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Sunday, October 17, 2021

Y: The Last Man's long path to the screen wound up being longer than its life on-screen. Showrunner Eliza Clark and star Amber Tamblyn took to Twitter on Sunday to announce that the adaptation of Brian K. Vaughan's beloved comics will not return for a second season on FX on Hulu.

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I stopped watching it because for a show that is supposed to be about the last man it spent time more about the the trans character/actor from shameless crying about finding hormones.

#1 | Posted by Scotty at 2021-10-18 01:41 AM | Reply

Oh no! What will we do without another important "drama" about a dystopian world based on a comic book?

#2 | Posted by Jaspar at 2021-10-18 09:29 AM | Reply

I stopped watching it because for a show that is supposed to be about the last man it spent time more about the the trans character/actor from shameless crying about finding hormones.

#1 | POSTED BY SCOTTY

Obviously you didn't actually watch it.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-18 10:53 AM | Reply

The show was garbage. It meandered. The characters made no sense and lacked any depth. They made inexplicably weird and bad decisions to drive drama into the plot. It was some of the worst writing of any show in the last decade.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-18 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The show was garbage. It meandered. The characters made no sense and lacked any depth. They made inexplicably weird and bad decisions to drive drama into the plot. It was some of the worst writing of any show in the last decade.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant

That's what happens when greenlight shows based on wokeness instead of talent.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-18 12:22 PM | Reply

Hm, never heard of this show. By the description I thought I had heard of it, but no, I was thinking of "See."

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-18 01:10 PM | Reply

Hm, never heard of this show. By the description I thought I had heard of it, but no, I was thinking of "See."

#6 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Now that IS a decent show.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-18 02:44 PM | Reply

That's what happens when greenlight shows based on wokeness instead of talent.

#5 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

It's not wokeness that is the problem or the idea for the show. It was the writing.

The story wholly broke down with the new President and her son doing things that made absolutely zero sense in the face of a world catastrophe.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-18 02:46 PM | Reply

So the DR called this one. How prophetic we all are.

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-10-18 05:24 PM | Reply

It's not wokeness that is the problem or the idea for the show. It was the writing.

The story wholly broke down with the new President and her son doing things that made absolutely zero sense in the face of a world catastrophe.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant

Hiring writers based on their gender or race instead of their talent and abilities is wokeness.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-18 06:37 PM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY SCOTTY

Obviously you didn't actually watch it.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-18 10:53 AM

No I watched about 3 and 1/2 episodes.I just couldn't justify more time on it.

#11 | Posted by Scotty at 2021-10-18 06:39 PM | Reply

"Hiring writers based on their gender or race instead of their talent and abilities is wokeness."
#10 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Explains why all those shows written by old white men suck so bad.

#12 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-19 12:23 AM | Reply

Like most new shows it needs time to find its audience. I wish they'd give it that time because some of the story lines were interesting. Probably going to replace it with another super hero garbage show.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-19 09:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Hiring writers based on their gender or race instead of their talent and abilities is wokeness.

#10 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Except that didn't happen.

The original script where all the bad issues came from was written by Michael Green...same guy who wrote Logan, Alien: Covenant, Blade Runner 2049 and Murder on the Orient Express.

I don't think the best writers in the world could save the train wreck of a plot line as adapted by Green. The original comic had a much more believable plotline but...Green changed a lot to add drama and just ends up rehashing what we've seen in every other dystopian world stories and put in some character decisions that make little sense.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2021-10-19 11:55 AM | Reply

"Explains why all those shows written by old white men suck so bad."

Looks like there's a musical coming out that will really speak to you. ;)

www.youtube.com

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-19 12:03 PM | Reply

Now that IS a decent show.

#7 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Great to hear. I've also been told that there's a quality series on Apple+ exploring the idea of "what if the space race never ended during the Cold War." Definitely sounds interesting

#16 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-19 12:12 PM | Reply

That's what happens when greenlight shows based on wokeness instead of talent.
#5 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Man you sound just like Goatman, BellDinger, or any of the other Rightwing morons who don't know wtf they're talking about.

