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Saturday, November 27, 2021

South Africa is reacting angrily to the way many countries around the world, including the United States, have imposed travel restrictions on travelers from southern Africa.



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Even though total cases across South Africa are still relatively low, health authorities are seeing a definite pattern in the people who are arriving in the hospital with serious illness: They're younger and largely not fully vaccinated. "We're seeing a marked change in the demographic profile of patients with COVID-19," Rudo Mathivha, head of the intensive care unit at Soweto's Baragwanath Hospital, said at an online press briefing. "Young people, in their 20s to just over their late 30s, are coming in with moderate to severe disease, some needing intensive care. About 65 percent are not vaccinated and most of the rest are only half-vaccinated."


"It may be it's highly transmissible, but so far the cases we are seeing are extremely mild," Angelique Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association, told The Guardian on Friday. "Maybe two weeks from now I will have a different opinion, but this is what we are seeing."

The head of the South African Medical Association told the BBC that the cases found so far in South Africa - where only about 24% of the population is fully vaccinated - were not severe, but said investigations into the variant were still at a very early stage.

"The patients are mostly complaining about a sore body and tiredness, extreme tiredness and we see it in the younger generation, it's not the older people... We're not talking about patients that might go straight to a hospital and be admitted," Dr Angelique Coetzee said.


C&Ping is a pain the ass from that site so read down. Reported symptoms are primarily fatigue, soreness and slight cough in unvaccinated, younger populations. Also, hospitals are not being filled or overwhelmed with omicron cases.

Take a deep breath, everyone. It's going to be OK.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-27 02:29 PM | Reply

I read that one reason South Africa was reacting so angrily was due to their reliance upon tourism money, and they are entering the start of the south-of-the-equator summer holiday vacation period. So their tourism income in this prime season for them is being hurt by the restrictions.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-11-27 02:52 PM | Reply


Here's a C&P from the IndiaTimes site you cite...

...The World Health Organization (WHO) identified on Friday the new South African strain as one of concern, as it is reported to carry a high number of mutations -- 32 -- which possibly makes it more transmissible and dangerous. The WHO has dubbed it Omicron, the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet.

"It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well. So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home," Coetzee said

The official noted that hospitals have not been overburdened by Omicron patients and that the new strain is not been detected in vaccinated persons. At the same time, the situation might be different for the unvaccinated.

"We will only know this after two weeks. Yes, it is transmissible, but for now, as medical practitioners, we do not know why so much hype is being driven as we are still looking into it. We will only know after two to three weeks as there are some patients admitted and these are young people aged 40 and younger," Coetzee added. ...

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#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-11-27 02:58 PM | Reply

This may hurt South Africa in the short run but in the long run it's for the best since the tourists who frequently go there will be alive next year.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2021-11-27 04:52 PM | Reply

"This may hurt South Africa"

What racist rubbish, its been found in the UK, Italy, Germany. We are now banning travel from Malawi, Mozambique, Zambia and Angola. Even the racist bigot Israelis are banning all incoming foreigners. Any thing to keep the "brown" people out. Xenophobic?

This is nothing but White supremacy from the Western World!

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-11-27 07:58 PM | Reply

Dutch are brown?

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-27 08:43 PM | Reply

"What racist rubbish, its been found in the UK, Italy, Germany. "


"We are now banning travel from Malawi, Mozambique, Zambia and Angola."


G-D you're an idiot.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-27 09:14 PM | Reply

61 out of 600 passengers tested positive for COVID on the last two flights to the Netherlands from southern Africa.

#8 | Posted by YAV at 2021-11-27 10:24 PM | Reply

There are some that have track record and deserve no trust. How did it get to SA?

#9 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-11-28 07:32 AM | Reply

"South Africa has administered at least 25,238,789 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that's enough to have vaccinated about 21.6% of the country's population."

It's been repeatedly said that the as long as there are places for the virus to spread and mutate we're going to keep getting variants. We're one planet and we're in this together, whether we want to admit it or not. Thankfully we have an administration that understands that.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2021-11-28 07:40 AM | Reply

G-D you're an idiot.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

Israel is reporting 7 suspected cases in non-travelers.

In all likelihood, the variant had already seeded other countries before it was found. That's just the dynamic of global travel and a virus like this one.

Travel bans are a crude tool used because we're too lazy to do it properly.

Travelers being required to quarantine for a specific time after arriving is what was needed but wasn't done in many (most?) countries.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-28 10:44 AM | Reply

How did it get to SA?

#9 | Posted by fresno500

Likely evolved there or in Botswana.

There are three current crowds of scientists out there right now that I've read opinions from:

1. Loud mouthed walking egos speculating and predicting without sufficient data

2. Cautious, better scientists/doctors who highlight our need for information and the nature of how early in the process all this is

3. Those pointing out that this is an inevitable occurrence as wealthy nations have hoarded vaccines and vaxx producers have viewed intellectual property and profit as more important than global health

This strain looks to be similar to alpha (UK) variant in that it has a large constellation of mutations stemming from chronic exposure to a weak response in an immunocompromised individual. Someone who should have been vaccinated early on (assuming they're aware of their status).

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2021-11-28 11:08 AM | Reply

"It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well."

So basically, the same symptoms as getting the mRNA vaccine.

#13 | Posted by sentinel at 2021-11-28 04:43 PM | Reply

Travel bans are a crude tool used because we're too lazy to do it properly.

#11 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2021-11-28 10:44 AM | FLAG:

What's "properly"? Lockdowns until Zero Covid?

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-11-29 09:11 AM | Reply

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