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Tuesday, October 26, 2021

At least five former Trump administration staffers have voluntarily spoken with the House committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, CNN has learned.

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Throw that fat loser in prison where he belongs.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-10-26 05:55 PM | Reply

Some people are afraid. Good. If enough become terrified of what their association with Trump will do to them the Orange Bastard is going down at last.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2021-10-27 07:56 AM | Reply

Ray Epps went from group to group, on January 5, telling them to go into the Capitol the next day. On January 6, he led the first breach. Epps is an Arizona native and rancher, a retired Marine Sergeant and is affiliated with the Oath Keepers. Ray Epps was one of the first break through police lines and enter the Capital and can be seen on many videos of that day encouraging and rabble rousing the mob.

Ray Epps is also an FBI Asset and CI.

AG Merrick Garland refuses to comment on how many agents or assets of the federal government were present in the crowd on Jan 5th and 6th and how many entered the Capitol.

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 09:49 AM | Reply

"AG Merrick Garland refuses to comment on how many agents or assets of the federal government were present in the crowd on Jan 5th and 6th and how many entered the Capitol."

What would you have him do?
You want him to say "Valerie Plame is one of our undercover agents" like Dick Cheney did?

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 09:54 AM | Reply

"Ray Epps is also an FBI Asset and CI."

Yeah, so?
Are you saying the feebleminded Deplorables were cowed into storming The Capitol?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 09:55 AM | Reply

The FBI creates a lot of the "threats and crime" they then "solve".

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 09:58 AM | Reply

Is that a "yes" to Deplorables being tricked by the FBI, then?

Did they trick you too, into supporting Stop The Steal? Do you realize that's garbage now?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 09:59 AM | Reply

Apparently you were tricked into thinking the "insurrection" was an existential threat to the Federal Government.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 10:07 AM | Reply

Did you duck the question on your own, or did you get tricked into ducking the question?

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 10:10 AM | Reply

"Apparently you were tricked into thinking the "insurrection" was an existential threat to the Federal Government."

The insurrection was, roughly speaking, analogous the Reichstag Fire.

The existential threat was the legal plan hatched by Trump's advisors. The plan that had Mike Pence refusing to certify the election, and throwing the Election to the House, where Trump is declared President.

Are you denying the existential threat, or are you distracting from it?

You tell us, Visitor_. You're a man. Speak up.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 10:21 AM | Reply

I can't give you an honest answer because I don't know. It's entirely possible the "insurrection" was like that sketch where it turns out everyone is an FBI agent.

All I'm willing to say with relative certainty is that the mob was seeded with an unknown number of agents provocateurs.

Some were members of AntiFa/BLM and some were FBI. It's entirely possible that the AntiFA/BLM instigators were also FBI.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 10:21 AM | Reply

It's entirely possible the "insurrection" was like that sketch where it turns out everyone is an FBI agent.

In a boundless universe where time and light meet and bend, where the pixies laugh away, unconstrained by such trivialities as notions of "light years," let alone "possibilities," yeah, sure, why not? But down here, on planet Earth? Fuhgedaboudit.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2021-10-27 10:29 AM | Reply

"I can't give you an honest answer because I don't know."

Then go read the memo, it's only two pages:
www.cnn.com

Do you see an existential threat to the Federal Government there, or do you see a perfectly legal and non-threatening installation Trump as President?

There is no in-between, Visitor_

Don't be an Eberly. Pick a side.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 10:37 AM | Reply

Doc, you're probably right since most of the largely peaceful mob look like a bunch of tourists wandering around taking pictures.

#14 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 10:37 AM | Reply

Since it's CNN, I'd have have an expert analyze to document to determine if that font existed prior to Jan 6.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 10:44 AM | Reply

Really, you're denying the authenticity of the Eastman Memo? en.wikipedia.org

Here is Eastman, taking credit for the memo.
talkingpointsmemo.com

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 11:07 AM | Reply

So, answer the question.

