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Wednesday, October 27, 2021

Even if the rival factions compromise and pass Mr Biden's legislation, Democrats will still probably lose their congressional majority next year. Mid-term elections since 1934 have typically produced a backlash against parties occupying the White House; they have lost an average of 28 seats in the House and four in the Senate in those contests. The Democrats' current advantage will vanish if they lose four seats in the House and one in the Senate.

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Even if the rival factions compromise and pass Mr Biden's legislation, Democrats will still probably lose their congressional majority next year. Mid-term elections since 1934 have typically produced a backlash against parties occupying the White House; they have lost an average of 28 seats in the House and four in the Senate in those contests. The Democrats' current advantage will vanish if they lose four seats in the House and one in the Senate.

Longer-term trends also paint a dire picture for the Democrats, especially in the Senate. For half a century they have been losing support among rural voters and gaining in the cities. This has packed their voters into metropolises in coastal strongholds, such as California and New York, as well as smaller cities in states where Republicans outnumber them, such as Florida, North Carolina and Texas. Less-populated conservative states like Idaho and Wyoming remain reliably Republican. Because each state has the same number of senators, the chamber gives Republican voters a disproportionate number of seats.

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Wrong. Their only disadvantage is inaction and wanting the other side to like them. Their default setting is to do nothing.

#1 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-10-27 08:28 PM | Reply

"Their default setting is to do nothing."

That's probably not a bad position if doing something would cost them additional votes.

#2 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-10-27 09:10 PM | Reply

Once something is done it's hard to undo if the bill is crafted right. The Dems should pass as much as they can given the likelihood of losing the majorities in Congress.

Worrying about losing is dumb. Worry about governing while the time is right.

If the majority is lost at least the bills will be law going forward.

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-10-28 12:54 AM | Reply

#3 that would require simply ending the filibuster and restoring true democratic rule. Hahahaha....

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-10-28 02:54 PM | Reply

The Dem disadvantage is that the people remember how great the Trump economy was prior to the pandemic. The Dem disadvantage is that the people remember Biden saying that he would stop covid and his continual failures. The Dem disadvantage is that the people remember Biden promising illegals free health care, rescinding Trump's policies to keep people in Mexico and now the border is broken.

The problem is people remember Democrat promises to return to 'responsible government' when the reality is they govern like a bunch of 5 years olds on a sugar high. They see the Pelosi and Biden as the aged buffoons that they are and no matter how much the MSM tries to 'polish the turd' - the people still recognize it as a turd.

The Democrat disadvantage is that they only know how to run AGAINST TRUMP - not run FOR THEIR POLICIES.

#5 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-28 07:48 PM | Reply

LOL. The GOP literally has no platform. Just a pledge of loyalty to Trump.

Your complaint about the Democrats applies better to Republicans.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-28 08:06 PM | Reply

"Your complaint about the Democrats applies better to Republicans.
#6 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

The reality is that the more people learn about the Dem platform, the more they dislike the Dems. People don't like race based programs and the really don't support paying $450,000 to lawfully detained illegals - but, that is what the Dems are giving them.

#7 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-28 08:13 PM | Reply

" paying $450,000 to lawfully detained illegals"

Could you link to proof? You have a bad history with claims and commas.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 08:22 PM | Reply

"Could you link to proof? You have a bad history with claims and commas.
#8 | POSTED BY "SQUIRTS" DANFROTH, GED"

Here you go Squirts.

www.forbes.com

#9 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-28 08:24 PM | Reply

"Squirts."

Skeptical was losing an argument about ivermectin, so he claimed it had "no known side effects". It turns out he got caught in a bald-faced lie, and rather than take responsibility, he blames the one who outed his lie.

So, gentle reader, Skeptical wants to remind you: he'll lie at the drop of a hat.

He's also had problems distinguishing 7.4 million from 74 million, because of, well, you know ... commas.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 08:40 PM | Reply

"GED"

Fascinating ... you can't post without lying, can you?

