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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, November 10, 2021

"It's one thing to say that allegations should be investigated, and they were; it's another to say that we should have foreseen in advance that some people were lying to Christopher Steele, which is impossible, of course, to do."

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Speaking of low IQ ... .. do you have the lowest IQ at the Ruskie troll farm?
Asking for a friend ... ...

#1 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-11-10 06:02 AM | Reply

She's a typical piece of republican s**t, isn't she? Snide and a total ------.

#2 | Posted by YAV at 2021-11-10 09:20 AM | Reply

"He went on to say that "we couldn't have known" that people were "lying" to Christopher Steele so it was "proper to investigate" the claims that Trump was compromised by the Russians."

And here is verifiable proof that so many Liberals just don't understand the problem. The problem isn't that Liberals couldn't have known, the problem is that Liberals NEVER EVEN ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT that what was going on wasn't true. You didn't "investigate" anything prior to accepting it, you just accepted it as if the allegations were already true. And there is ample evidence, even from me on this board during the whole thing, talking about how Liberals never actually stopped to think that maybe it wasn't true. Your hate and TDS is at such high levels that you can't stop for a minute to think logically and clearly.

Instead of investigating the claims to ensure they were legit, Liberals ran with it like God itself wrote it. This is the problem facing America from the illogical and/or extremists on both sides. They both are so accepting of any allegations that could damage the other side that they don't even care to ensure it's real and factual first. The media even joined in on this in the 21st century where they went past lying and bias, they report anything as soon as they hear it and don't try to validate it first. It's happened from both sides multiple times and no one can deny it because both sides are quick to call it out when it does happen, and both sides of media outlets have had to retract many statements.

In other words, the problem isn't getting any better. Politicians have done this ever since I was alive and now the people have allowed the one aspect of our society that is supposed to call them out, the media, to thrive. If any of you would actually think objectively for once, you can easily understand this.

#3 | Posted by humtake at 2021-11-10 11:50 AM | Reply

#3 you're not saying bad things about the other side, so this whole take is stupid.

#4 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-11-10 12:17 PM | Reply

And here is verifiable proof that so many Liberals just don't understand the problem. The problem isn't that Liberals couldn't have known, the problem is that Liberals NEVER EVEN ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT that what was going on wasn't true.

#3 | Posted by humtake

Yeah because trump's campaign manager was caught giving polling data to putin. So we knew it was true.

And trump obstructed justice 10 times to stop the investigation. So we knew it was true.

And everyone around trump lied to the FBI about it. So we knew it was true.

You're left clinging to whatever part of the investigation couldnt be proven, in order to avoid talking about all the parts that were proven, or were successfully hidden from investigation, like trump's financial ties to putin.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Instead of investigating the claims to ensure they were legit, Liberals ran with it like God itself wrote it. This is the problem facing America from the illogical and/or extremists on both sides.

#3 | Posted by humtake

"BOTH SIDES."

One side: Trump was colluding with putin and we know it because his campaign manager was caught giving polling data to putin and trump obstructed justice to hide it.

The other side: Jewish space lasers are starting wildfires and gill gates is putting mind control microchips in vaccines.

Yup. Clearly this is a "both sides" problem.

Idiot.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 01:19 PM | Reply

He got schooled and then spewed lies as if they were truth. The guy is a tool.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-10 01:47 PM | Reply

He basically said the Steele Dossier contained some lies but those lies were immaterial. Which is ridiculous.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-10 01:48 PM | Reply

"He got schooled and then spewed lies as if they were truth."

Speaking of lies as if they were the truth, why did Team Trump claim over and over they had NO contacts with Russians, while it's been proven they had over 100 contacts with Russians?

And what was Don Jr's meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower, if not an attempt at collusion, at the very least?

And why didn't the Trump campaign tell the FBI of contacts with the Russians, after having been instructed to do so by the FBI?

Ultimately, if the FBI was surveilling Russians, and Trump campaign operatives kept showing up. Should the FBI have kept recording, or turned the surveillance off?

And finally, if the FBI had gone to both campaigns and warned about Chinese influence, and instructed the campaigns to notify the FBI if approached by the Chinese, and HRC claimed over and over her campaign had NO contact with the Chinese, while the FBI knew differently, and Huma Abadeen (-sp?) gave sensitive DNC polling data to an underling of Xi...and HRC won by a handful of votes in a few key states...

