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Thursday, November 04, 2021

Chris Cillizza: There's been a lot of grumbling and finger-pointing among Democrats in the wake of the loss of the Virginia governor's race and a razor-thin win in New Jersey's gubernatorial contest. But, no one offered a more cutting -- and honest -- assessment of exactly what happened than Virginia Rep. Abigail Spanberger in an interview with The New York Times.

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Biden was elected to NOT be Trump. Sad, but that is really all it seems to have come down to. We were all sick and tired and fed up with the non-stop hatred and divisiveness of Trump. We wanted somebody, anybody, who would make that go away. For most people, Biden's agenda was simply to not be Donald Trump.

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-11-04 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

It was a winning campaign strategy but has been a horrible governing strategy.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-04 02:13 PM | Reply

The reality is, Biden has never been any great inspiring leader. He came up in the aftermath of Obama. And even then he opted not to run in 2016 because he knew he could not beat out HRC for the nomination. As a Democrat running for national office truly the only thing he had going for him was that he is not Trump, AND he is not an 80-something year old Jewish quasi socialist from Vermont. Biden really has very few outstanding qualities in his own right. Which ironically is why I believe that if the GOP nominates a MODERATE Republican in 2024 they will regain the White House. No Hawleys or DeSantis' or Graham or Nunns. Somebody well distanced from the shadow of Trump.

#3 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-11-04 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

* Nunns was meant to be Cruz's in the above post.

#4 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-11-04 02:35 PM | Reply

Biden should have listened to the American voters of 2016 and 2020 and conceded to Bernie.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-11-04 02:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#1 is right, 'not Trump' was the only thing that mattered last year. Until we're not forced to chose the least worst candidate we'll never get out of this mess.

#6 | Posted by qcp at 2021-11-04 02:50 PM | Reply

We'd be in even worse trouble if Bernie was POTUS.

Politicians need to stop thinking they have mandates at all. We're not a homogenous country where a win means you've got a vast majority of support.

And "progressives" need to stop thinking they can transform our society in one fell swoop everytime they're elected because the GOP is so distasteful (which is, let's be honest, the only way they gain a majority).

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-04 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Biden was elected to NOT be Trump. Sad, but that is really all it seems to have come down to. We were all sick and tired and fed up with the non-stop hatred and divisiveness of Trump. We wanted somebody, anybody, who would make that go away. For most people, Biden's agenda was simply to not be Donald Trump.

#1 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2021-11-04 01:58 PM | REPLY

Quit pretending like there wasn't a better candidate to elect. But no! She wouldn't base her entire platform on "Trump Bad!"When shorty didn't work out, it was only then that Obama pulled his support and shifted it to Biden. All the while they shouted down the only candidate that had any scruples.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-04 03:58 PM | Reply

No Hawleys or DeSantis' or Graham or Nunns.

Unlike democrats, republicans kowtow to their base. Trump or a Trump acolyte (assuming Trump is in serious legal jeopardy or behind bars) will be the republican nominee.

#9 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2021-11-05 05:43 AM | Reply

Biden was elected to NOT be Trump. Sad, but that is really all it seems to have come down to. We were all sick and tired and fed up with the non-stop hatred and divisiveness

How'd that work out? Did the divisiveness go away yet?

Turns out that you have to confront criminal agitators head-on, and electing a do-nothing weakling is the worst possible way to go about that.

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-05 07:49 AM | Reply

They won't fight for rule of law, are overly concerned about"bipartisanship" with bomb throwers and people who seek to destroy the whole system for partisan advantage in the short term. Then they wonder why people are disillusioned.

Either that or the elites have manufactured consent for a dictatorship and the public is too preoccupied with nonsense like social media to stop it.

I think it's both.

#11 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-11-05 10:30 AM | Reply

Biden's been successful. Just because the conservative media has to make up story lines and narratives to support the insane republiclown posse that is owned by Trump, doesn't mean it's true.