Is the Eastman Memo an existential threat to the Federal Government, or is it a perfectly sound legal strategy to keep Trump in office, in accord with the principles of this nation?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 11:08 AM | Reply

You maybe thinking of the Federal Government as a good thing worth preserving. A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 12:07 PM | Reply

Sorry Snoofy, didn't answer your question. No I don't think this memo was a credible threat. It represents outlier legal views that were never acted upon. Who requested this memo and what were the details of that request? For all we know he is part of the false flag operation to discredit Trump.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-10-27 12:17 PM | Reply

Sorry Snoofy, didn't answer your question. No I don't think this memo was a credible threat. It represents outlier legal views that were never acted upon. Who requested this memo and what were the details of that request? For all we know he is part of the false flag operation to discredit Trump.

#19 | Posted by visitor_

Never acted upon? Then why the ---- was trump getting his murderous mob to demand mike pence DO EXACTLY WHAT THE MEMO SAID HE SHOULD DO TO KEEP TRUMP IN POWER?

Moron.

Trump TRIED to follow the plan in the memo, but he failed just like he fails at everything else.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-27 12:43 PM | Reply

You maybe thinking of the Federal Government as a good thing worth preserving. A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.

#18 | Posted by visitor_

A valid argument could be made for cutting off your own balls - you'll never have to worry about getting testicular cancer. Does that make it a good idea?

Red states would fail so fast and hard in your fantasy it would be hilarious. You'd all turn in to fascist theocracies within a decade.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-10-27 12:45 PM | Reply

Here is Eastman, taking credit for the memo.
talkingpointsmemo.com

I read the National Review article last week. They don't support Trump per say, but won't go out of their way to nail him either. But even this interview/article was really showing Eastman as guilty.

Then the video comes out.

I really don't know if these guys (Trump, Guliani, Eastman, etc.) are crazy, or just will do anything to gain power. It's really too close to call.

Even scarier, I just saw a poll today that 35% want the 2020 election to still be overturned. WTF.

#22 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-10-27 01:50 PM | Reply

"No I don't think this memo was a credible threat. It represents outlier legal views that were never acted upon. "

Come on. That's like saying the loaded guns on the Rust set were not a credible threat until they were fired.

"Who requested this memo and what were the details of that request? For all we know he is part of the false flag operation to discredit Trump.

The author of the memo is on tape discussing his memo.
Watch the video in my second link, here it is again.
talkingpointsmemo.com
You think that is false flag?

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 02:16 PM | Reply

You maybe thinking of the Federal Government as a good thing worth preserving. A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.
#18 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Oh, I get it.
You're a Confederate.
Well, that explains everything.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-27 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.

#18 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Thank you for confirming every evil thing I have ever thought or said about you.

Fascist.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2021-10-28 07:53 AM | Reply

A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.

#18 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

A more purely un-American statement is of course impossible.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2021-10-28 07:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A QAnon streamer whose incendiary rants accusing Democrats of running a pedophile cabal earned him thousands of followers and led to his deplatforming on YouTube has been revealed to be a registered sex offender.

David Todeschini, who goes by the name David Trent on his Net4Truth -------- channel, was convicted of one count of first-degree sexual abuse and one count of second-degree ------, according to the New York sex offender registry.

The conspiracy theorist was 45 years old in 1996 when he coerced and sexually violated an 8-year-old boy. Todeschini was convicted a few years later and sentenced to 28 months to 7 years in state prison. He was released from prison in 2006 and has gone on to make a name for himself in the QAnon community.

www.criminaljustice.ny.gov


#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2021-10-28 12:50 PM | Reply

Ray Epps is also an FBI Asset and CI.

Yawn.

No matter how hard you --------- try you're no going to ever be rid of the stench of being unpatriotic morons who bought into a conman's lies.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2021-10-28 01:57 PM | Reply

So Visitor_ fully outs himself as an unpatriotic 1/6 supporting pile of garbage.

Not that it wasn't already suspected...

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2021-10-28 02:03 PM | Reply

#29 I haven't seen him offer any support for what happened on 1/6.

As for this investigation...given that Kevin McCarthy wasn't allowed to select a single member and given the Schiff is on the committee whatever they come up with will have a partisan taint.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:23 PM | Reply

A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.

#18 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Yes we know comrade. Deplorables favor reviving the Lost Cause because they lost the election. And they and you are still crying about it. Poor babies.