...would you be okay if the FBI didn't investigate, or not?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 01:57 PM | Reply

"He basically said the Steele Dossier contained some lies but those lies were immaterial. Which is ridiculous."

What lies were material?

And does that change what happened, or is this just another chapter of You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 01:58 PM | Reply

How long are you going to cling to the Steele Dossier?

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-10 02:00 PM | Reply

The whole document has been completely discredited.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-10 02:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

"The whole document has been completely discredited."

No it hasn't. You're just parroting the OANs of the world.

What, specifically, were the material lies which changed what happened?

And what of the conclusion the SD had "no impact" on opening the investigation?
thehill.com

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 02:04 PM | Reply

"How long are you going to cling to the Steele Dossier?"

Depends. How long do you plan to play You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!?

And why won't you address the specific questions I've asked three times now? Is it because it undermines your "hoax" narrative???

#14 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

He basically said the Steele Dossier contained some lies but those lies were immaterial. Which is ridiculous.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

Trump's campaign was colluding with putin. There is abundant proof.

Finding some part of the steele dossier that isn't accurate doesn't dismiss any of that. The steele dossier is not the heart of russiagate. But your cult has to act like unless the steele dossier was flawless then that proves the entire russiagate was a hoax. The steele dossier didn't make trump obstruct justice. The steele dossier didn't make trump rewrite the republican platform to please putin. The steele dossier didn't make trump lie to the investigators and the public. The steele dossier didn't make trump share campaign data with a hostile nation that wants to destroy america.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 02:36 PM | Reply

Schiff is auditioning to be next Speaker of the House. Obviously.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-11-10 02:48 PM | Reply

MODER8

"Schiff is auditioning to be next Speaker of the House."

Only if Pelosi retires and there's no sign of that. Otherwise they're a team and you don't break up a winning team.

Anyway, I think you have your wires crossed. It's Kevin McCarthy who is doing the auditioning. So far he's 1 for 2. He did a great job for Trump on January 6th but dropped the ball on the Infrastructure Bill.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-11-10 03:11 PM | Reply

The Dossier is gossip. It's paid for oppo research and had absolutely no business ever being used as any kind of predicate in an investigation. Schiff lied about it's origins and that it was exhaustively used by the FBI.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-10 03:30 PM | Reply

The Dossier is gossip. It's paid for oppo research and had absolutely no business ever being used as any kind of predicate in an investigation. Schiff lied about it's origins and that it was exhaustively used by the FBI.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger a

Parts of it have been confirmed parts of it have been disproven.

Moment of truth time - do you think the steele dossier was the only evidence in the russia investigation, and without it, the entire case falls apart?

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The problem isn't that Liberals couldn't have known, the problem is that Liberals NEVER EVEN ENTERTAINED THE THOUGHT that what was going on wasn't true.
#3 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE"

I wish they would have at least left behind my article commentary even when they insist on changing my headline as that was the best part of this - this is not the problem you identified.

This is Schiff lying right to their dumb Democrat faces and daring them to call him a liar. No one believes that he didn't know it was a lie - they had proof in the author's lies to the FBI, Cohen denying the Prague trip, the Miami consulate not existing, the hotel room for the 'pee tape' not existing, their own investigators forging documents, and don't believe for 1 second Schiff didn't know this document was paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

This is Schiff telling the Democrats right to their dumb faces that he lied to them then and has no problem continuing to lie to them now because they are such mindless sheep he faces no repercussions because of it.

#20 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 06:56 PM | Reply

This is Schiff telling the Democrats right to their dumb faces that he lied to them then and has no problem continuing to lie to them now because they are such mindless sheep he faces no repercussions because of it.

#20 | Posted by Skeptical

Yes we know how intolerant the trump cult is of lies.
You demand absolute truth from power and if you dont get it, you withdraw all your support.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 07:05 PM | Reply

"we know how intolerant the trump cult is of lies."

You can always tell the hypocrites: they still hang on the the old Republican talking points.

"Schiff telling the Democrats right to their dumb faces that he lied to them"

Republicans prefer to stay in the dark, I guess....

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 07:14 PM | Reply

"had absolutely no business ever being used as any kind of predicate in an investigation"

IOW, it boils down to You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!

It must be nice to keep ignoring the investigations which concluded the Steele Dossier had nothing to do with opening the investigation. In fact, there were LOTS of reasons to open investigations. I can think of a hundred of them off the top of my head.

