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Wednesday, October 27, 2021

Michele L. Norris: Claudette Colvin was 15 years old when she was arrested in Montgomery, Ala., and placed on indefinite probation, after refusing to vacate her seat on a bus so a young White woman could sit down.

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She's still on probation??????????????????????????????

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-28 12:08 AM | Reply

Ghost of George Wallace still in hallways of government.
He pushes the whites only water fountain button and the stream shoots through him.

#2 | Posted by LesWit at 2021-10-28 12:27 AM | Reply

That's crap. I knew she was black just from the thread title.
Stuff like that doesn't happen to us white folk.

Bless this lady. That couldn't have been an easy thing to do in that period of time.

#3 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-10-28 01:01 AM | Reply

Racism ended in 1865.

- You know who.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-28 07:05 AM | Reply

Got into a discussion with an acquaintance and they were lamenting how society looks down on people that tell racist, homophobic or sexual jokes nowadays. How back in the "good old days" we could joke about someone being a f-g or a n*****r or a dumb woman and "no one took it personally".

I asked him how he knew no one took it personally. His answer was a look of utter dumbfounded amazement that I knew he had no answer.

Did you ask everyone personally if they were offended?

Do you think that maybe someone might have been offended?

Do you think that maybe someone was struggling to come out of the closet and let their true selves shine and in that moment of telling them a homophobic joke that they decided it would be best to not come out? Maybe that person who is struggling finds it too much to bear and they kill themselves.

I told him that when we make a joke of someone's identity it just a step down the path to denying them their rights to be who they are. Red lining minorities so they pay higher car payments, insurance payments and mortgage payments is down that path...maybe even pushing a new car or a home out of their reach....forcing them into the losing game of paying rent instead of building equity in a home which for most middle class Americans is the single biggest source of wealth to be passed onto the next generation and locking their kids and grandkids into a cycle of poverty.

It may be a joke to him. But maybe to another person it is an excuse to treat them badly. To deny them their rights.

This is just another form racism that should have ended in 1865. We should have had to fight a war in our own nation to give freedom to people that live here. It should have never been allowed to flourish in this nation that is supposed to be founded on the idea that all people are created equal. How could that lie be held as a truth when people were being stolen from their families and sold as free labor in this nation. It was a myth then and it is still a myth now. Until every person matters as much as the next, it will never be true.

This nation has been built on a history of white people stealing from minorities their land, their money, their labor and to this day their lives. This nation should do better and can do better.

#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-28 07:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

*We shouldn't have had to fight a war....

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-10-28 07:26 AM | Reply

perfect candidate for a Presidential Pardon.

#7 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-10-28 10:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

She sure is an uppity one!

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-10-28 11:07 AM | Reply

NIXON-Great posts!

#9 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2021-10-28 11:10 AM | Reply

perfect candidate for a Presidential Pardon.

#7 | POSTED BY EARTHMUSE AT 2021-10-28 10:23 AM | FLAG:
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That has to have been a federal crime in order to earn a presidential pardon, but the governor of Alabama could pardon her, not that the racist old bag would do that for a woman of color.

#10 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-10-28 03:00 PM | Reply

That eye will haunt my dreams

#11 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-28 04:53 PM | Reply

That eye will haunt my dreams

#11 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-10-28 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Stop that!

I refuse to laugh. This is a serious story!

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2021-10-28 10:45 PM | Reply

she didn't stab, rape, or rob anyone why is she still on probation?

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2021-10-29 12:08 AM | Reply

Inspiring story. Too bad it's slanted so poorly in the headline and fact reporting of this opinion.

One more time, never, ever, rely on journalists to accurately report or opine on legal matters.

No, Ms. Colvin is not still on probation. Juvenile court jurisdiction ends when the child reaches majority. Was she told that, probably not. Was a formal ordered entered ending the probation, probably not.

However, one of Ms. Colvin's lawyers succinctly sums it up; "Colvin was placed on "Indefinite probation" for the police officer assault conviction and was never informed that her probation ended when she became of age, her attorney, Phillip Ensler, told CNN.

"So she thought she's been on probation this entire time," Ensler said."

A little more digging before opining is wise.

#14 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-29 01:10 AM | Reply

""So she thought she's been on probation this entire time," Ensler said."

It sounds like Ms. Colvin is the only person understanding the word "indefinite".

"A little more digging before opining is wise."

D'you think they bothered to tell her?

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 01:13 AM | Reply

It sounds like Ms. Colvin is the only person understanding the word "indefinite".

Seems neither she nor you understand the word "jurisdiction." Thus my point, lay persons don't intuitively understand the nuances of law so their opinions on such are due a grain of salt.

D'you think they bothered to tell her?

See "Probably not."

#16 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-29 01:33 AM | Reply

"Seems neither she nor you understand the word "jurisdiction.""

She was told "indefinite", and was never told otherwise after that point. How is this her fault, when the courts didn't see fit to properly finish the sentence with the words they now expect her to have understood?

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:06 AM | Reply

How is this her fault ...

Her and your misunderstanding? It's probably not.

Yet, why is fault for the misunderstanding important? The probation misunderstanding is the headline, and maybe one sentence, of an opinion about the life of a person who should be held out as an icon. Give Ms. Colvin her due. Skip the crapola.

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2021-10-29 02:44 AM | Reply

" why is fault for the misunderstanding important? "

If the powers that be told her "indefinite", it should be incumbent on those powers to update her.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-10-29 02:52 AM | Reply

Paywall

#20 | Posted by jakester at 2021-10-29 10:28 PM | Reply

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