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Monday, November 29, 2021

How real are you? What if everything you are, everything you know, all the people in your life as well as all the events were not physically there but just a very elaborate simulation? Philosopher Nick Bostrom famously considered this in his seminal paper "Are you living in a computer simulation?," where he proposed that all of our existence may be just a product of very sophisticated computer simulations ran by advanced beings whose real nature we may never be able to know. Now a new theory has come along that takes it a step further " what if there are no advanced beings either and everything in "reality" is a self-simulation that generates itself from pure thought?


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Under this proposal, the entire simulation of everything in existence is just one "grand thought." How would the simulation itself be originated? It was always there, say the researchers, explaining the concept of "timeless emergentism." According to this idea, time isn't there at all. Instead, the all-encompassing thought that is our reality offers a nested semblance of a hierarchical order, full of "sub-thoughts" that reach all the way down the rabbit hole towards the base mathematics and fundamental particles. This is also where the rule of efficient language comes in, suggesting that humans themselves are such "emergent sub-thoughts" and they experience and find meaning in the world through other sub-thoughts (called "code-steps or actions") in the most economical fashion.


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That's YOUR reality, man.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-29 12:42 PM | Reply

Right. Like you're real or something.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-11-29 12:56 PM | Reply

There was an episode of The Big Bang Theory where this hypothesis was made and illustrated.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-11-29 12:57 PM | Reply

Now a new theory has come along that takes it a step further - what if there are no advanced beings either and everything in "reality" is a self-simulation that generates itself from pure thought?

Look at how easy it is to go from one ridiculous theory to another. It's almost as if they're just making stuff up.

#4 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2021-11-29 01:20 PM | Reply

#4 Have you tried being real?

#5 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-11-29 01:30 PM | Reply

This thread is REALly stupid.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-11-29 01:44 PM | Reply

#6 Only if you think about it.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-11-29 02:01 PM | Reply

Yeah well pretty sure my farts are real. Watching them kill a fly in midair is freaking real.

#8 | Posted by shoeless at 2021-11-29 03:09 PM | Reply

The reasons that these alt theories are interesting is that they fill in glaring blanks in current physics/philosophy theories. Of course, there are other explanations for existence but some of them are considered too simple. KISS.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2021-11-29 03:38 PM | Reply

That's where I'm a viking!"

#10 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2021-11-29 04:01 PM | Reply

Yeah, but are you a real viking:

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-11-29 08:43 PM | Reply

Even if true, does it matter?

#12 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-11-30 01:50 AM | Reply

Hi I'm a brain in a jar.

My delusions are still better than yours.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2021-11-30 12:26 PM | Reply

These arguments have come up periodically over
the last decade or two. Especially with the advent of
Chaos Theory, and Supercomputing tied to simulations.
Still have yet to see a convincing argument that proves
(to any reasonable degree) to me, that everything is a simulation.
Death seems pretty real to me. Everyone I've ever known has done it.
The unpredictability of random acts too. Sure Chaos predicts some of
them, to some degree, but it can't predict me throwing a nickel over
my head (in a wanton fit of randomness). Seems like another
failed branch of philosophy (gussied up with overly technical terms
and algorithms to me).

#14 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-11-30 02:21 PM | Reply

Sounds like the movie FREE GUY.
It's actually a decent movie as long as you don't go into thinking it's Shakespeare.

#15 | Posted by a_monson at 2021-11-30 09:58 PM | Reply

Either everything is real or you are insane.

I mean who would chose the life you have?

#16 | Posted by kudzu at 2021-12-01 08:11 AM | Reply

I mean who would chose the life you have?


Wait a dog gone minute here.

You got to chose?

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-12-02 07:59 AM | Reply

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