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 08:41 PM | Reply

" Here you go"

Oh, I see: Biden is settling lawsuits based on Trump's decisions.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 08:45 PM | Reply

"Oh, I see: Biden is settling lawsuits based on Trump's decisions.
#12 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

You lie, but you don't see Squirts. Biden is paying lawfully detained illegals $450,000/head for being caught breaking the law. About $1B so far if this nonsense goes through. I see how you want to sweep this under the rug because you know how the American people will respond to this nonsense.

#13 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-28 08:51 PM | Reply

"Biden is paying lawfully detained illegals $450,000/head for being caught breaking the law"

You're purposely misrepresenting these folks filing suit were illegally separated from their families ... by the Trump administration.

You can't handle the truth: Trump's illegal behavior is the basis of the lawsuits. You want to blame Biden, for what Trump did.

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 08:57 PM | Reply

"You can't handle the truth: Trump's illegal behavior is the basis of the lawsuits. You want to blame Biden, for what Trump did.
#14 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

Stop lying Squirts. State the law that Trump broke for this lawsuit - oh, no law was broken? Then stop lying and saying 'illegal' but it is not. The only illegal here are the illegal aliens caught illegally crossing the border. Stop lying.

#15 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-28 09:06 PM | Reply

Riiiiiight, Because all lawsuits are based on legal behavior. And who's behavior, ImaSchitturd? Trump's, or...Trump's?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 10:54 PM | Reply

The thing is nobody forced them to come here illegally.

The Biden administration is not only completely tone-deaf but flat-out incompetent.

Look at the optics - this administration created a crisis at the border and are now considering paying some illegal border crossers nearly $1 million (separation involves at least 2 people) per family.

That is a huge incentive for even more people to come.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 11:02 PM | Reply

From ImaSchitturd's link:

"The immigrant families were separated after crossing the border from Mexico to claim asylum in 2017 and 2018 as part of the Trump administration's "zero-tolerance" policy. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), among others, have filed lawsuits against the government alleging that the thousands of children and parents impacted by the policy have mental health effects from the prolonged trauma."

Trump's actions. ACLU and others filing lawsuits. Nothing illegal?!?

Biden is cleaning up Trump's mess. and Ima Schitturd is gaslighting.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 11:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Look at the optics - this administration created a crisis at the border "

Read the article: This is TRUMP's chosen crisis. The Dems are just stuck with the cleanup.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 11:12 PM | Reply

#19 So, Biden reverses successful policies like remain in Mexico (Biden undid other policies as well). He advertised in advance the actions he was going to take. He created a HUGE incentive for people to flood the border illegally and they did just that and it's somehow Trump's fault?

Please expound on that because as it's currently written it is absolutely an insane take.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 11:52 PM | Reply

BTW - when Biden laid out in advance the actions he was going to take regarding the border just about anyone with a pulse warned it would result in a massive surge and likely humanitarian crisis. And here we are

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-28 11:53 PM | Reply

"and it's somehow Trump's fault?"

Look at these particular lawsuits. ALL BASED ON TRUMP'S DECISIONS.

Put down that water; you'll get a hernia carrying so much.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-28 11:54 PM | Reply

#22 OK. I see where you are coming from. We weren't speaking to the same thing.

Trump's decisions resulted in the lawsuits. The Biden DOJ is making a decision to possibly capitulate and award payments in lieu of letting these lawsuits play out in court. Dems could just let this play out in court. In fact, that's probably what should be done. There isn't anything to clean up. The Biden administration has made a choice to possibly intervene by settling these lawsuits. That they are considering it across the board in a cookie-cutter fashion suggests this is a political decision as each case has some differences.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 12:07 AM | Reply

"In fact, that's probably what should be done."

Of course you're willing to second-guess Biden's response to Trump's F-up.