Which reminds me: Do you have direct answers to my direct questions, or do the answers decimate your "hoax" pretense beyond repair?

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 07:18 PM | Reply

IOW, it boils down to You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!

It must be nice to keep ignoring the investigations which concluded the Steele Dossier had nothing to do with opening the investigation. In fact, there were LOTS of reasons to open investigations. I can think of a hundred of them off the top of my head.

Which reminds me: Do you have direct answers to my direct questions, or do the answers decimate your "hoax" pretense beyond repair?

#23 | Posted by Danforth

Exactly.

With russiagate, repubs are obsessed with making the point that trump's colluding with hostile tyrants should never have been discovered or investigated.

Just like with the election, they're obsessed with making the point that the election was fraudulant because democrats made it too easy for some people to vote.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 07:44 PM | Reply

Schiff is auditioning to be next Speaker of the House. Obviously.


Ironically, so is Donald J. Trump

#25 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-10 07:44 PM | Reply

"Yes we know how intolerant the trump cult is of lies.
#21 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

So you are no different from the 'Trump cult'? Okay, got it.

#26 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 07:50 PM | Reply

"IOW, it boils down to You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!
#23 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

And which wrongs were those as it relates to Russian Collusion? Your biggest hairball seems to be over Manafort giving publicly available polling data to a private Russian citizen.

Sorry, but I think that pales in comparison to the Clinton campaign actively seeking out foreign agents (British, Ukrainian, and Russian) to make up whole cloth lies about Trump and then use their connections to the intelligence services to start CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION predicated on a document everyone knew was fake.

You want an equivalent?

Remember that Ukrainian phone call you got your panties soiled over? Well, imagine if before the call, Trump had Don Jr. pay one of his frat brothers to make up fake financial records and other stories directly showing Biden received $10M in cash from Burisma - but instead of telling everyone that they were made up by his kid - he passed them to the DNI as credible documents which they then used to start an investigation into Biden's business dealings? I think your head would explode but that is the equivalent to what happened in Russiagate.

#27 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 07:59 PM | Reply

The Trump Party is full of s--t as always. The Steele "dossier" was always, and always will be, just a bunch of notes...not vetted for accuracy, and released during a time that every person associated with Trump during the campaign was meeting with and talking to Russians. Followed closely by every person who was meeting with and talking to Russians lying about it.

The Trump Party probably knew that sections of the memos were lies, because the Russians told them...it is a good bet that Deripaska was actually planting disinformation via conversations Steele was having with Russians in the know. Their whole argument in defense of Comrade Trump is that the Steele "dossier" contained some unvetted and inaccurate information, therefore their favorite traitor was completely absolved of ANY and ALL wrongdoing because some memos got leaked to the press and were possibly not true. Their whole defense hinges on this.

Liberals did not base their entire argument about the Russia connections to the Trump Party campaign on what Steele uncovered, like the wingnuts here seem to want to argue. There's no point rehashing 5 years of verifiable truth and evidence, just because some components of the "dossier" were proven to be Russian disinformation. Even if we were to make the claim that the whole thing lacks credibility, it literally does. not. matter. Traitor Trump and his followers are so disconnected from reality that I stopped arguing with you all years ago. Can't have a rational argument with people who are divorced from reality.

I still can't wait to see the pee pee tape.

#28 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-10 08:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm seeing a lot of "What abouts" and "What ifs" in those arguments, SKEPTICAL.

Russian propaganda techniques that have been adopted by the fascist right wing in America...so interesting how that happened.

#29 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-10 08:13 PM | Reply

"The Trump Party is full of s--t as always. The Steele "dossier" was always, and always will be, just a bunch of notes...not vetted for accuracy"

That is not how you or the MSM presented it - and the FBI should have 100% rejected it if it was presented as such. No, this is your hindsight rationalization so you, personally, don't feel like such a dumbass for actually believing the lies and repeating them for 4 years. This is the coping mechanism you are using to deal with the fact that Schiff is RIGHT NOW lying straight to your dumb Democrat face but you are not man enough to call him out on it.

"Liberals did not base their entire argument about the Russia connections to the Trump Party campaign on what Steele uncovered,
#28 | POSTED BY CHUFFY""

Correct - they also lied about Carter Page and set up Papadopolous as a stooge. Again, refer to my comment above why you are okay with that now.

