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Tuesday, November 23, 2021

Michael Grothman: The Beer Hall Putsch was a failed coup d'tat by Nazi Party leader Adolf Hitler and German General Erich Ludendorff.

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Yes.

And they've used it, just like the Nazis, as a rallying point to further entrench power to continue pushing for the same outcome.

Echoes through history is what I see. Ignore them at your own peril.

It's not in our nature to accept we might be living through a time similar to things we count as some of our darkest moments of human history. Hell, a significant portion of people can't even acknowledge it when it's done and the full weight of evidence points to it.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-22 10:42 PM | Reply

And this is what happened after Hitler got out of jail and eventually took power....

"In Germany, Nazi leader Adolf Hitler orders a bloody purge of his own political party, assassinating hundreds of Nazis whom he believed had the potential to become political enemies in the future. The leadership of the Nazi Storm Troopers (SA), whose four million members had helped bring Hitler to power in the early 1930s, was especially targeted.

Hitler feared that some of his followers had taken his early "National Socialism" propaganda too seriously and thus might compromise his plan to suppress workers' rights in exchange for German industry making the country war-ready."

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www.history.com

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2021-11-23 04:00 PM | Reply

So, given #2, the Lincoln Project needs to werk even harder.... they could be like the socialists that Hitler had murdered after his rise.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2021-11-23 04:22 PM | Reply

It might sound absurd, but Israel is and has been the model for the GOP for the past 20 years:

www.google.com

#4 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-11-23 04:41 PM | Reply

Israel went hard-right after Yigal Amir assassinated Yitzhak Rabin, which is exactly what Yigal Amir predicted would happen and wanted to happen.

It's why he killed Rabin.

It was effectively a right-wing coup.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-23 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The putsch itself was a comical disaster. The trial afterwards is what put Germany on the path for a takeover. Most of the judges were nazis and allowed Hitler to grandstand and flail witnesses. From that point on the nazis were able to work the system from the inside.
I think we'd be in similar position today. A good portion of the old white judges in America are Trump supporters/nazis and many would attempt to skew any trial with him as a defendant. I dont think Donny has the chops to pull off what Hitler was able to accomplish from the dock, but at the same time I figure most Americans today are more ignorant, more racist and more gullible than the Germans in 1930. The right wingers on this site prove as much everyday.

#6 | Posted by BluSky at 2021-11-23 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

"The putsch itself was a comical disaster. The trial afterwards is what put Germany on the path for a takeover. Most of the judges were nazis and allowed Hitler to grandstand and flail witnesses. From that point on the nazis were able to work the system from the inside."

Surprisingly relevant to a recent trial here in America...

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-23 05:10 PM | Reply

Republicans will be lined up against the wall to be executed by Trump's Kyle Brigades, and their final complaint will be "Democrats, why didn't you ask us nicer to help you fight fascism?"

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-11-23 05:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

@@@#$%^Y&UI!!!

It's possible.

It was a failed fascist revolution and it looks like no one is getting executed or even life when we all know those who went in should be given the chair.

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2021-11-23 06:52 PM | Reply

The picture of the 3 random GOP nutters at the top
remind me of the "Loon, the Buffoon, and the Goon"...

what a triplet of 'way outters'...

...and this is the mess the rest of us have to
deal with now on a daily basis.

Thanks a lot Donald Trump!
Thanks a load GOP!
You made this...

#10 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-11-24 06:29 AM | Reply

Do you mean after decades of hubris was a sector of our nation under the influence of being beaten back by a foe, resulting in a trashed infrastructure while facing economic ruin under the weight of foreign debt thereby inspiring a pack of wannabe generals in Gawd's army to fight in order to maintain control of their power and entitlement like those Nazi fellers?

hmmmmmmmmm

Maybe

#11 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2021-11-24 12:32 PM | Reply

The Trumpists and Q nuts are not only still around, they're more organized and in more of a lather than ever. Look at the morons continuing to camp out in Dallas waiting for JFK and his boy to rise up from the dead and return to the city where, hello, JFK was murdered (on film, even), supposedly to support their looney "cause."

The pillow guy and the Congressional crackpot noobs and the anti-vaxxers and the Proud Boys and the Trumps themselves continue to flagellate their own stupidity and foment mistrust and paranoia. All the creepy half-wits who used to have just enough self-awareness to keep their mouths shut about their conspiracist, antisocial, antidemocratic tendencies are connecting on social media and having their beliefs affirmed, amplifying their misplaced anger and stoking their need to "do something." Funny how the latest bogeyman is Communism, as it often is among the far right.

America will have to be strong and strategic to withstand this threat.

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2021-11-24 04:02 PM | Reply

The parallel that doesn't exist is the far left. America doesn't have one. We've got far-right and center-right parties, with no real leftists to speak of, there are certainly no leftists in congress. Even the 'squad' are only center-left.

#13 | Posted by DarkVader at 2021-11-24 06:43 PM | Reply

The parallel that doesn't exist is the far left. America doesn't have one. We've got far-right and center-right parties, with no real leftists to speak of, there are certainly no leftists in congress. Even the 'squad' are only center-left.

#13 | POSTED BY DARKVADER

I would argue that there are certain anarchist elements on the left here in America, plus more radical antifa types that could fit the mold. Certainly, the violence that has surrounded many of the protests and stuff like Charlottesville and the Michigan state house protests fit the mold of the violence between the political extremes in Germany in the 20s and 30s.

One thing we have going for us is we are not a parliamentarian system, like the Weimar Republic was. Despite all its problems, the two-party system promotes a certain stability in governing. The fractious political parties of the Weimar Republic resulted in a government stagnation and instability that dwarfs our current situation-ie it was incredibly difficult to find consensus on anything.

the other inherent flaw were the powers given to the President (think unitary executive) and his ability to control parliament by being able to dismiss the chancellor or call for new elections. A unitary executive seems to be a precursor to authoritarianism.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-11-24 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Stable government will never come from the far left fighting off the far right. Investing in that fight only strengthens those with extreme views as they seek to sort us into two distinct camps. The current climate forces people to align themselves with one side vs the other. The strength has to come from building consensus and unity closer to the center. If we can strengthen the center, the fringes become irrelevant.

#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-11-25 06:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

CBOB Communism has always been the boogeyman, and the threat is still very real. Who do you think made the phone or the tablet or computer you are typing on? Shoot, China owns the pork industry in the United States and may have deliberately caused the pandemic. China already control us in ways you can't imagine. They just need to flip a few switches to completely control us economically, if not militarily. If you don't think Communism is a fictional boogeyman, ask Cubans, Venezuelans, ask the Taiwanese or the Uyghurs ... ..oh wait, you can't, they are in concentration camps.

#16 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2021-11-25 07:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Get a butterfly net. Dude you're gone. Propaganda much? Where'd you learn all that nonsense? Too much.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-11-25 08:19 AM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

The Chinese are authoritarian capitalists.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2021-11-25 08:51 AM | Reply

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