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Wednesday, October 20, 2021

A good candidate for work applied 60 different entry level jobs in Florida and we got one job interview.

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You want an entry-level job? Look female, look attractive, and look like you might have sex with whoever is hiring you.

Ugly people get to work in construction and in the back kitchen and guys that can't or won't do those jobs and don't have connections get to be unemployed.

We live in a f*****-up Society.

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Employers are thinking that they can keep on screwing the workers. They think they can continue to pay low wages, offer little or no benefits, and offer part time hours that no one can live on, and workers will just crowd in to apply.

Further, none of them have adjusted their applications to lower the expectations for employment. You don't need a college graduate to operate a cash register, you don't need 15 years of experience to be a waitress.

Mostly those complaining about not finding workers are putting no effort into actually seeking workers. They are hoping that complaining loudly will help in some way. After all it got the stimulus checks stopped and the unemployment payments lowered.

In these times of the pandemic, people are asking themselves if the pay and benefits are worth the exposure to them and their families. They are also asking themselves if they want to continue to do the work they were doing. A good portion are coming up with a no answer. The idea they are doing the work of 3 or 4 other's jobs and not getting anymore for the requirements are telling them they are worn out doing their old jobs. Why not change to something new in hopes of a better paying job or a job more satisfying to them?

#1 | Posted by BBQ at 2021-10-21 03:30 AM | Reply

The talking point du jour by the right wing know nothings of $300 per week was causing people to not look for work was always -------. They can't imagine anything other than the simplest excuse of a complex issue.

The sh*tty jobs with low pay, no benefits and ----- customers (looking right at you maskholes) lost their workers during COVID for bigger employers with benefits and better pay.

Why wait tables for $2.14 per hour when a family of Boazes comes in, orders $200 of food and leaves zero tip or a snarky note written on the tip line of "go back to school"?

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-21 07:24 AM | Reply

I have a family friend who runs an auto body shop.

He cannot get people to apply, if they do and he hires them, they don't show up.

This is since covid... Tell me what he's doing wrong. This isn't a crap job, benefits, good pay, etc...

#3 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-21 12:38 PM | Reply

Is it an entry-level job?

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-21 03:44 PM | Reply

Auto-body job with benefits? SUUUURRRRRRE Pal.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-21 06:39 PM | Reply

It's a general position in an auto body shop, in the shop. Something you'd go to a vocational school for.

I'm actually at dinner with him now... had another new hire pull a no show this Monday. Hired last Friday, ghosted him.

#6 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-21 06:40 PM | Reply

#5, my mistake about benefits.

Still in the field of autobody, and comparing pay, they're right in the middle. That's a good skilled labor job they can't hire for.

#7 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-21 08:09 PM | Reply

I was writing about entry level jobs still your friends situation is peculiar.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-21 10:37 PM | Reply

The old adage comes to mind, you get what you pay for.

If you can't find workers, pay more.

#9 | Posted by bored at 2021-10-21 11:23 PM | Reply

Why wait tables for $2.14 per hour when a family of Boazes comes in, orders $200 of food and leaves zero tip or a snarky note written on the tip line of "go back to school"?

#2 | POSTED BY NIXON

I doubt the lily white racist redneck that is comrade Boazo has $200 to his name, unless he had a record day begging for quarters on the off ramp.

#10 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-10-22 12:22 AM | Reply

Still in the field of autobody, and comparing pay, they're right in the middle. That's a good skilled labor job they can't hire for.
#7 | POSTED BY KWRX25

Econ 101 - supply/demand. Look at the housing market this past year where successful buyers have often had to pay over asking price to complete a purchase.
Same thing goes with purchasing labor. He's trying to buy a product that is in high demand. Being "right in the middle" with his offer just means others are offering more. He's either getting outbid by another auto body shop or a different industry or the sellers he has been able to hire decided they value their time and effort more than he does once they experienced the actual job. What's the culture of the shop like? Is it a toxic work environment? A lot of people are far less inclined to put up with that anymore.

#11 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-10-22 01:07 AM | Reply

#11 they get hired, and then never show up for the first day, and then ghost any attempts to contact. He's been trying to fill a slot since April, and has had this happen many times. He also advertises for hiring right out of trade school, and will train on job. So it's not like he's underpaying experienced help.

#12 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-22 09:46 AM | Reply

"#11 they get hired, and then never show up for the first day, and then ghost any attempts to contact."

Maybe it was a grad student seeing how hard it is to get hired...

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-22 09:57 AM | Reply

More than likely the "ghosters" applied to multiple jobs, accepting the ones they get offered, and if offered more elsewhere they commit to that

#14 | Posted by Itchy at 2021-10-22 02:22 PM | Reply

More than likely the "ghosters" applied to multiple jobs, accepted the ones that offered progressively higher pay, and committed to the job that offered the most.