Remember when you condemned Trump's initial F-up? NO ONE ELSE DOES EITHER.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 12:10 AM | Reply

#24 I don't see it as a F-up. Again, nobody forced them to come here illegally. I could see a lawsuit potentially if they were detained in holding facilities at 700% capacity, or something like that.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 12:12 AM | Reply

This is the one allegation that caught my eye:

"Lawyers representing the children in lawsuits allege that children were subjected to malnutrition and provided little medical attention at these facilities."

Once in our custody basic essentials have to be expected and if the basics aren't met then I can certainly see some liability. Again, this should play out in court.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 12:16 AM | Reply

"I don't see it as a F-up."

NO WONDER no one has filed suit.

Oh wait...

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:06 AM | Reply

"Once in our custody basic essentials have to be expected and if the basics aren't met then I can certainly see some liability."

IOW, time to blame Biden for Trump's F-ups.

#28 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:09 AM | Reply

NO WONDER no one has filed suit.

Oh wait...

#27 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 01:06 AM

Filing suit doesn't automatically equate to a F-up. If it did, in every lawsuit the prosecution would have nearly a 100% conviction rate.

IOW, time to blame Biden for Trump's F-ups.

#28 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 01:09 AM

As it pertains to these lawsuits the only blame I place on the Biden administration is getting involved in the first place. We have courts for a reason. Let the process play out.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 01:33 AM | Reply

"Filing suit doesn't automatically equate to a F-up"

True. But it usually alleges illegal behavior, which was the issue. Ima Schitturd kept claiming no illegality.

"As it pertains to these lawsuits the only blame I place on the Biden administration is getting involved in the first place."

Yeah, the "US" as a defendant wouldn't really involve the US, would it?

/s

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:43 AM | Reply

" the only blame I place on the Biden administration"

Isn't that cute? A member of The Party of Responsibility shows his true colors. Trump's illegal behavior = Biden's screw-up.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:45 AM | Reply

"Trump's actions. ACLU and others filing lawsuits. Nothing illegal?!?
#18 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

No, nothing illegal is alleged. I will promise you that this is a nonsense suit and IT WILL BLOW UP IN THE DEMS FACES IF THE DO THE PAYOUT.

So Squirts - is your issue not understanding what the word illegal means or that you can't actually read the article? Maybe we can have Snoofy transmit the article to you via interpretive dance, maybe you can understand it then.

#32 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-10-29 01:45 AM | Reply

"nothing illegal is alleged"

You're a lying sack of Ima Schitturd. Foisting malnutrition onto charges is NOT legal.

"Squirts"

Yes, you got caught in a lie about ivermectin. You were losing a debate, and got desperate, as you always do.

You also got caught in a lie about Uttar Pradesh and its vax rates.

You also got caught in a lie about VEARS, stating they'd claimed over 8,160 deaths were "as a result of" vaccines, when the truth was 3. (Note: the site itself warned of idiots coming to that conclusion)

You got caught in a lie about 74 million people being vaccinated in one part of India, and claimed it was only 7.4 million. When confronted, you blamed the commas.

Now you've been caught claiming no law has been broken, when the lawsuits from multiple entities clearly allege behavior not in line with the law. So you're either lying, or you're gaslighting.

BUT THANKS FOR REMINDING ME TO REMIND OTHERS.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:53 AM | Reply

"GED"

LIE

AKA, SOP f' POS

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:55 AM | Reply

"is your issue not understanding what the word illegal means"

No. The issue is you don't believe starving your charges is against the law. So you're gaslighting.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:58 AM | Reply

Isn't that cute? A member of The Party of Responsibility shows his true colors. Trump's illegal behavior = Biden's screw-up.

#31 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 01:45 AM

What we have are allegations. So far, nothing has been proven as being illegal behavior. If illegal behavior is proven in court then award damages and move on.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 02:01 AM | Reply

"What we have are allegations."

OF TRUMP'S SCREW-UPS. And you're dogging on Biden for the mess he has to clean up.

But let me guess: once again, you're going to demand solid proof against an (R), but the mere whiff against a (D) makes you go apoplectic, even without a scintilla of proof (or lawsuits; see CF).

You're the king of double-standards.

