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Tuesday, November 30, 2021

Trump, Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton all flew on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet, the paedo's former pilot told the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.

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color me shocked

#1 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-11-30 01:15 PM | Reply

Once. Then he banned the guy from all his hotels. Bill Clinton? 27 times. Hillary's first job as a lawyer was defending pedophiles.

Color me shocked.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-11-30 01:48 PM | Reply

The orange diaper sniper and Epstein were famous for tag-teaming 13 year olds.

www.politico.com

#3 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2021-11-30 02:21 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

Putin prefers young boys.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-11-30 04:41 PM | Reply

From what I've heard it's even more deranged. Trump apparently knew it was a huge liability if his DNA was found on any of the girls, so he hired a lookalike impersonator to do the deed while he watched and did his thing.

#5 | Posted by PussyFort at 2021-11-30 07:06 PM | Reply

H-RAT,

So you're saying Trump is 1/27th as deplorable as Billy 'Willy' Clinton?

Wow! That's, um, really saying something?

LOL

Bill Clinton is a rotten pedophile. And, according to you, Trump is 1/27th of that.

Interesting yet curious clarification on your part.

#6 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2021-11-30 08:43 PM | Reply

Bring it. I don't care whose ox is gored.

#7 | Posted by cbob at 2021-11-30 08:54 PM | Reply

There are extensive public documents (hundreds of pages) from the depositions in the Epstein case - probably the same pilots. A ton of source material, and very sketchy situations.

#8 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-11-30 10:53 PM | Reply

Putin prefers young boys.

#4 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2021-11-30 04:41 PM |

Apparently Bill Clinton does too.

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-30 11:02 PM | Reply

All the fascist rapists did, big surprise!

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-11-30 11:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The orange diaper sniper and Epstein were famous for tag-teaming 13 year olds.
www.politico.com

#3 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2021-11-30 02:21 PM | REPLY

What are you going to do with the Clintons?

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-30 11:04 PM | Reply

#11

Rein will do nothing. He'll just continue to fantasize about---------- 24/7. Hide your children.

#12 | Posted by willowby at 2021-11-30 11:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2021-11-30 11:16 PM | FLAG:

Pretty sure Rhine is into children, considering the postings.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-11-30 11:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#3 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

All the fascist did? Do you support fascist?

Pretty sure Rhine is into children, considering the postings.
#13 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Certainly seems like Rhine picks tribal sides, like most people here, as opposed to being against pedophiles, perhaps Rhine is one.

#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-11-30 11:30 PM | Reply

Bring it. I don't care whose ox is gored.
#7 | POSTED BY CBOB

Exactly, let the fascist slaughter each other.

#15 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-11-30 11:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bill Clinton
#2 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

Bill Clinton
#9 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

The difference between me and you is that i want everyone associated with Epstein to be permanently removed from society, whereas you merely want to deflect and say "but they did it too!" like some sort of toddler. Because you are okay with (and indirectly defend)----------.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2021-11-30 11:57 PM | Reply

#16 Oh please. You aren't fooling anyone. Both of your selective quotes, if you read what they were in response to, were pointing out that even a sacred ox like Clinton may get gored if this all comes out.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 12:05 AM | Reply

Pilliowbitey and the other Repug ---------- who post on this site worship a demented-------------------.

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:09 AM | Reply

Pilliowbitey and the other Repug ---------- who post on this site worship a demented-------------------.

#18 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2021-12-01 12:09 AM | FLAG:

And your Democrat friends?

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-12-01 12:12 AM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2021-12-01 12:09 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Have you checked in with local authorities?

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-12-01 12:13 AM | Reply

POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

------------, any plans of going to Mara Pedo to hang with your kid-diddling hero?

#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:30 AM | Reply

Here's the thing, Reihneitsgebot,

Some of us live in a world that isn't tribal. We recognize the ------- that Trump is while also being able to recognize the -------- that your progressive heroes are too.

It's kind of like being able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 12:33 AM | Reply

-------------, you're the racist pos who supported Governor Snyder. So chew on that.