Congratulations. You're a moron.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 12:14 PM | Reply

Sycophant nailed it:


The show was garbage. It meandered. The characters made no sense and lacked any depth. They made inexplicably weird and bad decisions to drive drama into the plot. It was some of the worst writing of any show in the last decade.
#4 | Posted by Sycophant

Also. The "last man" was the dumbest, most childish idiot of them all. All the "decisions" he made were counter intuitive and the exact opposite of what anyone would do in real life.

It's a weak version of the walking dead. Except, instead of zombies, it's just women, still concerned about being Republicans or Democrats.

The fact there's no more men seems a secondary thought to them.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 12:26 PM | Reply

Meh. Didn't Zardoz take care of this about a billion years ago?

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-19 01:01 PM | Reply

Zardoz

Never seen the movie. Only the posters of Sean Connery in that weird ass outfit.

Is it any good?

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 02:03 PM | Reply

Man you sound just like Goatman, BellDinger, or any of the other Rightwing morons who don't know wtf they're talking about.

Congratulations. You're a moron.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack

Actually I know exactly what I'm talking about. I was talking to a tv producer/director last week and he was saying that he is having to slow down production to help an unqualified director of photography who was a diversity hire. This producer IS a minority but he was saying even that isn't enough for him to get many jobs today because they want to hire someone who is both female and minority. These corporations are so desperate to prove how woke they are that qualified people are losing jobs to unqualified people purely based on skin color and ------- type.

My most frequent client company said they need to work on hiring more minorities for next season. You know what that means? People with institutional knowledge on how to do the job will be passed over for inexperienced people who don't know the job but have the right skin color, and the entire project will suffer for it. Team projects are like everyone pushing a heavy wagon up a hill together. Do you want to hire the strongest pushers, or the ones with the right skin color and --------?

And do you know what this does to swing voters and swing states? Do you think it helps liberals win elections? Or does it help the fascists prove that liberals are bad for working class whites?

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 02:58 PM | Reply

Is it any good?

#20 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Not really.

#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-19 03:12 PM | Reply

"Is it any good?"

It's not worth your time.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-19 03:56 PM | Reply

I haven't watched it yet but I loved the graphic novels so I had high hopes. Not sure I'll bother after reading what you all have to say.

Shame, much like Kings "Dark Tower" some books just don't seem to work well on the big screen.

#24 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2021-10-19 04:39 PM | Reply

Actually I know exactly what I'm talking about.

If a show sucks, it sucks.

Has nothing to do with the comic book it's based on, that came out decades ago. (Which also wasn't successful)

I'm not even trying to defend the show. It's bad. Bad writing. Unbelievable characters. Unrealistic responses to situations.

But that has nothing to do with your outrage at "wokeness."

Which. Literally sounds like Goatman's "proggies" and Boaz's "liberals".

Just a big, nameless, faceless entity you're blaming, for Democrats failing to control the lies being spread at local levels of society and failing to clean house in the federal government.

It's all because of shows like this, or bisexual super teenager that people support fascism.

Just like it was Rock and Roll that was destroying society.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 05:11 PM | Reply

If a show sucks, it sucks.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack

yeah and if you hire people to make a show based on their race and gender instead of on their skills, it's more likely to suck.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 05:15 PM | Reply

It's all because of shows like this, or bisexual super teenager that people support fascism.

Just like it was Rock and Roll that was destroying society.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack

No losing the job you're qualified for to someone who is less qualified because they have the right skin color is what makes people support fascism.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 05:16 PM | Reply

losing the job you're qualified for to someone who is less qualified because they have the right skin color is what makes people support fascism.

Using that logic, black people are fascists.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 05:27 PM | Reply

if you hire people to make a show based on their race and gender instead of on their skills, it's more likely to suck.
#26 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Is that what happened here?

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 05:29 PM | Reply

Using that logic, black people are fascists.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack

How so?

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 05:32 PM | Reply

What do you mean, how so?

"losing the job you're qualified for to someone who is less qualified because they have the right skin color"

Literally happens to black people ALL THE TIME.

Less qualified white people get jobs more qualified black people have applied to.

There have been studies done on it.

It's called institutionalized racism.

