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Wednesday, October 06, 2021

Multiple people are wounded after a shooting Wednesday morning at Timberview High School in Arlington, police say. Mansfield ISD confirmed in a letter to parents that police are investigating an active shooter situation at the high school.

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"police say. Mansfield ISD confirmed in a letter to parents that police are investigating an active shooter situation at the high school.

They wrote the parents a letter? Somehow, I would expect a more direct communication, like a phone call.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2021-10-06 12:17 PM | Reply

@#1

Letter could have been delivered via email or text.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 12:29 PM | Reply

A phone call would still have been more direct and quicker. Writing a letter was sort of over the top PC.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2021-10-06 12:34 PM | Reply

Aren't guns fun!

#4 | Posted by mad_as_hell at 2021-10-06 12:41 PM | Reply

My thoughts and prayers are with the people of (insert city, school, church, concert venue, event here) for this horrific act of evil and to the families of those impacted by this tragedy

#seeyounexttime

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-10-06 12:43 PM | Reply

@#3 ... A phone call would still have been more direct and quicker. ...

Not really.

A couple three reasons...

1) it is easier and much quicker to mass-email or mass-text a group of parents.

2) the parents I know prefer email and/or text (usually text messages) as the means of emergency communications from the schools.

3) schools usually give the parents an option on how to be contacted in such emergencies, and the school follows the parents' desires.

4) this is early info, the word "letter" might not have been the best word to use to describe the communication process.


But let's get back to the real issue here, children being shot up by a person with a gun.....


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 12:57 PM | Reply

Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott signs permitless carry bill into law.

"The permitless carry bill will cause more violence and loss," said U.S. Rep. Veronica Escobar, D-El Paso, in a statement Wednesday. "Despite overwhelming support for common-sense gun violence prevention legislation like universal background checks, Texas Republicans, led by a cowardly governor, are more interested in groveling for the gun lobby's attention than they are in preventing gun violence and honoring victims and survivors in El Paso and across Texas."

A solid majority of Texas voters don't think permitless carry should be allowed, according to an April University of Texas/Texas Tribune Poll.

www.texastribune.org

Seems Republicans in Texas don't much care about school shootings or fostering an environment where guns are ubiquitous and are the answer to everything, much less what the people of Texas actually want.

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 01:02 PM | Reply

"But let's get back to the real issue here, children being shot up by a person with a gun....."

Honestly call me immediately. Alternative communications methods would be secondary. My phone is virtually will me all the time. If you want to contact me quickly, my phone is the quickest method.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2021-10-06 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Arlington police said there was a fight between students on the second floor of the school when one of the students pulled out a gun.
That student has been identified as 18-year-old Timothy George Simpkins who is now at large and considered armed and dangerous. That student has been identified as 18-year-old Timothy George Simpkins who is now at large and considered armed and dangerous."

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-10-06 01:14 PM | Reply

Way to Go, Abbott!
You see how it is in Teas? The so-called "right to life" is --------, apparently our right to live without being shot to death means nothing.

#10 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-10-06 01:17 PM | Reply

"Armed and Dangerous" will be the caption under this student's yearbook picture. Were a $10,000 bounty be issued to those anti-abortion vigilantes, this kid and about 37 others would be shot dead before Beer O'clock, which comes early down there. In Texas, sanctity of life ends upon birth...

#11 | Posted by catdog at 2021-10-06 01:23 PM | Reply

Tell me again how guns make us safer.

#12 | Posted by qcp at 2021-10-06 01:50 PM | Reply

The well-regulated militia.
Conducting ... maneuvers.
Yeah, that's it, maneuvers.
Thanks for your cooperation.
~ Wayne LaPuree

#13 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-10-06 01:51 PM | Reply

I see a lot of folks bashing Texas gun laws and the governor but this young man is 18 and not allowed to legally possess a handgun under Texas law.
Unfortunately he is old enough to screw up his life over a schoolyard fight.

#14 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-10-06 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And with over 1800 students how could anybody expect to call all the parents. And what kind of message do you leave if no one answers...and who is going to field all those return calls.
And of course any message in writing is easier to recall... especially in a traumatic incident like this.

#15 | Posted by ScottE at 2021-10-06 02:25 PM | Reply

What is up with the phrase 'active shooter' in mass media? It feels like the ultimate click bait. They might as well say "quick, come to our web site or flip to our channel before the shooter becomes inactive!" Seriously, what's the point of it? Is someone reading the headline going to teleport in and stop the active shooter? Is it to attract people who morbidly hope to see some of the carnage live?

#16 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 02:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

From the cited article, which has been updated...

...The suspected gunman, Timothy George Simpkins, is now in police custody....

That student has been identified as 18-year-old Timothy George Simpkins who has been taken into police custody after a manhunt across North Texas.

Arlington police also announced that a 45 caliber handgun was recovered in the streets of Grand Prairie. Investigators are now working to run ballistics on the gun.

Simpkins has been charged with multiple counts of Aggravated Assault with a gun....


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 02:38 PM | Reply

@#16 ... What is up with the phrase 'active shooter' ...

Simple: it is a description of the situation when the phrase was written in the news article or headline.

I see now that the cited article was updated, that the headline has changed to:

Live: 4 Hurt After Student Opens Fire During Fight at Timberview HS in Arlington

Oh, the miracle of websites....



#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 02:44 PM | Reply

"The suspected gunman, Timothy George Simpkins, is now in police custody."

Is he still active?

#19 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 02:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#19 ... Is he still active? ...

There is no longer an active shooter at the school, if that is what you're asking.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 02:50 PM | Reply


A total of four people were hurt, including two students and two adults.