#23 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:38 AM | Reply

Pilliowbitey and the other Repug ---------- who post on this site worship a demented-------------------.
#18 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

They may be a ----------, but you seem like a pedophile ... I am new here, and you posted some good things.

But now, I have to say, you seem to defend pedophiles, why? Call them what they are, unless you are defending pedophiles? Call them what they are.. FFS.

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:39 AM | Reply

------------, any plans of going to Mara Pedo to hang with your kid-diddling hero?
#21 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Are you joining them?

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:41 AM | Reply

Undescendednuts, you seem to be defensive about your child-raping hero being called out. What gives?

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:42 AM | Reply

MAGAt, why the new handle?

#27 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:43 AM | Reply

#23 You are the one who constantly fantasizes about----------.

Please get help.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 12:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I hope the full truth comes out in the trial of Ghislaine I just wish her well, frankly' Maxwell. I don't care who they take down. Justice must be served.

#29 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-12-01 12:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Undescendednuts, you seem to be defensive about your child-raping hero being called out. What gives?

Defensive about what? I say hang them all, don't you read?

#30 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:46 AM | Reply

Or better yet, turn yourself in for psychiatric evaluation before you act out on you fantasies, if you haven't already acted on them.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 12:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I say that as a caring person looking out for your best interests and those of any potential victims.

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 12:47 AM | Reply

I hope the full truth comes out in the trial of Ghislaine I just wish her well, frankly' Maxwell. I don't care who they take down. Justice must be served.

Agreed, but seems the Riensophile is defending the pedophiles ...

#33 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On information and belief, by this time in 1994, Defendant Trump had known Defendant Epstein for seven years (New York, 10/28/02, "'I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life.'"), and knew that Plaintiff was then just 13 years old. Exhs. A and B.
10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B.
11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and B.

Read it and weep, -------------.

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

www.politico.com

This isn't fantasy, -------------.

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:53 AM | Reply

#34 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Awesome!

But why do you defend pedophiles, I still don't understand?

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:54 AM | Reply

Why do you keep defending Trump? Are you a pedophile apologist?

#37 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 12:56 AM | Reply

Why do not post the full thing?

Fascist are Fascist, and these fascist are pedophiles! why do you defend them?

Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testifies Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew flew aboard Epstein's private plane
www.cnn.com

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:57 AM | Reply

Why do you keep defending Trump? Are you a pedophile apologist?

Defending him? LOL I love that you found some good things against those fascist pigs.. but seriously, you seem to ignore all the other pedophiles? Why only Trump, its hilarious!

#39 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 12:59 AM | Reply

lurk more russian.

#40 | Posted by Tor at 2021-12-01 01:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You find it hilarious that Trump and Epstein abused a 13 year old? You are one sick puppy.

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 01:01 AM | Reply

#34 what is there to weep about?

If Trump was involved in sexual predation vis a vis Epstein than gather the evidence, charge him with a crime (or several) and give him his day in court. That applies to Clinton as well as the alleged ringleader, Maxwell.

Like I said, this is tribal only for you and your ilk, Rhine.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 01:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Really? That's how you read that?

I have gotten the feeling posters on this site weren't bright, but this is beyond expectation.

You win, you are the lord of the idiots!

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-01 01:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-------------, why did you change your handle after your hero lost the election?

#44 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-01 01:20 AM | Reply

I'm Bellringer.

If by "my hero" you are referring to Trump I didn't vote for him and am glad he's gone. He's a POS.

Again, this goes back to being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. I loathe Trump, especially after how he handled his loss. That doesn't excuse weaponizing massive federal agencies clandestinely to try and undo the result of the 2016 election and it sure as hell doesn't excuse the massive cabal of Democrat power-figures, major media outlets, Big Tech and NeverTrump Republicans all conspiring to control the messaging and deceive the public (as reported by Time Magazine - although they were actually giddy about it, it's funny when the mask slips) in order to deceive the public in a way that made all of the alleged 2016 Trump shenanigans (most of which were nothing burgers) to absolute shame in terms of scope, money, collusion and corruption.