You and your deplorable friends have been arguing for destroying America since American was born.

Your predecessors tried to tear us apart once and failed.

You will fail again. Because the Lost Cause is still just that.

A Lost Cause being revived by Losers.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-10-28 02:29 PM | Reply

A valid argument could be made for dissolving the Federal Government and allowing the 50 states to form independent nation states.
#18 | POSTED BY VISITOR

An America hating Russian's dream come true.

Why do you want to destroy America?

Reagan made a monkey out of Gorbachev and you've never forgiven the west for destroying the USSR?

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-28 02:32 PM | Reply

"As for this investigation...given that Kevin McCarthy wasn't allowed to select a single member"

Liar.

Yes he was. And he decided to not support a bipartisan committee.

And yet there are two Republicans on the committee.

We will get to the truth. In spite of you losers.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-10-28 02:32 PM | Reply

#33

There are 2 Republicans on the committee (Cheney and Kinzinger) and they were chosen by Pelosi, not McCarthy.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:34 PM | Reply

As for this investigation...given that Kevin McCarthy wasn't allowed to select a single member and given the Schiff is on the committee whatever they come up with will have a partisan taint.

What are you talking about?

Republican John Katko had a bipartisan committee picked out and it was agreed upon.

Guess who weaseled out of that agreement? LOL

You are so misinformed.

#35 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-10-28 02:36 PM | Reply

Yes he was.

No, he wasn't. He picked members of his party for the committee and Pelosi told him she wouldn't accept those individuals and she goes on to put Adam Schiff on the committee.

By preventing McCarthy from being able to put members on the committee she turned what could have been regarded as a serious bipartisan investigation into a highly partisan investigation that lacks legitimacy.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:37 PM | Reply

given that Kevin McCarthy wasn't allowed to select a single member

"Why aren't the criminals allowed to select their own jury!!"

-Trumpers

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-28 02:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republican John Katko...is not the minority leader.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:38 PM | Reply

He was put in charge of putting it together LOL

It was nixed by McCarthy at the end because they don't want the evidence to come out.

He also didn't expect the Dems to agree to the bipartisan committee (meaning McCarthy)......so he only had one option. Vote it down then say it's a biased committee.

The Dems have zero to hide. I can't say the same for the R's.

I mean, how embarrassing to have your leader make up a false story because he lost.

#39 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-10-28 02:42 PM | Reply

"He picked members of his party for the committee and Pelosi told him she wouldn't accept those individuals"

TWO of those individuals. The two potential members who might be called to testify. THREE could've stayed, but QEVIN pulled them.

You don't get to say "Pelosi wouldn't accept" when she was willing to accept THREE, and would've had three, had Qevin not withdrawn them.

And...I don't know why I have to say this, but...THREE IS NOT ZERO.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 02:43 PM | Reply

#39 McCarthy went on to choose who he wanted to be on the committee and Pelosi nixed his selections.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:43 PM | Reply

"By preventing McCarthy from being able to put members on the committee..."

You're lying. Just. Flat. Out. Lying.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 02:44 PM | Reply

#40 If she was going to dictate whom he could and couldn't place on the committee then yeah, I would have pulled the others as well.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:45 PM | Reply

#42 Did Pelosi tell McCarthy that she wouldn't allow one of his choices? Yes or no.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:46 PM | Reply

BTW - she rejected 2 of his choices - Banks and Jordan.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 02:47 PM | Reply

There's one consistency to everything that makes up BellRinger's political identity:

He is always the victim.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-28 02:50 PM | Reply

McCarthy went on to choose who he wanted to be on the committee and Pelosi nixed his selections.

Who gives a shht.

Trumpers crying because they're going to be held responsible for inciting an insurrection is music to my ears.

Cry more Trumper!

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-10-28 02:51 PM | Reply

Got to hand it to McCarthy, guy almost gets accosted by Trump's thugs, gets belittled by Trump on the same day phone call, and the guy still slurps up to him.

Man, that power thing must be real.

#48 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-10-28 02:55 PM | Reply

" ... she rejected 2 of his choices - Banks and Jordan."