You don't need any more rationalization than that - you were lied to and at some point, even you figured out that fact. But, after 4 years of blindly shouting the same talking points, you don't want to admit that you were part of the unwashed masses that the Dem elites lie to with zero fear of repercussions because you are so weak willed and weak minded that you will never consider voting for anyone except the person the Democrat party tells you to.

#30 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 08:20 PM | Reply

A timeline for you all so we can skip the inevitable inaccuracies, straight up lies and complete fabrications coming from the DR Traitor Trump Party about the Steele memos.

#31 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-10 08:20 PM | Reply

So you are no different from the 'Trump cult'? Okay, got it.

#26 | Posted by Skeptical

I'm SKEPTICAL when I hear complaints about lies, from a member of THE CULT OF LIES.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 08:23 PM | Reply

You are welcome to go back to my posts about Russia on this here site to check your accuracy on how "I" presented it. Like I said, 5 years of evidence and facts is a lot to rehash. I've been here on the DR for a very long time, so maybe you should check your assumptions before you make blanket statements that you can't back up or defend.

Hitch your wagon to reality and maybe we can talk.

#33 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-10 08:23 PM | Reply

You don't need any more rationalization than that - you were lied to and at some point, even you figured out that fact. But, after 4 years of blindly shouting the same talking points, you don't want to admit that you were part of the unwashed masses that the Dem elites lie to with zero fear of repercussions because you are so weak willed and weak minded that you will never consider voting for anyone except the person the Democrat party tells you to.

#30 | Posted by Skeptical

You mean we'll never consider voting for anyone who's joined fascist cult. So democrats are the only option left.

When you're done whining about the details of how trump's treason was discovered, would you like the discuss the facts that he was colluding with putin to get elected, doing special favors for him, obstructing justice to hide it, and lying to the country about it?

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 08:25 PM | Reply

www.intelligence.senate.gov

I guess the Republican Senate is part of the democratic party machine.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-11-10 08:35 PM | Reply

"When you're done whining about the details of how trump's treason was discovered,
#34 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

And right here is where you again prove you are 100% okay with that piece of Schiff lying straight to your dumb Democrat face. That Piece of Schiff admits it was a bucket of lies - he just claims he was too stupid to ever think someone would lie to him. You, on the other hand, are stuck on stupid over the original lie not even being able to internalize that even the piece of Schiff just told you everything he said previously was a lie.

I don't think there is hope for you - you are the low IQ voter base that the Dem elites count on.

#36 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And right here is where you again prove you are 100% okay with that piece of Schiff lying straight to your dumb Democrat face. That Piece of Schiff admits it was a bucket of lies - he just claims he was too stupid to ever think someone would lie to him. You, on the other hand, are stuck on stupid over the original lie not even being able to internalize that even the piece of Schiff just told you everything he said previously was a lie.

I don't think there is hope for you - you are the low IQ voter base that the Dem elites count on.

#36 | Posted by Skeptical

Schiff admitted that parts of the steele dossier could be corraborated and others were disproven. As he said YEARS AGO if you consumed real news you'd know that.

You want to start discussing the actual crime instead of crying that someone called the cops?

Trump was colluding with a hostile nation to get elected, giving that hostile nation the ability to blackmail and control him. You've spent ZERO time focusing on that threat to our nation, and spend every day instead crying about how we should never have found out about it.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-10 09:04 PM | Reply

"Schiff admitted that parts of the steele dossier could be corraborated and others were disproven. As he said YEARS AGO if you consumed real news you'd know that."

The part that there is a person named Donald Trump? Yes, corroborated. The fact that he did any of the things specifically claimed in the Dossier? Uncorroborated. Steele made specific allegations and none of them are true. Pee tape? Nope. Cohen trip to Prague? Nope. Stop lying to yourself at the very least.

"You want to start discussing the actual crime instead of crying that someone called the cops?"

And which crime was this because we have had a SP and 2 impeachment trials and not yet 1 shred of evidence of collusion with the Russian government or Putin on the election?

"Trump was colluding with a hostile nation to get elected, giving that hostile nation the ability to blackmail and control him."

Blackmail him by having a pee tape? Seriously? Look at Hunter's laptop filled with actually true - along with highly illegal and embarrassing acts caught on video. It is like a "Girls Gone Wild" tape except it is "Crackhead Gone Wild".