He is righting the ship, with a solid 28% lunatic constituency doing everything they can to prevent that from happening. Everyone underestimates stupidity, and that may be his main flaw - he thinks he's dealing with rational people in the Repubican Party, but there are none. They've all gone full Trump.

Look at the jobs numbers - good.
Look at the economy - ok, given we just lost 700K people and shut down the country for a year.
Look at the vaccination numbers - excellent among sentient non-cult members.
Look at our standing in the world - no stories about secret meetings with the Kremlin, no foreign leaders laughing at our POTUS in public.

All of this ginned-up nonsense is getting old. Chris Cilizza is a right wing hack.

#12 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-05 11:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"Nobody elected him to be F.D.R., they elected him to be normal and stop the chaos," said Spanberger.

Unlike FDR, Biden is not governing with considerable Democratic majorities in the House and Senate. (During the mid-1930s, Democrats controlled more than 300 House seats and as many as 76 Senate seats!)

Given Biden's experience, I don't think it's him who's misread the mandate. The ideologues in his party misread it, and rather than fight them he's decided to let them fail.

#13 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-11-05 12:55 PM | Reply

If Biden hadn't run on lip service to "govern like FDR"... without the promises to work on student debt, climate change, etc., Biden would not have won. These issues were the main reasons progressives and young voters showed up. Tuesday proved that Democrats are now running a huge risk that these same voters won't show up in the future. The future is so bleak they're going to be inclined to keep their heads down and stay home.

Hell! Thanks to new Republican voting laws, Republican control of the courts, and the Dems incompetence at doing anything about keeping fair elections, Republicans are probably going to control this country for the rest of my life.

Democrats have been so short sighted, cautious and capitulating for the last 40 years that the game is about over. Within just a few years, the U.S. is going to fall to fascist authoritarianism. In the battle for control of our nation, Republicans have been playing a long game of chess, while the Democrats play checkers.

#14 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2021-11-05 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Capitulating? By listening to the disaffected, the down-trodden, the frankly best of humanity? While Republicants have sold this country to the highest bidder using racist tropes and outright lies?
You want to make America great again? Put a bullet in a billionaire's brain.

#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-05 02:30 PM | Reply

Given Biden's experience, I don't think it's him who's misread the mandate. The ideologues in his party misread it, and rather than fight them he's decided to let them fail.

It wasn't the "ideologues in his party" that misread anything, either, unless you're talking about 2 of the 50 Democrats in the Senate who have chosen to f up his whole agenda. The Repubican Party screamed and whined about bipartisanship and then just took their ball and went home. Most of the alleged failures of Biden fall at the feet of Repubicans and the 2 Democrats that needed to feel important. Nobody misread the mandate. The mandate isn't the problem. How to get the mandate to happen is where he miscalculated - at some point, maybe, Biden will realize that there are no "Good" Repubicans. You can't work with them, there are none who operate in "good faith." They are all suckling at the Trump teat and not a single Repubican can be trusted to do what is right for the country. It's sad to watch.

#16 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-05 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All of this ginned-up nonsense is getting old. Chris Cilizza is a right wing hack.

#12 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Yeah! What a rightwing hack this guy is!

Christopher Michael Cillizza (/slz'/; born February 20, 1976)[1] is an American political commentator for the television news channel CNN. Prior to joining CNN, he wrote for The Fix, the daily political blog of The Washington Post, and was a regular contributor to the Post on political issues, a frequent panelist on Meet the Press, and was an MSNBC political analyst. Cillizza is also a co-host of The Tony Kornheiser Show sports podcast.[2][3] In April 2017, Cillizza began working for CNN, including writing and onscreen appearances.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-05 04:43 PM | Reply

Hopefully Kamala Harris NEVER gets annointed DNC candidate for presidency. She is worse than HRC.

#18 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-11-05 07:44 PM | Reply

Who knew Moder8 was a closet Trumper?

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-05 08:37 PM | Reply

"They are all suckling at the Trump teat "

You're saying even the ones who voted to impeach and convict him are all suckling at Trump's teat. Either you don't see the contradiction, or you're not even trying to make sense.

