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Monday, November 15, 2021

Royal Dutch Shell Plc announced a major overhaul of its legal and tax structure that will see the company walk away from the Netherlands amid deteriorating relations with what's been its home country for a century.

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Undoubtedly to get a few tips from BP on how to run an oil company.

#1 | Posted by jakester at 2021-11-15 12:50 PM | Reply

Undoubtedly to get a few tips from BP on how to run an oil company.

#1 | Posted by jakester

You could give them some tips on how to change their name to escape accountability for past behavior.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-15 05:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Not a lot of BP-labeled stations on the gulf coast, I still avoid them since moving out of FL.

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-11-15 07:21 PM | Reply

I worked the majority of my career for Shell Oil. I don't even recognize them anymore. My son also worked for shell for a couple of years and left. He works for P66 now.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-15 09:17 PM | Reply

"I worked the majority of my career for Shell Oil. I don't even recognize them anymore."

There, there.
You also don't recognize that the Saudis set the price of oil, not the President of the United States. ;)

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-15 09:23 PM | Reply

You also don't recognize that the Saudis set the price of oil, not the President of the United States. ;)

#5 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-11-15 09:23 PM |

What I realize is that oil companies respond to policy that will effect them - be it in their favor or against them. Why do you continue to take up for this moron who cant even collectively get his words together?

Is it that your ego is so big that you can't admit it was a mistake to vote for him? and don't give me this ---- about the alternative being Trump. The democrats had an opportunity during the primaries to select the most reasonable candidate, but she had plans other than "orange man bad" as her campaign platform. But no, democrats had to get in the clown Kar and put the peddle to the floorboard just to score some roasting points on Trump. How's that working out for you now?

Back on topic, yes, the president can have some influence in the price of energy - by shaping policies that make it harder for those companies to churn profits.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-16 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 Another righty (presumably) supporting Tulsi Gabbard. If she didn't have Republican concern-troll "support" she'd have no support at all.

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-16 08:30 AM | Reply

#6 Another righty (presumably) supporting Tulsi Gabbard. If she didn't have Republican concern-troll "support" she'd have no support at all.

#7 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2021-11-16 08:30 AM | REPLY

Another looney lefty (presumably) supporting anything that has Trump troll value. How's that working out for you? Do you want to discuss that or just take pot shots at anyone who won't get in the clown Kar? You voted for a man nearly 80 years old with obvious signs of dementia, what did you think was going to happen?

For the record, I was registered as a Democrat from 1989 to 2015 and now an independent.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-16 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Why do you continue to take up for this moron who cant even collectively get his words together?"
Where is this happening?
By saying he doesn't control the price of oil, that's not exactly building him up.
That's saying he is powerless.

"Is it that your ego is so big that you can't admit it was a mistake to vote for him?"
It wasn't a mistake to vote for him. And certainly not, not compared to voting for Trump. Ask GoNoles for further details.

"and don't give me this ---- about the alternative being Trump."
The alternative was Trump. It's a ---- alternative, but that's the way it is.

"The democrats had an opportunity during the primaries to select the most reasonable candidate"
How is Biden not the most reasonable candidate? Like, who was more reasonable, whatever reasonable means. Sanders? Bernie?
Also, was Trump the most reasonable candidate the GOP could come up with? Do you ever direct any iota of criticism to the GOP, or are you going to live out your days in Scorned Lover mode, with a side order of you didn't leave the Democrats, the Democrats left you.

"But no, democrats had to get in the clown Kar and put the peddle to the floorboard just to score some roasting points on Trump. How's that working out for you now?"
I don't understand what this is a reference to. Are you referring to the investigation into the coup attempt? Bannon arrested. Eastman memo coming to light. It's a start. You'd rather America not know about the Eastman memo and other details of the coup attempt?

"yes, the president can have some influence in the price of energy - by shaping policies that make it harder for those companies to churn profits."
Harder to churn profits? Oil companies have booked massive profits this year.
Are you making some kind of "if we cut taxes it will boost revenue" argument?
Is Biden's policy the only thing driving gas prices? Is it the major thing driving gas prices? Explain yourself.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 09:59 AM | Reply

Also, I don't really care too much about the person. I care about the policies of each respective party.

The Democrats have the Democratic Party Platform.
The Repubilcans no longer have a platform. They replaced their platform with a loyalty pledge to Trump.
Republicans stand for nothing, other than obedience to their sociopathic Mussolini inspired leader.

One of those is a better choice to lead a Democratic Constitutional Republic than the other -- regardless of their policies.
In fact, only one is qualified.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 10:07 AM | Reply

#8 I didn't say anything about Trump. Why are you bringing him up?

You voted for a man nearly 80 years old with obvious signs of dementia, what did you think was going to happen?

I actively opposed him in the primary and knew exactly what was going to happen. But when it came down to a boring old center-right candidate who will make halfway decent SCOTUS appointments versus a ridiculous cryptonazi gameshow host who brags about committing sexual assault and wants to overthrow democracy, it was a pretty easy choice. Not for you, apparently.

#11 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-16 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8 I didn't say anything about Trump. Why are you bringing him up?
You voted for a man nearly 80 years old with obvious signs of dementia, what did you think was going to happen?
I actively opposed him in the primary and knew exactly what was going to happen. But when it came down to a boring old center-right candidate who will make halfway decent SCOTUS appointments versus a ridiculous cryptonazi gameshow host who brags about committing sexual assault and wants to overthrow democracy, it was a pretty easy choice. Not for you, apparently.

#11 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2021-11-16 11:26 AM | REPLY | FLAG

So what you're saying is that it's perfectly fine for you to assign me a position, but not the other way around.