I hate all of it. All. Of. It. Trump remains toxic and I'm glad he's marginalized. Having said that, I almost never subscribe to the ends justify the means and that is exactly what has happened and continues to happen.

Who could have imagined with the slimmest of possible majorities Democrats and their media outlets truly believed they had FDR - levels of a mandate to institute massive overhauls to our country? Court-packing was a FDR idea, and even with massive majorities it was shot down by his own party. Fast-forward and it was pushed hard with basically a 50%+1 advantage. Maybe it was just bluster, but I only ever saw Manchin and Sinema speak out against these lunacies. All other Democrats were either pushing for it or were mum.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 01:33 AM | Reply

Question for Gun Control activists: Why aren't you focusing on the pilots?
--Boaz

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"FDR - levels of a mandate to institute massive overhauls to our country?"

^
You can't say one good thing FDR did for America on the domestic front.

That's what happens when you team up with a Communist to defeat a Nazi: The Riiight never, ever forgives you.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:45 AM | Reply

"NeverTrump Republicans"

That's what you are.
Don't you remember?

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:51 AM | Reply

I can come up with plenty of positive things FDR did on both the domestic and foreign front.

Not sure what your point is within the context of my comment, but keep being you...

#49 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 01:52 AM | Reply

"Fast-forward and it was pushed hard with basically a 50%+1 advantage. Maybe it was just bluster, but I only ever saw Manchin and Sinema speak out against these lunacies. All other Democrats were either pushing for it or were mum."

Meanwhile,

132 House Republicans and 6 Senate Republicans voted against certifying the election.

The next time you condemn them will be the first.

Hiding behind more text isn't working for you.

Had Trump succeeded in seizing power legally on Jan 6, you'd not condemn that either.

Here, let me show you how: Was there even a coup attemp?

Feel free to say there was indeed a coup attempt, and prove me wrong.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I can come up with plenty of positive things FDR did on both the domestic and foreign front."

But you didn't.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:55 AM | Reply

#48 No, that's not what I am. I didn't vote for him. I also didn't oppose everything he did, because Trump. Further, I actually supported some of his policies once I saw the positive effects. None of his positives undo the negatives. Those will always be there. Again, I understand how this kind of nuance is difficult to understand for someone who lives in an informational bubble and can't comprehend nuance, but I'm trying real hard to be the educator. It's all about baby-steps. Put one foot in front of the other.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 01:56 AM | Reply

#51 why should I? This page isn't about FDR. I brought him up only in the context of the huge congressional majorities he had and was still unable to pack the court because he was rebuffed by his own party.

I guess I should just ignore you. You focus in on really strange things that have little to no relation to the actual discussion.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 01:58 AM | Reply

"Further, I actually supported some of his policies once I saw the positive effects."

LOL.

You won't say anything specific.

It's like you suffered a traumatic brain injury and you don't remember who you were...

But you're still the same person.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 01:59 AM | Reply

"You focus in on really strange things that have little to no relation to the actual discussion."

I see through you, and get right to the heart of the matter.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 02:01 AM | Reply

Good night.

Your inanities are only worthy of being ignored.

That's a conclusion that I was already coming to but now have fully reached.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-01 02:08 AM | Reply

Some of us live in a world that isn't tribal.
#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

he was rebuffed by his own party.
#53 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
In other words, FDR was rejected by his own tribe.

You just revealed that you can't help but view the world as tribal.

We know this about you, even if you will never admit it.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 02:10 AM | Reply

Why don't you tell us your old username, BellRinger?

We all know why.

You can't even be honest about who you are.

You're a liar.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 02:14 AM | Reply

And in the morning, you will still be a liar.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 02:15 AM | Reply

Snoofy is your real name?

#60 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-12-01 08:07 AM | Reply

It took one time for Trump to figure out Epstein was a Mossad honeypot trap, Then he banned him from his property.

Bill was just a pedo, and his "wife" defended them in court as her specialty.

reinheitsgebot has to be an anagram. But what? Mine is "u R Hitler".

#61 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-12-01 10:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Snoofy is your real name?
#60 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I've never used another name here.
Have you?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 10:16 AM | Reply

A fake name is a fake name, Vistor_ is not the name my birth certificate. I've tried to change my posting handle but the account screen wouldn't let me.