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:10 AM | Reply

"If illegal behavior is proven in court..."

Whose illegal behavior?

And who's cleaning up?

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:11 AM | Reply

Biden isn't cleaning up anything. Let this play out in the courts. It's really very simple.

You're the king of double-standards.

#37 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 02:10 AM

Quite the contrary. I'm being consistent.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 02:14 AM | Reply

"Biden isn't cleaning up anything."

Just because you don't want to admit Trump created the mess doesn't mean Biden isn't cleaning up after Trump.

Don't gaslight like the rest. This carp is right in front of our eyes. If Trump hadn't F-d up, Biden wouldn't be having to clean up.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:17 AM | Reply

"I'm being consistent. "

Well ONE of your personas isn't. That one is convinced the Clinton Foundation is corrupt without proof, while this one won't admit Trump's F-ups, even as the clean-up crew works overtime.

"The Bellringers" need to talk to both sides of their face, and come up with one decision.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:20 AM | Reply

Just because you don't want to admit Trump created the mess doesn't mean Biden isn't cleaning up after Trump.

Don't gaslight like the rest. This carp is right in front of our eyes. If Trump hadn't F-d up, Biden wouldn't be having to clean up.

#40 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 02:17 AM

I am open to the possibility that some of these people were mistreated thus constituting a F-Up. The proper place for adjudicating this is court, hence the lawsuits. Biden isn't cleaning up. His team is actually interfering a bit with the process. This is why we have a judiciary. The Executive branch took actions against people who entered illegally and these people have sued for mistreatment and mental anguish due to familial separation. Fine. Have at it. Let the courts figure it out on a case-by-case basis.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 02:41 AM | Reply

" Let the courts figure it out on a case-by-case basis."

Oh, so muck up the courts with backlogs. Will that be your next reason to blame Biden for Trump's F-ups?

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:54 AM | Reply

#37 - "You're the king of double-standards.

#37 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

LOL

Something Danforth should say to a mirror, not to anyone on the Drudge Retort.

#44 | Posted by jakester at 2021-10-29 02:56 AM | Reply

Oh, so muck up the courts with backlogs....

#43 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-10-29 02:54 AM

Yes. This is why we have a judicial branch. Separation of powers.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-10-29 03:06 AM | Reply

"The reality is that the more people learn about the Dem platform, the more they dislike the Dems."

Again, this can only apply to Dems, because Republicans don't even have a platform. All they have is loyalty to Trump.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-29 08:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans don't even have a platform. All they have is loyalty to Trump.

#46 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

They've endorsed the Fuhrer Princip. Central to any fascist movement.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2021-10-29 08:57 AM | Reply

#47 - Absolutely accurate and true statement.

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2021-10-29 08:57 AM | Reply

"Something Danforth should say to a mirror"

Only small minds discuss people, Goatman.

Even smaller ones live a lie, while accusing others of dishonesty.

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 12:11 PM | Reply

#49 - "...Goatman"

[me looking around for this creature] Oh! There he is. Still living rent free inside Danforth's head. It looks like he's trying to leave, but can't. Kind of like the Hotel California.

#50 | Posted by jakester at 2021-10-29 12:36 PM | Reply

And Mr. Small Mind keeps discussing people.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:13 PM | Reply

#51 - Um, like you just did? LOL

At least the people I discuss are real and are external to my head. They are not a goat/human hybrid

#52 | Posted by jakester at 2021-10-29 01:18 PM | Reply

Their biggest disadvantage is not enough liberals and too many progressives. If the Democrat party was to return to their liberal roots, they'd be an unstoppable force.

#53 | Posted by jakester at 2021-10-29 08:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"If the Democrat party was to return to their liberal roots"

^
That means the Pre Civil Rights Era Democrats.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-29 08:56 PM | Reply

Stop acting like the western white male does not have a racism problem.

#55 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-10-30 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Stop acting like the western white male does not have a racism problem."

How about western white females?

#56 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-10-30 05:32 PM | Reply

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