Don't go all BellDinger on me.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 05:36 PM | Reply

I'll tell you what happened here.

The producers of "Y: The last Man" have been trying to find a home for their show for a decade.

Hulu is still a (relatively) new streaming platform. Especially in regards to original content.

They will accept ANYTHING that's pitched to them right now.

Much like Netflix does. Or any streaming platform.

They don't care about the show. They just want a ton of content for people to binge watch.

I've worked with both network executives and streaming platform executives.

Network execs actually care about what's going on their networks. There's limited time to attract viewers to sell advertisements to. Their shows represent them.

Streaming platform execs don't care. At all. They just want it done.

Once they release it, the show will either succeed or fail. Who cares. Not them. They have unlimited space and content and they're gambling that for every 100 shows, 1 will be a hit.

There's nothing more to this. No wokeness.

Just capitalism and survival of the fittest.

Y the last man found someone willing to make their show. It sucked. It failed.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 05:49 PM | Reply

"losing the job you're qualified for to someone who is less qualified because they have the right skin color"

Literally happens to black people ALL THE TIME.

Amazing how, if you've had privilege all your life, the one thing you're most afraid of is being treated the way you've treated others.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-19 06:08 PM | Reply

Amazing how, if you've had privilege all your life, the one thing you're most afraid of is being treated the way you've treated others.

#33 | Posted by Danforth

So is the goal equality or revenge? If it's equality then you say no one's skin color should be taken into consideration. If it's revenge then you say "the people who've had jobs need to lose them to give others a turn"

Good luck selling "revenge against white people" to swing voters.
You can sell them "equal opportunity for all" but how many white swing voters are going to vote for "well white people had historical advantages, so now it's their turn to be disadvantaged"?

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 06:18 PM | Reply

Less qualified white people get jobs more qualified black people have applied to.

There have been studies done on it.

It's called institutionalized racism.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack

Wow what a well supported argument. All of your examples and links really convinced me.

The solution to institutionalized racism isn't just swapping roles between oppressor and oppressed.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 06:20 PM | Reply

All of your examples and links really convinced me.

You need links to be convinced of institutionalized racism?

Are you trolling me? Did your username get hacked?

You sound like you're two steps away from voting for Trump in order to spite all the "wokeness."

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 06:27 PM | Reply

"So is the goal equality or revenge?"

Well, if you combine redlining with a community depression of wages in one group, add stepped-up basis for inheritance, GRATs, and tax-favored investment mostly used by the other group, and multiply that advantage by a half-dozen generations...

...how would you right those wrongs?

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-19 06:37 PM | Reply

You need links to be convinced of institutionalized racism?

Are you trolling me? Did your username get hacked?

You sound like you're two steps away from voting for Trump in order to spite all the "wokeness."

#36 | Posted by ClownShack

Institutionalized racism is real, and it's the reason more black people dont have the qualifications of white people, but that's not the same as more qualified black people were losing jobs to less qualified white people. The solution is not to give less qualified oppressed groups the jobs of more qualified groups, it's to raise their qualifications and training so that they can be hired on merit not race.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 06:45 PM | Reply

"So is the goal equality or revenge?"

Well, if you combine redlining with a community depression of wages in one group, add stepped-up basis for inheritance, GRATs, and tax-favored investment mostly used by the other group, and multiply that advantage by a half-dozen generations...

...how would you right those wrongs?

#37 | Posted by Danforth

Well if i'm a woke warrior I guess my strategy would be to impose all those things on white people instead of black people.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 06:46 PM | Reply

The funniest part of this is AS I TYPE THIS, I am spending my time fixing the sloppy work of an unqualified diversity hire on my current job.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 06:50 PM | Reply

Streaming platform execs don't care. At all. They just want it done.

Makes sense. Netflix reports their audience engagement numbers to stockholders (there's an abbreviation for the metric, but it slips my mind right now). Something like clicks + duration on show/episodes + duration on platform.

I'm surprised that platforms even ask if the user is still watching, but I suppose that is to conserve resources at the CDN/HQ?

#41 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-19 06:55 PM | Reply

"Well if i'm a woke warrior I guess my strategy would be to impose all those things on white people instead of black people."