#20 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-11-05 11:15 PM | Reply

"These issues were the main reasons progressives and young voters showed up. Tuesday proved that Democrats are now running a huge risk that these same voters won't show up in the future."

Younger voters are notoriously unreliable when it comes to showing up, regardless. Ditto on purity progressives.

#21 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-11-06 12:05 AM | Reply

purity progressives.

Redundant.

That idiot from Washing --------- or whatever her name is, is STILL tanking the infrastructure bill.

------- "progressives" are worthless.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-06 12:40 AM | Reply

#22

Careful there, JPW...

You might just find yourself someday languishing in a re-education camp. Next to some Trump supporter.

If you're not with them, you're against them.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-11-06 09:13 AM | Reply

The contempt JPW shows for progressives is not based anything but his own bias against them.

It it wrong to hold Biden to promises made to get elected? If he ------- lied about his agenda that's relevant to my vote. I never would have voted for him based on his past record.

He said a lot of pretty things about helping the people in our increasingly savage society, much about making the playing field more equitable for all.

No follow through. He scuttled all of it at the least resistance because he never intended to pass any of it in the first place.

Corporate and "centrist Dems think progressives are "unreliable". Progressives think the corporate Dems are liars, and harbor the obvious contempt for them that JPW so clearly shows.

So far they have been proven correct. So why the hell should they vote for people who despise and lie to them?

The Democratic party is too big of a tent. The progs should just abandon the lying centrists so they never win again.

Trump at least kept some of his promises, even if they were stupid.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-11-06 12:38 PM | Reply

"It it wrong to hold Biden to promises made to get elected?"

If that's all you can do, then yeah.
Not so much wrong, as hopelessly short-sighted.
Look at what was delivered. Is it close? Is it better than the alternative?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-06 12:51 PM | Reply

"Trump at least kept some of his promises"

But not all. And that doesn't bother you.
But when Biden doesn't keep a promise, it really bothers you.
Hmmm... Are you a Trumper? Sure seems like you're a Trumper. You certainly have a Trumper's double standards.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-06 12:52 PM | Reply

But not all. And that doesn't bother you.
But when Biden doesn't keep a promise, it really bothers you.
Hmmm... Are you a Trumper? Sure seems like you're a Trumper. You certainly have a Trumper's double standards.

#26 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-11-06 12:52 PM

You're not doing your brand any favors. LoL, you're basically saying its ok to not meet your advertised obligations as long as you'r not on the other side.

#27 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-06 01:10 PM | Reply

I hate liars no matter where they're found. I was iffy about Biden from the jump. Trump is an obscenity as a man and a politician. Biden is in thrall of the corporate Dems and I knew it when I voted for him as a lesser evil.

"Normal" in this country is not an improvement for many. Normal is wages too low to survive on for millions of people who work hard every day.

Normal is no health care, or crippling debt for millions of good people while corporations make bank off of their misery and premature deaths.

Normal is War, as policy and the first choice in diplomacy. Normal is sanctions on nations just living their own ideals so American business can intrude on and disrupt their societies.

I didn't vote for "normal" I voted for something different. Joe Biden is too old to change. Donald Trump is too corrupt to see anything beyond his next grift.

Business as usual will destroy our biosphere's resilience and our own future. Everybody keeps saying how urgent the environmental collapse is.

Actions speak louder. Nobody acts like it's even happening, much less urgent or a real threat to our lives and continued stability.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-11-06 01:58 PM | Reply

Biden sucks as a President.

Bernie was snubbed twice so we could sit here for four years and watch the Republican Party slowly roll out fascism across the nation.

Oh yea. What happened to Kamala Harris?

Is she hiding from the public?

What a worthless minority hire.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-11-06 02:01 PM | Reply

The only things Democrats have done is throw a fashion show during Biden's inauguration.

Which Bernie dominated by clearly not giving a shht.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-11-06 02:08 PM | Reply

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