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Monday, October 11, 2021

Paul McCartney has revisited the breakup of The Beatles, flatly disputing the suggestion that he was responsible for the group's demise.

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..."I didn't instigate the split," McCartney said. "That was our Johnny."...

When asked by interviewer John Wilson about the decision to strike out on his own, McCartney retorted: "Stop right there. I am not the person who instigated the split. Oh no, no, no. John walked into a room one day and said, I am leaving The Beatles.' Is that instigating the split, or not?"

McCartney expressed sadness over the breakup, saying the group was still making "pretty good stuff." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-11 01:42 PM | Reply

Ok, blame the dead guy.

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-11 01:45 PM | Reply

It probably was more complicated than just one day John left the band.

Regardless. Lennon's death was the main reason they never had a reunion.

Which is a shame. Because they really are arguably one of the best groups ever.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-11 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#3 ... Regardless. Lennon's death was the main reason they never had a reunion. ...

That's pretty much my thoughts as well.

Many bands break up for whatever reason, but heal the wounds and find their way back to teaming up again and performing.

Lennon's death made that impossible.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-11 01:58 PM | Reply

It's long been speculated that it isn't really Ringo on the later albums. In other words, the band was already broken up.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-11 02:02 PM | Reply

Ringo may not have contributed much to the Beatles.

But they never played a show without him.

But that may be why they stopped touring.

The music became too complicated to play live.

Last concert: 1966

Last public performance:1969 (roof top)

Beatles break up: 1970

John dies: 1980

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-11 02:24 PM | Reply

It's long been speculated that it isn't really Ringo on the later albums"

Its also been speculated that ivermectin cures COVID.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-11 04:36 PM | Reply

This is obvious" John had more side project opportunities than Paul.

#8 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-11 04:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is not new information. Why are they writing this up like it is suddenly news, after all this time? Paul has said this before, long ago.

#9 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2021-10-11 04:37 PM | Reply

It was always John's band. He was the alpha. The alpha decides when things happen. Paul is deferring to John's rightful position here very respectfully.

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-11 04:42 PM | Reply

#9 because there is a book to sell.

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-11 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#9 ... Why are they writing this up like it is suddenly news, after all this time? ...

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... The interview comes ahead Peter Jackson's six-hour documentary chronicling the final months of the band.

"The Beatles: Get Back," set for release in November on Disney+, is certain to revisit the breakup of the legendary band. McCartney's comments were first reported by The Observer....


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-10-11 05:11 PM | Reply

Ooh, I was so close

#13 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-11 05:18 PM | Reply

Book is so old fashioned.

You must have been born last century.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-11 05:30 PM | Reply

"Ringo may not have contributed much to the Beatles."

Strongly disagree.

I mean, provided it was really him on those records, he was great.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-11 05:35 PM | Reply

Nerf,

"It was always John's band. He was the alpha."

McCartney tried to changed the official credits from Lennon/McCartney to McCartney/Lennon but Yoko blocked it.

Sad...huh?

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-10-11 08:19 PM | Reply

I do wonder what artists today will still be discussed 50 years after they are disbanded.

If you are old enough to have experienced Beatlemania....there was nothing like it and hasn't been since.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-10-11 08:22 PM | Reply

Paul McCartney would be writing jingles for frozen breakfast sandwiches if it weren't for John Lennon.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-11 08:26 PM | Reply

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-11 08:26 PM | Reply

#9 justagirl got it right.

Those guys went through the ringer. They each quit within a short amount of time.

What killed the Beatles, business.
Bobby Whitlock

They'd have never reunited
Imagine the expectations
Of all the bands each member came out on top on their own.

Keith Richards to Mick Taylor
Quitting the band? We aren't the Beatles, best of luck to you pal.

They were still ----------- from Liverpool

#20 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-10-11 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm just gonna keep blaming Yoko.

#21 | Posted by censored at 2021-10-11 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 see that's part of the problem.

They didn't owe you the Beatles.
It was what it was when it was.
4 guys, everyone thinks they owe us.

As Lennon said " you have the albums if you want to reminence"

#22 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-10-11 11:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

paul is an airhead.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2021-10-11 11:12 PM | Reply

Who are the Beetles?

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-10-11 11:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sorry...Beatles.

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-10-11 11:15 PM | Reply

#23 ted nugent is an airhead

Paul is many things

#26 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-10-11 11:19 PM | Reply

"McCartney tried to changed the official credits..."

Only on songs where he was either the sole or main writer, like "Yesterday" or "Hey Jude".

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-11 11:25 PM | Reply

#27 a part of that was when we all started downloading on our computers is when it would come up Lennon/Mac..... on the credits.

#28 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-10-11 11:37 PM | Reply

Sounds like we all heard the same interview. I think it was Terri Gross?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-11 11:38 PM | Reply

Also you have to remenber these guys were only 28 years old or so.

I was still learning to tie my shoes at that age.

Metaphorically

#30 | Posted by bruceaz at 2021-10-11 11:50 PM | Reply

The quote that surprised me the most was George's, about the early mayhem:

Beatlemania?!? We didn't know from Beatlemania. That was something going on outside our window.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-11 11:52 PM | Reply

Anything to stay in the Media's lens, eh Sir Paul?

#32 | Posted by DMTDust at 2021-10-12 12:35 AM | Reply

John has been dead longer than he lived.

#33 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-10-12 06:50 AM | Reply

Snoofy,

There's this guy who for years ran around saying he played the drums on the albums but he's been pretty well disputed

Ringo brought a lot to the other 3. They've evaluated bpm of Pete Best of known recordings and he wasn't consistent.

