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Friday, October 08, 2021

Less than 48 hours after a federal court enjoined S.B. 8, Texas has filed an emergency motion for a stay with the Fifth Circuit. Texas asked for an administrative stay "as soon as possible," and an emergency stay pending appeal by Tuesday.

Here is the summary of the argument:

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The basis for the motion is essentially the power of the federal government to sue the State.

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#1 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-08 05:25 PM | Reply

For those unfamiliar, the Fifth Circuit is now a joke of a forum where good cases go to die. If they haven't already (i've been too busy to read anything today), they will absolutely stay the lower court's ruling.

Which is funny, because technically maintaining the status quo would mean leaving the Texas law on hold until its obvious unconstitutionality is adjudicated on the merits, but facts and reason don't matter in places like the Fifth Circuit.

#2 | Posted by JOE at 2021-10-08 07:05 PM | Reply

Well that didn't take long.

www.cnn.com

#3 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-08 09:52 PM | Reply

I would think Texas would have to show how Texas is likely to suffer some kind of harm if they don't get a stay, to substantiate this kind of request.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-08 10:06 PM | Reply

"the law deputizes private citizens to bring state court litigation against providers or anyone who assists a woman in obtaining an abortion after fetal cardiac activity is detected"

Is that true, as in, does the plaintiff actually have to show that cardiac activity was detected in the specific aborted fetus?

I thought they just took it as a given that cardiac activity is present by then.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-08 10:10 PM | Reply

And Texas can resume the ban.
F**k this Court.
F**k Republicans to hell and back.
This is inexcusable.

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-08 10:23 PM | Reply

"The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has struck down a lower federal court ruling that temporarily blocked Texas from enforcing its ban on abortions as early as six weeks into a pregnancy."

www.npr.org

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-08 10:25 PM | Reply

#4

The stay is administrative. The merits of the stay have not yet been considered. The feds are ordered to respond to the merits of the request by next Tuesday.

#8 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-08 10:31 PM | Reply

Looks like the "Court" doesn't care.

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-08 10:47 PM | Reply

The Court doesn't care about what?

#10 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-08 10:55 PM | Reply

This is outrageous! How are we going to kill babies now?!?

- Liberal Democrats

#11 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-09 11:02 AM | Reply

I make ---- up and constantly lie!

-The dumbass poster that now calls itself "Skeptical."

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-09 11:16 AM | Reply

" The Court doesn't care about what?"

Erring on the side of the anti-abortionists.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-09 11:40 AM | Reply

This is outrageous! How are we going to kill babies now?!?
- Liberal Democrats

#11 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

Make sure their parents don't get vaccinated and give them plenty of Invermectin.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-09 07:35 PM | Reply

"Make sure their parents don't get vaccinated and give them plenty of Invermectin.
#14 | POSTED BY LEGALLYBRAINDEAD"

Seems wholly ineffective - unless, you are afraid of the squirts like Danforth. Can you link to how many babies under 1 year old died from covid? Seems like they don't need the vaccine or anything else - although - you did need aborted fetus cells to make your vaccine (J&J + Pfizer).

#15 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-10 09:10 PM | Reply

More lies from Skeptical. Every post it makes contains at least one lie. This time, two statements, two lies from the poster:

J&J does not contain any aborted fetus cells:
www.reuters.com

Under 1 year old deaths, newborns, first few lines from a search:
www.orlandosentinel.com
www.usnews.com
www.mississippifreepress.org
floridapolitics.com

It goes on and on and on.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-10 09:31 PM | Reply

Oh. Pfizer:
apnews.com

Nope. So let's make that 3 lies from 3 points you made.

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-10 09:33 PM | Reply

"More lies from Skeptical. Every post it makes contains at least one lie. This time, two statements, two lies from the poster:
J&J does not contain any aborted fetus cells:
www.reuters.com"

That was never my claim. Aborted fetus cells were used in the vaccine development for both J&J and Pfizer.

www.snopes.com
"A fetal cell line, or copies of a primary cell dating back to an abortion or miscarriage in 1973, was used in testing the efficacy of the vaccine."

"Under 1 year old deaths, newborns, first few lines from a search
#16 | POSTED BY YAV"

I asked how many - I never said the number was ZERO. You are the definition of fake news. I asked 'how many' because the number is almost zero - which is way lower than the hundreds of thousands of fetus killed each year in abortion clinics and represents a 99.99% survival rate for covid for babies under 1 year old.

So, everything I wrote was 100% true. You tried, and failed, twice to misrepresent my arguments. You should be ashamed of yourself.

#18 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-10 10:14 PM | Reply

you did need aborted fetus cells to make your vaccine (J&J + Pfizer).

Not true. Both vaccines were made without "aborted fetus cells." The cells were used in testing how efficient the vaccine was. The vaccine contains none, and the testing could have been done without this step, but it would have taken longer to get the vaccine out.

I asked how many - I never said the number was ZERO. You are the definition of fake news.
You said: Can you link to how many babies under 1 year old died from covid? implying there were none or that it was insignificant. Now you are trying to wiggle out saying that only a specific exact number matters? After you posted a list of garbage of 17 -------- lies, imprecise language, half-truths
here?

---- off, you lying disengnuous trolling piece of ----.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-10 10:52 PM | Reply

"you did need aborted fetus cells to make your vaccine (J&J + Pfizer).
Not true. Both vaccines were made without "aborted fetus cells." The cells were used in testing how efficient the vaccine was. The vaccine contains none, and the testing could have been done without this step, but it would have taken longer to get the vaccine out.

Aborted fetus cells were used in the development - this is 100% undeniable. Why you want to exclude this as part of 'making a vaccine' is ridiculous. Could they have been made NOT use fetus cells? Yes. Were they? - NO!

Stop lying.

"You said: Can you link to how many babies under 1 year old died from covid? implying there were none or that it was insignificant.
#19 | POSTED BY YAV "

They number of babies under 1 year old that have died from covid 19 IS insignificant.

The total number of babies under 1 year that died from covid is 121 (CDC website)

That is 121 deaths out of 700k covid deaths = 0.017% of US covid deaths
That is 121 out of 32,000 deaths of all causes in this age group = 0.37% of all deaths under 1 year old
That is 121 deaths out of ~5.5M births during this timeframe = 0.0022% of all births during this time

So - compared to the ~1.5M abortions during this timeframe, covid represents an insignificant risk for babies under 1 year old.

#20 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-10 11:34 PM | Reply

This is outrageous! How are we going to kill babies now?!?

- Liberal Democrats

#11 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-09 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Let them starve, freeze to death or die of preventable diseases because they can't get medical care like the GOP does.

#21 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-11 07:25 AM | Reply

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