Can't blame anyone for ghosting or not showing up when that's how applicants were treated for the past years. HR/companies ghosting candidates left and right and now shocked that they are being ghosted by candidates.

It's a major shift for companies to have to cough up the $ for talent and candidates, but that's what needs to be done in this climate. You have to be at/near the top of the pay scale. What's more expensive? Paying someone a little bit more or having to turn away work because you don't have the workers?

And that doesn't even start to factor in the large cost of having to replace existing, tenured, employees who leave for higher pay elsewhere.

#15 | Posted by Itchy at 2021-10-22 02:28 PM | Reply

Considering how companies routinely "ghost" applicants, they can suck it.

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-22 08:21 PM | Reply

"You don't need a college graduate to operate a cash register
#1 | POSTED BY BBQ"

With our public school system? There is no guarantee that a high school grade is even at basic levels of understanding for math or English. Hell, many college grads still lack these basic skills.

Also, a college degree proves you can show up and follow directions for 4 years - when it comes to hiring entry level work, those are the most critical skills an employer need.

At the end of the day, people will show up and the job continues as normal. If not, the job will automate or the business will need to otherwise adapt or fail. Nothing new there at all. The only thing new is the higher level of government handouts to incentivize people not to work. Take Snoofy as an example, until the local marijuana dispensary has 100% of his money, Snoofy will not look for a job. So, it is just a matter of time before more people like him either demand more government handouts or go begging for jobs.

#17 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-22 08:40 PM | Reply

you can show up and follow directions for 4 years - when it comes to hiring entry level work, those are the most critical skills an employer need.

This is why I'm all in favor of a Year of Service, or revamped CCC, or whatever Stanley mcchrystal is selling: www.serviceyearalliance.org

#18 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-10-22 08:54 PM | Reply

"#18 | POSTED BY GONOLES92"

I am fine if the government has you dig a ditch and the next guy in line fills it back in - infinitely preferable to having people collect handouts for not working.

#19 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-22 09:04 PM | Reply

Glad to hear you're supporting the return of the Civilian Conservation Corps Goatman unless of course you're all talk.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-22 09:32 PM | Reply

I interviewed for a warehouse job right when Covid was breaking out originally. Flake that interviewed me couldn't even tell me what the position paid. I'm still waiting to hear if I got that job or not.

Had 2 jobs since then, and about to transfer to a 3rd.

#21 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-10-22 11:01 PM | Reply

"The only thing new is the higher level of government handouts to incentivize people not to work."

I know - people living high on the hog in places like AZ where unemployment checks top out at $240/week...

#22 | Posted by Itchy at 2021-10-22 11:42 PM | Reply

"The only thing new is the higher level of government handouts to incentivize people not to work."

I know - people living high on the hog in places like AZ where unemployment checks top out at $240/week...

#23 | Posted by Itchy at 2021-10-22 11:42 PM | Reply

"Had 2 jobs since then, and about to transfer to a 3rd.
#21 | POSTED BY A_MONSON"

I have a serious question for you - how old are you?

If you are over 21, having 3 jobs in the spans of less than 2 years is not normal - maybe, you are doing something that makes employing you very difficult for the employer? I am not trying to attack you here and I think you are fairly typical of the long time leftist posters on this board.

Do you have a college education?
What was your longest term with any company?
When you change jobs, is it because of the employer or yourself?
Over the last 5 years, how much did you see your income increase, assuming it did?
Do you have any notable skills with which you use to apply for better paying, more stable jobs?

I am actually very curious on this. I have my own assumptions for how you will answer, assuming you answer truthfully, but I think it could be a very valuable discussion for this board to have.

#24 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-23 01:08 AM | Reply

Skeptical is Ira Goldberg. No doubt in my mind.

#25 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-23 01:02 PM | Reply

#25
Correctamundo.

He's got more "tells" that a rookie poker player wearing mirrored glasses.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-23 01:08 PM | Reply

"What was your longest term with any company?"

I have a feeling, for some posters here, it's with UNICOR.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-23 01:15 PM | Reply

Skeptical is Ira Goldberg. No doubt in my mind.
#25 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Who were you before you were EffetePoser?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-23 01:16 PM | Reply

I'm the original effeteposer, I never posted as anyone else.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-23 01:24 PM | Reply

You were around when Ira was around? That's too bad.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-23 01:34 PM | Reply

Why? I got the benefit of Ira's wit and wisdom.

#31 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-23 01:41 PM | Reply

And I suppose you still are!

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-23 02:05 PM | Reply

Stoogical has been retired from rig-monkeydom since they cut off his feet.

#33 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-23 02:57 PM | Reply

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