And 5 minus 2 equals ... .

Zero, or Three?

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:02 PM | Reply

#49 I just punched that equation into my calculator. It comes out zero.

It's 3.

Do you understand why he'd be pissed that she told him he could place whom he wanted on the committee but then turnaround and say, I don't like those guys, they can't be on the committee.

If she truly wanted it to be bipartisan he should have been allowed to seat whomever he wanted.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 03:06 PM | Reply

" Do you understand why he'd be pissed that she told him he could place whom he wanted on the committee"

Why do you have to leave out the salient part every time? Do you think you could put in the second half of that agreement, or are you trying to be purposely disingenuous?

And nothing changes the fact that Pelosi accepted three of them, and then McQarthy withdrew them.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:09 PM | Reply

"I just punched that equation into my calculator. It comes out zero."

Welcome back, Vernon! You'll be happy to hear an entire political party has adopted your type of math. In this case, 1+1+1 equals ... Say it with me folks ... Zero!

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:11 PM | Reply

" If she truly wanted it to be bipartisan he should have been allowed to seat whomever he wanted."

McQarthy's choice was McQarthy's choice. It's moronic to blame Pelosi for something that was 100% McQarthy's doing. Moronic and cowardly.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:13 PM | Reply

"Do you understand why he'd be pissed that she told him he could place whom he wanted on the committee but then turnaround and say, I don't like those guys, they can't be on the committee."

It's because, like you, he needs to be the victim, in order to validate his outlook on life.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-28 03:16 PM | Reply

" Did Pelosi tell McCarthy that she wouldn't allow one of his choices? Yes or no."

Did Pelosi tell McCarthy that she would allow three of his choices? Yes or no.

FFS, dude, give it up. Qevin had the chance to keep three, and nominate two more sensible people. For LOTS of obvious reasons, he whined and said if he can't name potential witnesses, he'll take his committee and go home.

If you have to pretend we're living in a world where those possibly called as witnesses can be part of the judging panel, just admit you're an idiot; it'll save us a lot of time.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:32 PM | Reply

McCarthy should have been allowed to choose whomever he wished. He wasn't. That's on Pelosi. She nixed two of his choices.

Also, what is this committee hoping to accomplish that the FBI - with considerably more resources and has presumably been investigating this for over 10 months - can't accomplish.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 03:35 PM | Reply

give it up. Qevin had the chance to keep three, and nominate two more sensible people.

People who only Pelosi would approve. She has no evidence whatsoever that Banks or Jordan are potential witnesses. This thing is clearly partisan theater.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 03:36 PM | Reply

"McCarthy should have been allowed to choose whomever he wished."

That wasn't the deal, was it?

You keep leaving out the other half of the deal, don't you?

You won't admit witnesses should NOT be serving on that committee, will you?

"That's on Pelosi. She nixed two of his choices."

She kept three of his choices. He nixed them. McQarthy also passed on nominating replacements, another choice of Qevin's. So once again, The Party of Responsibility is blaming others for the options Republicans chose.

Effin' pathetic.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:40 PM | Reply

"People who only Pelosi would approve."

Who's robbing this train, you or Jesse?

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-28 03:40 PM | Reply

"People who only Pelosi would approve"

She already approved three. Are you saying there aren't two more Qevin could've nominated in the entire Republican ranks???

Oh, I'm sorry...Liz and Adam, you had your hands raised???

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:41 PM | Reply

"She has no evidence whatsoever that Banks or Jordan are potential witnesses."

You're making that up.

Why are you claiming something you couldn't possibly know for a fact???

#61 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you understand why he'd be pissed that blah blah blah blah
#50 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I don't give one single flying ---- whether a seditionist traitor and enemy to the United States is "pissed." But you do you, loser.

#62 | Posted by JOE at 2021-10-28 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#62 Are you angry, Bro?

#63 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 04:30 PM | Reply

Epic response bro! I love seditionists now!

#64 | Posted by JOE at 2021-10-28 04:36 PM | Reply

As if your #62 was such an intelligent comment.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 04:40 PM | Reply

Benghazi!!!

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-29 08:51 AM | Reply

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