"You've spent ZERO time focusing on that threat to our nation, and spend every day instead crying about how we should never have found out about it.
#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Russia is a threat? If you honestly believed that for a second you would then have to admit that Biden's debacle in Afghanistan, his diversity campaign for the military, and the fact that his energy policies have enriched Russia would all be terrible things as they weaken us.

The greatest gift anyone could have given Russia is oil over $80/barrel - and Biden gave it to Putin on a silver platter. Is Biden Putin's stooge or is Biden just incompetent? We will have to get Hunter's bank account details to answer that question.

#38 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-10 09:18 PM | Reply

We will have to get Hunter's bank account details to answer that question.

#38 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

LOL. Hunter Biden Hunter Biden Hunter Biden. LOL

You have nothing. And never will.

Biden is President. And probably will be for 8 years.

Trump will probably flee to Russia before it's all over.

How long will you sore losers (looking at you too Ding Dong) cling to Trumpy's debunked lies?

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-11-10 11:48 PM | Reply

" And which wrongs were those as it relates to Russian Collusion?"

Well, that depends on whether you believe you should be lied to over 100 times.

You seem to bash on the Dems for swallowing lies ... what's YOUR excuse?

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 11:48 PM | Reply

" Look at Hunter's laptop filled with actually true ..."

Oh please.

Hunter Biden's laptop has more chain-of-custody problems than a gun on an Alec Baldwin set.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-10 11:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Hunter Biden's laptop has more chain-of-custody problems than a gun on an Alec Baldwin set.

#41 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2021-11-10 11:54 PM

Kinda feels like it falls into this category:

You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-11 12:35 AM | Reply

"Biden is President. And probably will be for 8 years.
#39 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY"

He will be lucky to make it 4. The only thing stopping him from resigning now due to his declining mental state is the fact that Kamala is such a disgusting person that she has an approval rating lower than Dick Cheney and Hunter still has not finished his art sales.

#43 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 12:36 AM | Reply

"#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER"

Squirts is really gonna hate that comment.

#44 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 12:42 AM | Reply

"Kinda feels like it falls into this category: You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!"

Nonsense.

There are two places where there is NOTHING: One, any proof of anything on a laptop with a shoddy chain-of-custody...

...and two, your direct answers to my direct questions. For the fifth time...why no answers? Do they undermine your "hoax" lie that badly?

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 12:46 AM | Reply

"#45 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

The Steele Dossier tried to hide its chain of custody and its sources were mainly anonymous despite having clearly debunked information - and you gobbled it right up.

The Hunter laptop is not even disputed by Hunter, has video evidence, and has email correspondence confirmed by those on the sending/receiving end.

More than "You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!", it seems you are more of a "I prefer to have my head up my arse" kinda guy.

#46 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 12:52 AM | Reply

"Squirts "

Which reminds me...

Skeptcal was losing a debate, badly, and got caught lying about the side effects of ivermectin, claiming there were "no known" side effects. In truth, mild side effects included diarrhea and nausea, while worse effects included severe allergic reactions, seizures, and loss of consciousness. And recently, health experts in NM announced two people had died as a direct result of taking ivermectin.

Basically, "Squirts" is a reminder I outed Skeptical as a serial liar. Why anyone would keep drawing attention to a time he had his ass handed to him is beyond me. But I guess that's the life of a paid liar.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 12:54 AM | Reply

How much criminal collusion did Mueller uncover?

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-11 12:54 AM | Reply

Danforth,

Honestly part of the problem (and I'm sometimes guilty of it too ) is that you view some of these discussions more as a gotcha competition than an actual discussion.

#49 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-11-11 12:57 AM | Reply

"The Steele Dossier..."

Had NOTHING to do with opening the Russian investigation.

"The Hunter laptop is not even disputed by Hunter, has video evidence, and has email correspondence confirmed by those on the sending/receiving end."

You wouldn't accept that chain-of-custody if it were regarding Trumps records, why are you falling for Lev and Igor this time???

"More than "You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!"

Again, even Horowicz admitted the SD had nothing to do with opening the Russia investigation. And any honest broker would admit they'd want the FBI to investigate if the shoes were on the other feet. Can you be honest?

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 12:57 AM | Reply

"Honestly part of the problem (and I'm sometimes guilty of it too ) is that you view some of these discussions more as a gotcha competition than an actual discussion."

Aw...what's the matter? The direct questions AT THE CENTER OF THE ISSUE seem like "gotcha" questions? GEE, I WONDER WHY???