Ringo is an important part of the formula that made them click.

Paul joined John's already existing band and has always been in his shadow from what I could tell.

However the Beatles were a band of 4 strong talented individuals.

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-10-12 08:21 AM | Reply

"There's this guy who for years ran around saying he played the drums on the albums but he's been pretty well disputed"

Sounds familiar. There's also this guy who is currently running around saying he won the 2020 presidential election but he's been pretty well disputed.

I guess we'll always have idiots like that- the key is how many other idiots believe them.

#35 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-10-12 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nerf,

OCD much?

#36 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-10-12 12:20 PM | Reply

"There's this guy who for years ran around saying he played the drums on the albums but he's been pretty well disputed"

No, not that. Some actual legitimate studio musician from the era.

I'm not saying it's true. I don't have a dog in this race.

Either way, I'm not one of those people who needs to blame anyone for The Beatles breaking up. They made some great music, then they mostly kept making great music on their own. They don't owe their fans a damn thing.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-12 12:24 PM | Reply

Dan,

Thanks for the info.

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2021-10-12 12:27 PM | Reply

I saw a couple articles that had a liitle more info-This is a paragraph from an article on CNN-

In an upcoming interview on BBC Radio 4, he told journalist John Wilson: "John walked into the room one day and said, 'I'm leaving the Beatles.' And he said, 'It's quite thrilling. It's rather like a divorce.' And then we were left to pick up the pieces," McCartney said in a preview that aired on the station's Today program Monday.

While Wilson highlighted that McCartney was the one to sue his bandmates to end the business partnership, he also said being blamed for the band's breakup had "frustrated McCartney for half a century."
McCartney said Lennon's decision to leave the band was driven by his pursuit of social justice, including movements such as "bagism," where he and his wife, Yoko Ono, wore bags to urge people not to judge others based on their appearance.
Lennon and Ono also held "bed-ins" for peace in Amsterdam and Montreal in 1969, whereby they lay in bed in hotel rooms for a week in protest against conflict, particularly the Vietnam War.
"The point of it really was that John was making a new life with Yoko and he wanted to go in a bag, and he wanted to lie in bed for a week in Amsterdam, for peace," McCartney said. "You couldn't argue with that."

#39 | Posted by northlimadawg at 2021-10-12 12:38 PM | Reply

In September of '69, John walked into a business meeting at Apple and said he wanted a divorce. Like the one he had with Cynthia. They were all taken aback. That's why his first solo album, Plastic Ono Band, came out only two months later. Lennon was the only one with the guts to leave the castle.

Also, Ringo Starr has a very distinct drumming style. Paul was/is a good competent drummer, but nowhere near what Ringo was/is.

#40 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-10-12 12:41 PM | Reply

See? I told you Paul McCartney was in a band before 'Wings'.
Who's Paul McCartney?
--Two 30 Somethings discussing music

#41 | Posted by catdog at 2021-10-12 01:10 PM | Reply

The Beatles ran their course. It was time to move on. Lennon was the first one to really get it. Also, we would never have gotten Ringo's All Stars if the band had stayed together.

#42 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-10-12 02:56 PM | Reply

The Beatles lifespan was a magical mystery tour; invading "the states" and turning it's best sounds into new ones. Then the California Sound was born in Laurel Canyon in an appreciative response. There are several very good recent documentaries about that birthing.

www.denofgeek.com

Both were really something wonderful to experience first hand.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-12 04:07 PM | Reply

from the above linked interview

"I never heard the story about George Harrison getting the 12-string from Rickenbacker because he happened to be alone in the Beatles Hotel. I want to know a little bit about the importance of the Beatles and the Rickenbacker on those early recordings and how that helped shape the sound."

"- Well, there is a reason that the Rickenbacker is on the poster for the film. It really begins with that 12-string guitar that probably exercised the most pronounced influence over anything in folk-rock, in the last 50 years.

Roger McGuinn sees a Hard Day's Night, sees George playing a Rickenbacker, has to go get a Rickenbacker. He records the first Byrds album. George hears that, he writes, "If I Needed Someone," which is based on a riff of "Bells of Rhymney" on that first record, that goes on Rubber Soul.

Brian Wilson hears Rubber Soul, he writes Pet Sounds, as you know. The Beatles hear Pet Sounds, they write Sgt. Pepper."

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-12 04:10 PM | Reply

I will never forget that night in Feb. It changed the world. They really were the "Toppermost of the Poppermost".

#45 | Posted by uncle_meat at 2021-10-12 05:04 PM | Reply

#24 posts until the Yesterday reference.

#46 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-12 10:50 PM | Reply

apropos of nothing...

Billy Strings - Train Train (Memphis, TN 10/1/21)

www.youtube.com

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-13 12:43 AM | Reply

apropos of ... well ... Billy Strings

Give it a minute. www.youtube.com

#48 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-13 02:34 AM | Reply

yeah...have lost a bit of respect for Paul. First this comes out
about him blaming John, then today he basically called the Rolling
Stones a glorified 'Blues Cover Band'...

I think the man (hopefully) is just off his Meds...
I hope this is just a 'Senior Moment'.

#49 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-13 01:58 PM | Reply

Controversial Senior Moment... is a great name for a new supergroup!

McCartney, Clapton, Ozzy, Gene Simmons, Stephan Tyler... "GG" Allin on drums!

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2021-10-13 03:21 PM | Reply

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