I brought Trump up not because of anything you said but because Gabbard refused to focus her energy on him. For that, the loonies wouldn't get behind her.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-16 12:06 PM | Reply

So what you're saying is

No, I actually didn't say any of that. It's a shame there are so many illiterates on this site. Maybe you and Jeff can enroll in a remedial reading course.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-16 12:20 PM | Reply

"By saying he doesn't control the price of oil, that's not exactly building him up"
So you actually believe all the rhetoric from the Biden administration about getting away from oil and gas has nothing to do with prices to the end user?

"ask GoNoles"
So GoNoles is now the authority on who we should've voted for? I'm sorry, I musta missed the memo.

"I don't understand what this is a reference to"
Of course you dont, you're engaged in troll mode.

"Harder to churn profits? Oil companies have booked massive profits this year."
Of course they have. You're trolling again here. We've had this discussion a couple of days ago but I'll explain it one more time to you. Why would an oil company invest their capitol to de-bottleneck/upgrade or build new construction projects in an environment where they're constantly being told they are being phased out? The 10-year portfolios for major projects at every major player will look dismal. It will only get worse from here. Since Biden got elected he's shut down a pipeline, announced all official US government will be electric in a few years, and GM followed suit and has already began phasing our conventional vehicle and will be 100% electric in this decade. In order to tackle the problem of infrastructure needed to even charge EVs, It will require massive amounts of conventional energy that is steadily on the rise. Thats not even including the energy for mining and production of wind and solar. Unless this administration is hiding it from us, I don't even think there's an official plan to accomplish this. It seems that it was all a lot of hype and buzz words.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-16 12:37 PM | Reply

"So you actually believe all the rhetoric from the Biden administration about getting away from oil and gas has nothing to do with prices to the end user?"

This is why I asked you:
Is Biden's policy the only thing driving gas prices? Is it the major thing driving gas prices? Explain yourself.

You gonna explain yourself?
Because now you seem to be explaining how it's Biden's rhetoric, as opposed to Biden's policy, or perhaps in conjunction with Biden's policy is moving gas prices.

The rhetoric and the actual policy are kinda in different directions...

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 12:56 PM | Reply

For the record, I was registered as a Democrat from 1989 to 2015 and now an independent.

#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds

What, did the election of trump make you think the democrat party doesn't need votes anymore?

"I stopped voting for democrats when republicans became a fascist white supremacist cult" doesn't make any sense.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-16 01:03 PM | Reply

I brought Trump up not because of anything you said but because Gabbard refused to focus her energy on him. For that, the loonies wouldn't get behind her.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds

That and her love for putin, and her assistance in getting his puppet elected.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-16 01:03 PM | Reply

For the record, I was registered as a Democrat from 1989 to 2015 and now an independent.
#8 | Posted by lfthndthrds

For the record, no one gives a shht.

Your posts clearly speak for themselves.

"Independent" seems to be the party for Trumpers too embarrassed to admit they're Republicans, but, support fascism sweeping across America by voting for Republicans.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-11-16 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Why would an oil company invest their capitol to de-bottleneck/upgrade or build new construction projects in an environment where they're constantly being told they are being phased out?"

And I responded by asking how quickly does CapEx today change the price?
I asked if you thought any new oil pursuant to expansions today, would flow during Biden's first term.
You're literally an expert in this field, so, what's the answer? In case I missed it.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 03:15 PM | Reply

"I stopped voting for democrats when republicans became a fascist white supremacist cult" doesn't make any sense.

Oh, but it does.

Strom Thrumond and Jesse Helms and, well, the entire political establishment of the South, stopped being Democrats when Democrats went all-in on Civil Rights.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 03:18 PM | Reply

"The 10-year portfolios for major projects at every major player will look dismal."

Is the other half of this equation "So they run up the price so they can bankroll purchasing renewable energy startups, and to fund their own renewable R&D?"

Because that actually makes sense.
However, that is not in line with this:

Exxon Surprises With $10 Billion Stock Buyback Announcement As Cash Flow Soars
October 29, 2021
"Following a surge in activist investor interest, Exxon and Chevron " the two largest U.S. oil and gas producers " are finally prioritizing shareholders rather than capital spending, despite energy crises in Europe and China and widespread concern about inflation and supplies of fossil fuels."
zububrothers.com

They say Activist Investors.
You say Joe Biden.
Are these activist investors the spawn of Joe?
???

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-16 03:25 PM | Reply

For the record, no one gives a shht.
Your posts clearly speak for themselves.
"Independent" seems to be the party for Trumpers too embarrassed to admit they're Republicans, but, support fascism sweeping across America by voting for Republicans.

#18 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2021-11-16 01:28 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)
| NEWSWORTHY 3

GO change your dirty pajamas and clean up all your fast food garbage. And while you're at it, pass Snoofy the remote.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-17 08:59 AM | Reply

What happens to old white men to make them incorrigible right-wingers?

Is thereby research on this?

Nullifidian for example. We can all see that he took a hard right towards the end of his time on this earth.

Anyone know why that seems to be such a common thing?

Is it a sign that the end is near, if you see this happen to a loved one, like I'm seeing in my personal life?

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-17 09:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#23 | Posted by snoofy

Because they can't be angry at god for making them get old and die, but they can take out their emotions on those who arent as close to death as they are.

Seeing the world change just reminds them of how their time is over and they're almost done. They think if they can keep things from changing or "make america great again" then they can extend their lives.

Plus there's just the bitterness of how their lives turned out. Their stupidity lead to them suffering so they want everyone else to suffer too.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-11-17 12:52 PM | Reply

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