"How much criminal collusion did Mueller uncover?"

Why are you moving the goalposts to a place where 100+ lies from the Trump campaign to America is AOK?

And why are you pretending no investigation was predicated when one of the campaigns disobeyed a direct instruction from the FBI, followed by the FBI noticing contact after contact while surveilling Russians, and added to the fact Team Trump WAS LYING TO AMERICA about their contacts.

We both know for a fact your head would've exploded had HRC won with similar Chinese help, especially if the FBI had declined to investigate. Do you have standards, or just double-standards?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:03 AM | Reply

"You wouldn't accept that chain-of-custody if it were regarding Trumps records, why are you falling for Lev and Igor this time???
#50 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH,GED"

Hmmm...so, did you accept the stolen Trump tax records as factual despite its completely missing chain of custody? I would bet Squirts was a Rachel Maddow clone thumbing through them gleefully and touting them to be 100% accurate. Why the double standard Squirts?

#52 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 01:21 AM | Reply

"did you accept the stolen Trump tax records as factual despite its completely missing chain of custody?"

Reporters saw the chain of custody of Trump's taxes and jumped at the byline.

Meanwhile, the NY Post and others saw "the evidence", and "the chain of custody", and ran as far and as fast as they could, including the reporter REFUSING A FRONT-PAGE BYLINE.

How many other front-page bombshells get passed on by unknown reporters???

For most folks with room-temperature IQ or better, those facts alone would scream THIS IS MORE BOMB THAN BOMBSHELL.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:27 AM | Reply

"and touting them to be 100% accurate."

Something Trump admitted when he filed suit against Mary Trump.
www.businessinsider.com

Good God, you just look dumber with every post, don't you?

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:29 AM | Reply

"SQUIRTS DANFROTH,GED"

I always get a kick when folks who can't seem to use a space bar think they're smart.

Right, Fredo?

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:31 AM | Reply

"Right, Fredo?
#55 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

I always get a kick when someone so hates the nickname that they earned tries desperately to assign a nickname to someone else in a futile attempt to lessen the burn they feel each time they are referred to by said nickname.

Right, Squirts?

#56 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 01:36 AM | Reply

You tell me, Ima Schitturd.

But why keep bringing up getting outed as a desperate liar?

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:39 AM | Reply

"the nickname that they earned"

By outing you as a shameless liar?

Some achievement board you've got there, Schitturd.

Do you count getting caught in lies about Uttar Pradesh and VAERS as high accomplishments as well?

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:41 AM | Reply

"DANFROTH, GED"

Aw...isn't that cute? He actually DOES know how to use a space bar...once he's been corrected.

#59 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 01:42 AM | Reply

#56 | POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

So you hate "------- ---- moron bitch"?

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-11 02:07 AM | Reply

"#59 | POSTED BY SQUIRTS DANFROTH, GED"

You know, I would probably stop calling you Squirts if you didn't get all riled up and rage post 3-4 posts at a time out of frustration. I tell you this knowing full well that you cannot control your rage posting any more than you can control your sphincter leading to your irrational fear of the squirts. So, embrace your nickname - hell, get a custom license plate.

#61 | Posted by Skeptical at 2021-11-11 03:14 AM | Reply

DANFORTH

You're too valuable a poster here to squabble with a stink bomb thrower like Skeptical. Please rise above.

#62 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-11-11 05:58 AM | Reply

You're too valuable a poster here to squabble with a stink bomb thrower like Skeptical. Please rise above.

#62 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

SKEPTICAL is a fanatic with a list of Democrats in his neighborhood to kill once Trump installs the Caliphate.

He doesn't love this country. He's in love with some fascist fantasy of this country. That love will never be shaken, even when Trump's pee tape is at last broadcast over the internet.

SKEPTICAL wants Trump to be nasty. He wants his movement to be nasty. And bloody.

#63 | Posted by Zed at 2021-11-11 07:50 AM | Reply

POSTED BY SKEPTICAL

You seem to have this idea that Donald Trump can be treated unfairly. Let's pass over for a moment that he appears to have screwed almost everyone he has personally met. Let's focus on the reality he attempted a coup against the United States. That makes him an enemy in the old-fashioned sense of the word. He deserves what any enemy gets.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2021-11-11 07:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's a cure for SKEPTICAL on the Stats Page.

