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Thursday, December 02, 2021

Author Alice Sebold apologized to a man who last week was exonerated of her rape, a crime she wrote about in her memoir "Lucky," but the writer also appeared to place as much blame on a "flawed legal system" as she did on the role she played in his conviction.

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I despise what occurred here. And I have little forgiveness for Ms. Sebold. She was so eager for "justice" that falsely identified an innocent man and destroyed his life. No matter how progressive or liberal Ms. Sebold may believe herself to be, she still is just another scared, privileged and disgusting example of humanity. She lied. No matter how she tries to frame it, that is what she did.

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-01 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ytpepo have done tremendous damage.

#2 | Posted by fresno500 at 2021-12-01 11:46 PM | Reply

I am surprised more people are not aware of this story. In this day and age of increasing consciousness as to white privilege, and the phenomena known as "Karen", and the coverage of all the ways our justice system has utterly failed black people in our society. Ms. Sebold is a major author. She wrote a book about this event. It was even being prepared for a movie adaption. And it turns out it was all based on a misidentification by Ms. Sebold who all but admits that she colluded with prosecutors to convict the wrong man.

#3 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-02 04:51 PM | Reply

"I am surprised more people are not aware of this story."

There's a thousand stories just like this, with respect to the falsely accused doing decades behind bars.

Law and Order Conservatives literally have no problem with it.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"a detective and a prosecutor told her after the lineup that she picked out the wrong man and how the prosecutor deliberately coached her into rehabilitating her misidentification,"

Just another day at the office.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 05:10 PM | Reply

Yeah. But this is Alice Sebold. Among those of us who read books, she is a pretty big deal. Imagine a famous actress or famous news personality having this in their recent past. It is huge.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-02 05:20 PM | Reply

What are her books like?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 05:42 PM | Reply

I have little interest in this case, but if she only apologized after all this happened, she can go ---- herself.

If she championed his innocence for years after she realized the prosecuters used her, then that's different.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 06:12 PM | Reply

She wrote among other things The Lovely Bones. That was later made into a movie with Saoirse Ronan and Stanley Tucci.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-02 06:17 PM | Reply

She be trash. If she misidentified the man she should have stuck to that. There is absolutely no benefit to anyone in convicting the WRONG man. What a F**ked up ----. Her being some literary phenom just makes the whole thing even sleazier. The detective just wanted a conviction he didn't care about justice at all. She was weak and easily let astray.

No excuse. She destroyed an innocent man's life and the real criminal walked, and probably raped again.

#10 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-12-03 12:44 AM | Reply

She deleted her tweet that said "Oops mah bad LOL!" And tweeted another blaming Trump and the patriarchy. It's unknown which of her seven homes she's staying at.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-12-03 04:53 AM | Reply

Hated the lovely bones. I hope she is cancelled.

#12 | Posted by byrdman at 2021-12-03 06:45 AM | Reply

What are her books like?

#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-12-02 05:42 PM | FLAG:

Somebody commits a brutal crime against a woman and there's no evidence basically.

Until a reveal at the end.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 09:03 AM | Reply

She wrote among other things The Lovely Bones. That was later made into a movie with Saoirse Ronan and Stanley Tucci.
#9 | POSTED BY MODER8

Sounds like the kind of stuff they show on Lifetime.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 09:55 AM | Reply

Snoofy: "Sounds like the kind of stuff they show on Lifetime." Surprised you don't know her.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2021-12-03 11:38 AM | Reply

"No matter how progressive or liberal Ms. Sebold may believe herself to be, she still is just another scared, privileged and disgusting example of humanity. "

You just made a comparison by using the same criteria. I mean, I wouldn't say progressives or liberals are disgusting examples of humanity (nobody in context of party affiliation should be described like that just because of party affiliation alone), but privileged and scared is dead on. Liberals to this day STILL believe every single allegation of rape regardless of context or evidence (or lack of) so this kind of reverse PC-washing is ridiculous.

#16 | Posted by humtake at 2021-12-03 12:07 PM | Reply

Snoofy: "Sounds like the kind of stuff they show on Lifetime." Surprised you don't know her.
#15 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Not surprised you do.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 12:12 PM | Reply

stories like this are why

#believeher

needs to be more like
#respecttheaccusationbutinvestigatewithskeptism

admittedly it doesn't roll off the tongue well at all

#18 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-12-03 01:07 PM | Reply

#Investigate
Would address both sides of the issue.

The reason for #BelieveHer is the same reason there are thousands of untested rape kits.
Lots of men in power don't think rape is a particularly serious crime. And some are covering for the rapists in uniform.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 01:14 PM | Reply

Call me draconian, but if someone accuses someone else falsely, shouldn't they be jailed for the time the perp would've done? Or at the least, nothing less than the time already served by the innocent.

Same for cops, too. And prosecutors.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-12-03 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#believeher
needs to be more like
#respecttheaccusationbutinvestigatewithskeptism"

Or maybe: #respecttheaccusationbutinvestigatewithanopenmind.

Or simply: #respecttheaccussationbutinvestigate.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-12-03 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"if someone accuses someone else falsely"

It sounds like the police groomed her to make the false accusation.

Which wouldn't be hard at all, when she's naively expecting the police to care about stopping rape.
They exploited her trust to get what they wanted: A ------ behind bars.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 01:22 PM | Reply

"#Investigate
Would address both sides of the issue."

Yes.

"Call me draconian, but if someone accuses someone else falsely, shouldn't they be jailed for the time the perp would've done?"

I wonder how much the trauma of being rape affects the victim's perception and memory after the fact? I imagine it could have a substantial effect, which is all the more reason police and prosecutors should take care not to influence the rape victim while s/he are trying to identify a suspect but should instead investigate. The notion of "trust but verify" comes to mind.

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2021-12-03 01:28 PM | Reply

If it is an outright false allegation... Woman accuses a man of a rape that never happened then I would fully back her facing an equivalent length sentence for that crime.

#24 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-12-03 01:37 PM | Reply

"I wonder how much the trauma of being rape affects the victim's perception and memory after the fact?"

Even non-traumatic events are not remembered accurately.

But to your point, it's easier to groom someone who is hurt and in need of help. Ask Mossad agent Ghislaine Maxwell for more details.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 01:40 PM | Reply

"Woman accuses a man of a rape that never happened"

I was under the impression the rape happened, just not by this guy.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 01:41 PM | Reply

#26 I wasn't saying that applied here.

In a case like this, I think the punishment lay with those that steered her in the wrong direction.

It does beg the question though... if and when she did realize she had been prompted to point out the wrong man, when is she obligated to come forward? Ever?

#27 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2021-12-03 01:58 PM | Reply

"if and when she did realize she had been prompted to point out the wrong man, when is she obligated to come forward? Ever?"

Legally I doubt there's any obligation to step forward. I don't even think the prosecutor has a legal or even an ethical obligation to come forward if he has new evidence of innocence, after he's won the case. But I'm not lawyer, and maybe that varies from state to state.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 02:04 PM | Reply

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