A teen female suffered small abrasion. She is expected to be discharged from the hospital soon in good condition
A 15-year-old male who is in critical condition and has been in surgery
A 25-year-old male in good condition
An Adult female, pregnant, treated and released at the scene

Hmm... so it sounds like this was a fight between a couple of students, with couple of teachers and another student getting hurt in the scuffle. Not the equivalent of Columbine or El Paso that the media initially portrayed it to be.

#21 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 02:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I see a lot of folks bashing Texas gun laws and the governor but this young man is 18 and not allowed to legally possess a handgun under Texas law.

All these insane gun laws, the fetishizing of guns, the crazy fervor for guns all create a culture and send a message to everyone that guns are the answer and all powerful and the equalizer. What do you expect? Do you seriously think there are no consequences for these actions by the NRA and GOP?

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 03:03 PM | Reply

Oh, and the age he can own a gun in Texas is 18, unless he has permission - then there is no age limit.

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 03:05 PM | Reply

Sentinel:
NO, the shooter is not active any longer.
It's the NRA that is still active, helping to kill people.

#24 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-10-06 03:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sentinel:
NO, a "fight" does not involve one person shooting multiple people.

#25 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-10-06 03:13 PM | Reply

Don't look for Abbott to say much about this.
He's at the southern border; apparently that is where all Texas rapes occur.

#26 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-10-06 03:14 PM | Reply

Is there such a thing as a passive shooter?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-06 03:21 PM | Reply

@#27

What's the difference between flammable and inflammable?

English is a quirky language.

:)


#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-06 03:25 PM | Reply

FTA:


4 Hurt After Student Opens Fire During Fight at Timberview HS in Arlington

A manhunt is now over for an 18-year-old man law enforcement identified as a "person of interest" in the shooting that stemmed from a fight among students

Arlington police said there was a fight between students on the second floor of the school when one of the students pulled out a gun.

#29 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 03:30 PM | Reply

Arm all the students so it is a fair fight.
- Undertakers of Texas.

#30 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-06 03:34 PM | Reply

An Adult female, pregnant, treated and released at the scene

See Texas, when you outlaw abortions this is what people have to resort to!

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-10-06 03:50 PM | Reply

We had a house in Mansfield when I was kid... it was out in the country back then.

When adults in places like TX is today end up trying to solve their problems by carrying guns, there's little to be surprised about when younger people do the same.

Back when I lived in Mansfield, it was illegal to carry a knife over 5 inches, much less a gun, permit or not.

Of course, the rwing has re-written the Old West to pretend it is a model for today; back then, almost all towns outlawed carrying guns in town all over the West.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-06 03:59 PM | Reply

Or
4 Hurt After Student Opens Fire During Fight at Timberview HS in Arlington

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 06:03 PM | Reply

For #29, or course.

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 06:04 PM | Reply

And...? It was a fight, in which only one person was critically injured. Not a mass shooting like Columbine or El Paso or the Holocaust.

#35 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 09:09 PM | Reply

Oh. So we don't have to be concerned about this because it wasn't the Holocaust? The Holocaust? Wow. With your history of defending and attempting to rehabilitate the swastika I don't think going with that incredible hyperbole was doing yourself any favor.

Who was calling this a mass shooting? No one has done that except you.

#36 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-06 11:13 PM | Reply


According to the F.B.I., "an active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area."

...

Today, the sound of gunshots often prompts "active shooter" warnings on social media, whether or not the event fits the F.B.I.'s definition of the term. In many cases, reports of active shooters have turned out to be false.

"My concern is that we overuse it, and that it's used at times where there isn't an active shooter," said James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University.


What Does Active Shooter' Really Mean?

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 11:35 PM | Reply

" Oh. So we don't have to be concerned about this because it wasn't the Holocaust?"

If you'd pull your head out of your ass for a minute, you'd see that my point is equating incidents like this to Columbine is as dumb and counterproductive as using Holocaust hyperbole.

#38 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-06 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I never equated the two.
I don't see where anyone did that.
Anyone but you, that is.

#39 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 07:59 AM | Reply

How can you breathe with your head all the way up there?

#40 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 09:53 AM | Reply

You can't refute what I said so you're going with that?

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 10:45 AM | Reply

See #37

#42 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 11:50 AM | Reply

So you think because people aren't using the official blessed by the FBI definition of the word "active shooter" even though people on this thread have stated what they mean using it, that that means everyone is insisting that this is a mass shooting event?

If that's what you're doing, that's just plain stupid.

You still can't point to anyone that called this a mass shooting event.

Why are you even arguing something this ridiculous?

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 11:55 AM | Reply

You're a ------- idiot.

#44 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 12:03 PM | Reply

So you have nothing.
Again and again.
Nothing.

And you call me a ------- idiot?

LOL!

#45 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 12:06 PM | Reply

Yav's oxygen levels are getting dangerously low. Better get him to the ICU.

#46 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 12:20 PM | Reply

Ad hominem after ad hominem, and still not one example.

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 12:40 PM | Reply

Like I said, Y.A.A.V.I.

#48 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 12:49 PM | Reply

{yawn}

#49 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-07 12:54 PM | Reply

Low oxygen levels in the paraventricular nucleus (PVN) of the hypothalamus of the brain can induce yawning.

#50 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-10-07 01:04 PM | Reply

Its Texas, so the kid is out on bail.

#51 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-08 11:31 AM | Reply

Texas Constitution:

"Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS

Section 11 - BAIL

All prisoners shall be bailable by sufficient sureties, unless for capital offenses, when the proof is evident; but this provision shall not be so construed as to prevent bail after indictment found upon examination of the evidence, in such manner as may be prescribed by law."

law.justia.com

#52 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-08 02:47 PM | Reply

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