The unlucky #13 is still available.

#65 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-11-11 08:26 AM | Reply

Hey Adam, still waiting for that concrete evidence you said you had. Oh wait, you told and are telling the press and the American people you have it but under oath in a closed door hearing you said you didn't. Total lying snake.

#66 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 08:35 AM | Reply

#63 Hey Moron, it was proven to be made up. Don't make yourself to be a bigger idiot than you already are.

#67 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 08:38 AM | Reply

#63 Hey Moron, it was proven to be made up. Don't make yourself to be a bigger idiot than you already are.

#68 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 08:38 AM | Reply

FISHPAW

Untrusty posters like yourself need a link for things you claim. Your word is no good.

#69 | Posted by Twinpac at 2021-11-11 08:41 AM | Reply

The Dossier is gossip. It's paid for oppo research

The Jeff Rule: The only probative research in the world is done for free.

had absolutely no business ever being used as any kind of predicate in an investigation

Trump's DOJ disagrees with you.
www.justice.gov

#70 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-11 08:53 AM | Reply

FISHPAW
Untrusty posters like yourself need a link for things you claim. Your word is no good.

#69 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2021-11-11 08:41 AM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

All I need to do is point to Shifty, he is the one who claims he has the evidence but for 5 years has not been able to produce it. And why don't you produce the pee tape you say is around? You are the one making the claim, you prove it's right. Don't ask me to prove your unverified claim is wrong.

#71 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 10:35 AM | Reply

#69 Here you go bonehead. The Washington Post no less. And tells you you shouldn't only get your news from Rachel Maddow. www.washingtonpost.com

#72 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 10:40 AM | Reply

Kinda feels like it falls into this category:
You Had No Right To Discover My Wrongs!
#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
There's no "wrongs" on the laptop.
If there were, it would be front page news.
Like the Steele Dossier.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-11 10:44 AM | Reply

He basically said the Steele Dossier contained some lies but those lies were immaterial. Which is ridiculous.

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Must have missed this.

The fact that you think that no lies can be immaterial is what is ridiculous.

The investigation of the investigators is nothing but a weak attempt at discrediting the investigation that caught a nest of spies. And deflecting and obstructing any further arrests and convictions. 37-38 so far. Gotta stop the hemorrhaging of I insurrection leaders any way you can.

Of course, as you know but refuse to admit, the Steele dossier did not have much to do with starting the investigation but, hey, you have to overthrow a democracy with insurrectionists that you have.

In conclusion. Hunter Biden ... Hunter Biden ... Hunter Biden!

And never forget what you have already forgotten.

BENGHAZI!!

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-11-11 11:12 AM | Reply

"Schiff admitted that parts of the steele dossier could be corraborated and others were disproven. As he said YEARS AGO if you consumed real news you'd know that."

The part that there is a person named Donald Trump? Yes, corroborated. The fact that he did any of the things specifically claimed in the Dossier? Uncorroborated. Steele made specific allegations and none of them are true. Pee tape? Nope. Cohen trip to Prague? Nope. Stop lying to yourself at the very least.

"You want to start discussing the actual crime instead of crying that someone called the cops?"

And which crime was this because we have had a SP and 2 impeachment trials and not yet 1 shred of evidence of collusion with the Russian government or Putin on the election?

"Trump was colluding with a hostile nation to get elected, giving that hostile nation the ability to blackmail and control him."

Blackmail him by having a pee tape? Seriously? Look at Hunter's laptop filled with actually true - along with highly illegal and embarrassing acts caught on video. It is like a "Girls Gone Wild" tape except it is "Crackhead Gone Wild".

"You've spent ZERO time focusing on that threat to our nation, and spend every day instead crying about how we should never have found out about it.
#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY"

Russia is a threat? If you honestly believed that for a second you would then have to admit that Biden's debacle in Afghanistan, his diversity campaign for the military, and the fact that his energy policies have enriched Russia would all be terrible things as they weaken us.

The greatest gift anyone could have given Russia is oil over $80/barrel - and Biden gave it to Putin on a silver platter. Is Biden Putin's stooge or is Biden just incompetent? We will have to get Hunter's bank account details to answer that question.

