational group that doesn't click or visit those hateful sites, and that the sane and rational group will be able to diffuse the power of hate through elections.

We're on the precipice, though.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 11:38 AM | Reply

Slight correction

Hate gets clicks.
Clicks=money.
Money=power.
Power=Women
Hate=Women

Or are you saying Tony Montana was wrong?!?!

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-10-06 11:41 AM | Reply

Ha!
No, I'm not watching scarface again.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 11:58 AM | Reply

Not buying it.

The Spanish Flu petered out into the thing we get our annual flu shot for over the course of about two years. And there was no vaccine.

What may be different is the determination to minimize the number of new cases, which only lengthens the time it would take to reach herd immunity.

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-10-06 02:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#6

Oops, I was thinking he was a fighter jet...I knew better than that, I had one. My bad, fake plane fake poster fake news.

#20 | Posted by bocaink at 2021-10-06 04:02 PM | Reply

- Not buying it.

Hilarious! Scripps and Harvard need to fire these researchers and hire Madbummer instead, lmao!

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-06 04:34 PM | Reply

Money=power
Power=Women

Money is the root of all evil.
Women are evil.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 09:46 PM | Reply

The saying is... the love of money, not money itself.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-07 01:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Spanish Flu petered out into the thing we get our annual flu shot for over the course of about two years. And there was no vaccine.

Are you cool with another 1,400,000 people dying instead of getting the vaccine?

You are correct in that there was no vaccine. However this time there IS a vaccine that keeps people from dying.

#24 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-07 09:36 AM | Reply

The 1918 influenza outbreak - success and failure based on mitigation approaches and early intervention:
www.nationalgeographic.com
www.nih.gov

"The studies reached another important conclusion: That relaxing intervention measures too early could cause an otherwise stabilized city to relapse. St. Louis, for example, was so emboldened by its low death rate that the city lifted restrictions on public gatherings less than two months after the outbreak began. A rash of new cases soon followed. Of the cities that kept interventions in place, none experienced a second wave of high death rates."

"In 1918, a San Francisco health officer shot three people when one refused to wear a mandatory face mask."
That'll send a message!

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 09:47 AM | Reply

In case you're missing it, driving R0 to less than 1 causes a pandemic to burn out. You can drive R0 to less than 1 by vaccinating, mitigation, or by killing off your population. I've been typing the same thing since april/may of 2020 on this. The facts haven't changed.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 09:50 AM | Reply

If we get every adult in America vaccinated we might get lucky and not need to vaccinate every kid under 5.

There can be no free riders among healthy adults.

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-07 10:24 AM | Reply

"It's not an impossible number. In Portugal, Singapore and the United Arab Emirates, upward of 80% of the total population are vaccinated, and cases and deaths are falling."

This is why it's important to do research. Maybe this will shine some light on why you should actually not believe everything you read, even if it's from outlets that lean towards your party affiliation.

Portugal is in a valley of spikes, just like America has and the majority of ALL countries in the world. Sure, they aren't as pronounced but they have still had 2 spikes and are just on the downward side of one. Enough time hasn't lapsed to show if they will get any more spikes.
Singapore, well I'll let you look at the numbers. They are having a very huge spike right now (in proportion to their historic trend). This is a blatant lie and, in fact, contradicts the entire point this article is trying to make.
United Arab Emirates look good right now but they've had one long, continued spike this whole time. So this is the only one where a conclusion can reasonably be made based on the information today but has a chance to be disproven on a long enough timeline.

I can look through all of the numbers of every country and find ones that are in valleys, or at the beginning of spikes, at the end, etc. and cherry pick ones to mention in an article to try to make any point I want about covid. Anyone can do that. The problem here is this outlet is dead wrong on one of them and provides almost no relational evidence that the other two

Before you respond, PLEASE actually look at the numbers of those countries. This article is blatantly lying and misleading and, in this case, it's incredibly easy to prove that so there is no excuse for any of you to actually use this article as any sort of smoking gun to point out a conclusion.

#28 | Posted by humtake at 2021-10-07 01:00 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE A

Not getting your shots, are you?

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2021-10-07 01:14 PM | Reply

I can look through all of the numbers of every country and find ones that are in valleys, or at the beginning of spikes, at the end, etc. and cherry pick ones to mention in an article to try to make any point I want about covid. Anyone can do that. The problem here is this outlet is dead wrong on one of them and provides almost no relational evidence that the other two

Before you respond, PLEASE actually look at the numbers of those countries. This article is blatantly lying and misleading and, in this case, it's incredibly easy to prove that so there is no excuse for any of you to actually use this article as any sort of smoking gun to point out a conclusion.

#28 | Posted by humtake

Find me a single example of a highly vaccinated state having to ship patients to a LOW vaccination state due to overcrowded hospitals.

That doesn't happen. However low vaccination states were regularly shipping their patients to high vaccination states. How come?

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-07 01:28 PM | Reply

2522 COVID deaths yesterday

#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-10-07 02:15 PM | Reply

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