#63 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-12-01 11:33 AM | Reply

#63 You have to drop acid with rcade and just hug it out. Just e-mail him. aborted_monson got his racist genocidal eugenics name name changed to a_monson. Hans had all his posts deleted. It isn't hard, just e-mail the boss monster and talk.

#64 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-12-01 11:44 AM | Reply

There some things, not many mind you, that I just won't do.

#65 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-12-01 11:45 AM | Reply

#62 snoofy

I can verify that. You have always been my emotional support pig, for like forever.

#66 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-12-01 11:45 AM | Reply

Help me out here. A lot of people flew on Epstein's jet. So what?

#67 | Posted by e1g1 at 2021-12-01 12:35 PM | Reply

Does anyone question the credibility of this pilot and if being truthful about never seeing anything inappropriate? Seems like he might be doing a bit of CYA, if he was aware of underage girls being transported with powerful men, and the possible implications, and didn't take measures?

#68 | Posted by igashosparks at 2021-12-01 01:28 PM | Reply

Sounds like Trump was such a ------- that his behavior at pedophile Island got him banned, not his morality which has never been on display.

Anyone defending the people going there ,whether or not you think to they were sent to Earth by God....should see a psychiatrist. Your sick and need help!

#69 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2021-12-01 01:55 PM | Reply

The difference between me and you is that i want everyone associated with Epstein to be permanently removed from society, whereas you merely want to deflect and say "but they did it too!" like some sort of toddler. Because you are okay with (and indirectly defend)----------.

#16 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2021-11-30 11:57 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Bull------. I'm perfectly fine with any and all who participated in this with Epstein being punished to the fullest extent of the law. Im not making excuses for anyone and you know what makes it even better? I never quit calling out the Clintons out - him for paying off rape victims and a her for shaming the accusers while she was claiming to be a champion of woman's rights. Rhine runs around all day talking about the child raping Donald yet Rhine has more evidence to point the finger at Bill Clinton. Yes, I call that ------ out.

#70 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-12-01 06:51 PM | Reply

A fake name is a fake name, Vistor_ is not the name my birth certificate. I've tried to change my posting handle but the account screen wouldn't let me.

#63 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2021-12-01 11:33 AM

#63 You have to drop acid with rcade and just hug it out.

#64 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2021-12-01 11:44 A

LMAO!!

#71 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-12-01 07:03 PM | Reply

-want everyone associated with Epstein to be permanently removed from society,

What do you mean by "associated with Epstein"?

I'm sure there are plenty of people who have socialized with him, done business with him, been seen with him in public, etc. who weren't connected in any way to his disgusting behavior.

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-01 07:23 PM | Reply

Lock em' ALL up. Pigs and pedophiles. Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew. Bill Gates. Lock all the elitist ------ up in the same tiny cell. Epstein could only die once. More's the pity.

#73 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-12-01 08:46 PM | Reply

Lock em' ALL up. Pigs and pedophiles. Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew. Bill Gates. Lock all the elitist ------ up in the same tiny cell. Epstein could only die once. More's the pity.

#73 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT 2021-12-01 08:46 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

weak --- ------. Come on Goat, you can do better.

#74 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2021-12-01 09:47 PM | Reply

has to be an anagram. But what? Mine is "u R Hitler".

#61 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

Too many "R"s. Yours is "haulmier", literall a strawman.

#75 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-12-02 12:20 PM | Reply

Ghislaine Maxwell trial: First accuser says Epstein introduced her to Trump at age 14

www.nydailynews.com

The 300 lb orange kid-diddler stays true to form.

#76 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-02 12:23 PM | Reply

True to form, the Q-turds are now saying the Orange Skid Mark was going undercover on these trips to take down Epstein.

You can't make this ---- up.

#77 | Posted by Nixon at 2021-12-02 02:51 PM | Reply

Trump had to experience the tightness of the fourteen year old's pink baby tunnel personally. You know, to confirm she was underage.

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 02:56 PM | Reply

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