You sound like one of those folks afraid to become a minority in the US because of how the US treats minorities.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-19 06:57 PM | Reply

If I start a TV show and I hire people of color as writers, directors, etc....who's "losing their job"?? If the job didn't exist before...

#43 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-19 07:02 PM | Reply

#40 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

It takes some time to be able to clean a urinal correctly, or so I'm told.

#44 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-19 07:03 PM | Reply

You sound like one of those folks afraid to become a minority in the US because of how the US treats minorities.

#42 | Posted by Danforth

I'm one of those people trying to explain to lefties why they keep losing elections so that they'll stop losing and our country wont fall to fascism.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 07:25 PM | Reply

If I start a TV show and I hire people of color as writers, directors, etc....who's "losing their job"?? If the job didn't exist before...

#43 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

There are a set number of jobs in any industry. If you start rewarding those jobs to people because of their race, that means other people losing out on those jobs because of they weren't the right race.

Then you get to election time and say VOTE FOR US! THE PARTY WHO THINKS YOU SHOULD LOSE YOUR JOB BECAUSE OF YOUR RACE!

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 07:27 PM | Reply

There are a set number of jobs in any industry.

Who sets the set number of jobs?
I respectfully reject that axiom.

#47 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-19 08:16 PM | Reply

"There are a set number of jobs in any industry."

How many job number setters are there?

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-19 08:21 PM | Reply

How many job number setters are there?

#48 | Posted by snoofy

Depends on the number of eyeballs in the developed world. The more eyeballs, the more jobs to create content for all those eyeballs.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-19 08:53 PM | Reply

The dumbest part of this argument is assuming this show was made in order to be woke.

The comic series ran from September 2002 through March 2008.

This was before the concept of "woke" existed.

I never read the comic. So I can't say if the show was faithful to it.

Regardless. It's canceled now.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-19 08:55 PM | Reply

from above...

"Explains why all those shows written by old white men suck so bad."

#12 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2021

That could also explain the same about our current political situation in this country...

Too many old white terrible men in command.

#51 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-19 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Go vote for Sarah Palin and congratulate yourself for being woke when in reality you're a loser.

#52 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-20 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Too many old white terrible men in command.

#51 | Posted by earthmuse

Marjorie Taylor Greene appreciates your support.

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 01:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So does lauren boebert.

Women are so much better than men.

#54 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"There are a set number of jobs in any industry."

Well that's just b.s. pal.

#55 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-20 01:50 PM | Reply

"There are a set number of jobs in any industry."

Well that's just b.s. pal.

#55 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

No that's common sense dummy. I mean i guess everyone in the world could open a lemonade stand, but how many would stay in business?

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 02:11 PM | Reply

There are a set number of jobs in any industry.

So? Should it be assumed those jobs are for white heterosexual males? Other races and genders need not apply?

If you start rewarding those jobs to people because of their race, that means other people losing out on those jobs because of they weren't the right race.

Man, I can't believe you're just realizing this.

You're lucky you were born white.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-20 02:50 PM | Reply

You're lucky you were born white.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack

I am. But that doesn't mean I should lose jobs that I'm more qualified for to someone less qualified because of my skin color.

Or do you think it does?

Do you want the best surgeon doing your heart surgery or a surgeon who's not as good, but he's getting a chance because his ancestors were oppressed?

How woke would you be on the operating table?

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 02:57 PM | Reply

"I am. But that doesn't mean I should lose jobs that I'm more qualified for to someone less qualified because of my skin color."

As Clownshack pointed out, that's a two way street, and the traffic on it runs quite favorably in the white man's direction.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-20 03:00 PM | Reply

As Clownshack pointed out, that's a two way street, and the traffic on it runs quite favorably in the white man's direction.

#59 | Posted by snoofy

Same question for you then - do you want your surgeon to be one that was hired for his skills or his skin color?

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 03:02 PM | Reply

Side note - this is day 3 of me spending my time at work fixing the sloppy inferior work of a diversity hire. I'm making no extra money for doing this, falling behind schedule on my own project, and giving up time that I normally spend with my partner or exercising. But I'm white so I deserve it right?

#61 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-20 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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