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Thursday, December 02, 2021

Across the U.S., landlords are less likely to respond to applicants with African American and Latino-sounding names when renting properties, a practice that contributes to rising residential segregation.

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...In the largest study of its kind to date, researchers created fictitious renters with names more often associated with White, African American or Hispanic identities.

They then tracked more than 25,000 interactions between those people and 8,476 property managers in 50 of the largest U.S. cities.

Renters with White-sounding name received a 60% response rate, compared to a 54% and 57% response rate for those with African American and Hispanic identities, respectively, according to a new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research.

"African American and Hispanic/LatinX renters continue to face discriminatory constraints in the majority of U.S. cities," the paper said. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-01 07:32 PM | Reply

"Renters with White-sounding name received a 60% response rate, compared to a 54% and 57% response rate for those with African American and Hispanic identities, respectively,"

I would have guessed an even larger disparity

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-01 07:36 PM | Reply

@#2 ... I would have guessed an even larger disparity ...

At first glance, I'd agree.

Then I saw the survey was taken in the largest 50 US cities, and it seems to be less of a surprise.

I'd like to see a similar survey taken outside of the cities, in the more rural areas of the US.

Do you think the results might be different?


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-01 07:58 PM | Reply

I would imagine the disparity would be larger in rural areas.

Some areas of more dense populations of Hispanic folks (farming, packing houses, etc) many landlords want Hispanics.

But overall? Higher disparity.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-01 08:02 PM | Reply

@#4 ... I would imagine the disparity would be larger in rural areas. ...

Yup.

That is why I think this particular survey is flawed.

It seems to focus on the area (cities) where housing discrimination is less of a problem.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-01 08:10 PM | Reply

"Renters with White-sounding name received a 60% response rate, compared to a 54% and 57% response rate for those with African American and Hispanic identities, respectively"

That's a pretty slim difference.

Which suggests it's a handful of bigots accounting for the discrepancy.

How big a handful, that's a good question.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-01 08:40 PM | Reply

In other news, water is still wet.

#7 | Posted by qcp at 2021-12-02 10:34 AM | Reply

There's not much difference between 60% and 57%...

Way to race bait...

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2021-12-02 09:27 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Way to race bait... ...

How so?

In the discussion above, I stated I thought the survey was flawed.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-03 12:01 PM | Reply

Definitely a lot to consider. I'd love to see the actual controls. Did they send these to ALL skin colors of renters? Meaning, was it only white people who were looking at the names? Chances are no, which further enforces that skin color (or names typically associated with skin color) has nothing to do with it and that it's only based on money. That's one degree away from racism. Then you have to consider that common sense dictates that bad experiences with anything en masse is human nature and not indicative of any malice. If a white person punches you in the face every day for 5 years, and you walk outside a white person starts coming towards you, you are instinctually going to have a defensive reaction. Pretty much common sense. Also, if I have been robbed by a bunch of people named Tyrone, it's also instinctual that it would hold a negative connotation in my brain and I would look for another name, even one that is also typically associated with another skin color.

But that reasoning only throws holes into the logic people use to equate this kind of study to anything malicious. It doesn't address the conclusion. But given that there are other flaws in this study, like wtf does a 3% difference make when almost every scientific study like this already has a 1-5% variability, it's actually almost indicative of there being almost no difference in responses. I don't believe that as I do believe there is a tiny percent of people who would go by name as a determinate, but this study doesn't prove anything.

Just take this as your critical thinking lesson for the day, kids.

#10 | Posted by humtake at 2021-12-03 12:21 PM | Reply

There's not much difference between 60% and 57%...
#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ

First off it is not 57% percent. It's 54% for african american sounding names and 57% for hispanic.
Secondly, it's good to see you openly admit that racism is no big deal in your book.

#11 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-12-03 12:33 PM | Reply

"enforces that skin color (or names typically associated with skin color) has nothing to do with it and that it's only based on money."

^
Are you saying that making assumptions about money based on skin color isn't racism?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 12:38 PM | Reply

You can certainly make broad statements about money based on skin color.
For example you can say that the average black household net worth is far lower than the average white households.
But you run afoul of the law when you act on that knowledge to deny a rental opportunity because they're black and therefore presumed to be a bigger financial risk... even as the averages support that concept.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 12:40 PM | Reply

You can certainly make broad statements about money based on skin color.
For example you can say that the average black household net worth is far lower than the average white households.
But you run afoul of the law when you act on that knowledge to deny a rental opportunity because they're black and therefore presumed to be a bigger financial risk... even as the averages support that concept.

#13 | Posted by snoofy

Not only bigger financial risk but bigger risk of introducing crime to your property.

These smash and grab mobs aren't mostly white kids.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-03 03:20 PM | Reply

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