#38 | Posted by Skeptical

Here dum dum. Now you can inform yourself and stop crying. This should end your complaints about the steele dossier being not true.
www.newsweek.com
"What's True in Trump-Russia Dossier? Key Parts Proved Over Last Year"

Saying there was no evidence of collusion doesn't make that true. You can say it a million times, but then you always run away when I ask - well then why was trump's campaign sharing polling data with putin? That's more than a SHRED of evidence. That proves collusion.

No stupid, trump wasn't blackmailed with a pee tape. He was blackmailed by committing a crime with putin. He colluded with putin and putin could expose him for that. Which meant putin had power over him. When you commit a crime with someone, they own you. Putin owned trump.

You think russia is NOT a threat? You think a tyrant who got a con man criminal incompetent sociopath elected to the white house is NOT a threat? YOur fascist cult is america's biggest threat, and putin feeds that cult with money and propaganda.

What was your reaction when trump pardoned the guy who funneled money from putin to the GOP?

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-11 11:38 AM | Reply

Oh, wow, we did that again. I'm glad I had something else to do instead of spend my Wednesday debunking wingnut lies and logic pretzels.

The Steele "dossier" does not matter. It is irrelevant to anything other than it showed that shady stuff was happening and perhaps some agencies with 3 letters should look into it. Now that Trump lost the election, he's doing the next thing on Putin's to-do list...tear down our democratic system to install an authoritarian government. Traitor Repubicans are just fine with this, and more than happy to do the work.

#76 | Posted by chuffy at 2021-11-11 12:04 PM | Reply

"You know, I would probably stop calling you Squirts..."

Oh, please don't; it's the quintessential self-own, since it's a reference to posts where you got your ass handed to you, after being caught in a bald-faced lie.

It's also a great excuse for me to warn others you're either a total moron or a paid stooge.

Plus, I can post others' comments, like:

"Skeptical- Every time you say "squirts" I recall what a dishonest douchebag you were in that thread. Ask danforth for your scalp back, he's probably tired of taking it. Skeptical should change his username to Squirtical. Or should I say, Squirtsical.:
#122 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Please don't stop, Ima Schitturd!

#77 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-11-11 12:27 PM | Reply

It's also a great excuse for me to warn others you're either a total moron or a paid stooge.

We hold these truths to be self-evident.

#78 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-11-11 12:30 PM | Reply

You think russia is NOT a threat? You think a tyrant who got a con man criminal incompetent sociopath elected to the white house is NOT a threat? YOur fascist cult is america's biggest threat, and putin feeds that cult with money and propaganda.
What was your reaction when trump pardoned the guy who funneled money from putin to the GOP?

#75 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2021-11-11 11:38 AM | FLAG:
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Question for you Speakdumbly, which President has helped Russia more. A. The one who made us energy independant and a leading exporter and halted the Nord Stream pipeline to Germany which crushed Russia's economy or B. The one who shut down our production, the Key stone pipeline, advocated for the finish of Nord Stream and then begged Russia to in crease production.?

#79 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-11-11 01:15 PM | Reply

#79 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

The Traitor has helped Russia more, for willfully attempting to destroy the United States.

#80 | Posted by Zed at 2021-11-11 01:20 PM | Reply

Question for you Speakdumbly, which President has helped Russia more. A. The one who made us energy independant and a leading exporter and halted the Nord Stream pipeline to Germany which crushed Russia's economy or B. The one who shut down our production, the Key stone pipeline, advocated for the finish of Nord Stream and then begged Russia to in crease production.?

#79 | Posted by fishpaw

I would say the one who tried to end democracy and replace it with fascism helped russia more.

The one who tried to weaken NATO helped russia more.

The one who said he trusted russia above our own intelligence agencies helped russia more.

The one who committed crimes with russia and then more crimes to hide the original crimes helped russia more.

Remember back when it was so obvious that trump was russia's puppet that BOTH PARTIES in congress passed legislation saying trump couldn't remove the sanctions on russia, which he was trying to do, without congress' approval?

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-11 01:42 PM | Reply

SpeakSoftly handed Fishpaw his ass with that post. Ouch.

#82 | Posted by YAV at 2021-11-11 01:44 PM | Reply

Why so much squabbling over the dossier?

That's not what provided the impetus for a investigation into Trump and Russia.

#83 | Posted by brass30 at 2021-11-11 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why so much squabbling over the dossier?

That's not what provided the impetus for a investigation into Trump and Russia.

#83 | Posted by brass30

Because when you can't defend the crime, the best you can do is attack the cops.

#84 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-11 07:01 PM | Reply

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