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Thursday, December 02, 2021

It's official: Tesla is now a Texas company.

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One likely contributing factor behind the move is the fact that Musk stands to save an estimated $2.5 billion in capital gains taxes by moving his residence and business from California to Texas.

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It's funny that they can't even sell their own product in their home state.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-02 02:44 PM | Reply

Hope they enjoy ice storms and willful government negligence coupled with their megalomaniac ceo.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2021-12-02 03:05 PM | Reply

Didn't this already happen?

Or is it now finally "official"?

Tesla cars suck. They were just fortunate to be the first.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-12-02 03:09 PM | Reply

Didn't this already happen?

#3 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2021-12-02 03:09 PM | REPLY

No, just a statement about it.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 08:11 AM | Reply

It's funny that they can't even sell their own product in their home state.

#1 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-12-02 02:44 PM | FLAG:

They sure can. Franchise a dealership and sell away.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 08:11 AM | Reply

No small irony that franchise law protects small business and consumers from manufacturers like Tesla.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 08:13 AM | Reply

I suspect that's one reason Tesla moved to TX.

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2021-12-03 09:22 AM | Reply

States with total direct sales bans of Tesla products:
New Mexico (also bans service centers)
Alabama (also bans service centers)
South Carolina (also bans service centers)
Louisiana
Texas
Connecticut
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Oklahoma

See a pattern?

#8 | Posted by YAV at 2021-12-03 09:25 AM | Reply

They sure can. Franchise a dealership and sell away.
#5 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Flag: FUNNY

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 09:53 AM | Reply

There's no ban on sales of Tesla products lol.

If you want a pattern though, you left off Massachusetts, New York, Ohio, Vermont, Washington. All have various restrictions against businesses that vehicle manufacturers may own. Because these megacorporations have historically been abusive of We The People. Franchise Law didn't come out of thin air lol and is an amazing progressive accomplishment.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 09:55 AM | Reply

If they franchise a dealership, it's not Tesla selling you a Tesla.

It's the franchise owner selling you a Tesla.

Kinda like when Trump turned the White House into a Goya franchise.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 09:59 AM | Reply

and Tesla moved to Texas because:

a) Elon Musk doesn't want to pay state income taxes
b) Tesla doesn't want to pay a corporate tax
c) Lower cost of living for Tesla employees
d) Skilled labor pool to draw on with existing assembly plants
e) No Covid shutdown hassles
f) No state pols from the ruling party telling Elon to go F himself

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 10:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's the franchise owner selling you a Tesla.

#11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2021-12-03 09:59 AM | FLAG:

Functionally, it is the dealer brokering you a vehicle from a distributorship company (on import brands colloquially referred to as "The Port"), which is sold the vehicle by the Manufacturer. A Toyota store in Alabama gets its vehicles from Gulf States Toyota, which gets its vehicles from Toyota Motor Corporation.

This is America though so that progressive protection is quite limited. Elon can just use his brother as a schmuck again like Solar City. Kimball Musk heads up Tesla Dealer Franchises. The franchise agreements from manufacturers always specify that the dealership GM owns a stake in it and has X number of years in different departments before they're allowed to run the store. The dealership owner finances the GM their stake. A Tesla real estate company holds the land and leases it to the stores. Tesla Financial provides the loans, though as a consumer you are at least protected from being required to use their funding sources... or you used to be, maybe not anymore.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 10:09 AM | Reply

Functionally,

If you buy a new car from the dealer, you write a check to the dealer.

I can't believe you chose this hill to die on. This is dumber than clip vs. magazine.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 10:12 AM | Reply

"c) Lower cost of living for Tesla employees"

LOL
Who's paying for this PR, Elon or Texas?

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 10:20 AM | Reply

It is a really dumb hill for Sitz to die on, and he's doing it with a lot of flailing.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2021-12-03 10:21 AM | Reply

Your obsession with arguing in favor of a vertically integrated corporation, that already has worst in industry customer service, undoing progressive consumer progressions in a historically abusive industry, is quite the strange hill to die on for anybody complaining about gains going to the top lol. Let alone a corp run by a covid denying, tax-dodging Trumper that got covid and is using the public roads as an AI lab.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 10:22 AM | Reply

Regarding the rather poor deflection in #10, wikipedia lays it all out, with the differences. The list I posted is exactly what it says it is.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2021-12-03 10:23 AM | Reply

Not a deflection. It's a common law in a lot of places. Tesla just sued the ---- out of them and some of the states settled. They lobbied a lot of red states & some blue to undo their consumer protections so they're going to get what they're going to get. In others, Tesla can own dealerships, but other manufacturers cannot because that's the deal they cut at the expense of consumers again.

Libertarian wet dream for sure. Progressives should have a little issue with it lol.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 10:38 AM | Reply

The difference btw, should you ever "get the trades" and not have to use wiki, was the mandatory vs voluntary vertical integration states. The mandatory states are the ones that remain as franchise-required states for all automotive manufacturers. The voluntary-agreement states are the ones that had their industry groups rushing to push laws to switch them to mandatory once Tesla appeared and in some cases cut deals with Tesla for a fixed number of stores in exchange for manufacturers not opening vertically integrated stores. It's all pretty humorous.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2021-12-03 10:46 AM | Reply

You go guy!

lol ... look at you go! One step closer to Mars!

Baby steps, baby!

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-12-04 11:48 AM | Reply

"Your obsession with arguing in favor of a vertically integrated corporation"

You're the one with the Tesla obsession.

You post about Tesla every chance you get.

The rest of us just think it's a car, if it's right for you get one, if it's not get something else.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-04 11:52 AM | Reply

The rest of us just think it's a car,

Not exactly, I understand you are confused.

EVs represent decoupling of where useful Energy is converted to utility, from where it is used; While there is some loss, overall its an incredible invention.

Over time energy generation will get cleaner. Perhaps this is another thread you should sit out.

#CleanAir
#StopGlobalWarming

#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-04 07:02 PM | Reply

Musk is a flake. Tesla's are a scam. Texas is where ------ go to Die. I give em' five years. Then they will be like the DeLorean. Kaput.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-12-05 02:56 AM | Reply

Then they will be like the DeLorean.

Elon is certainly a flake but I don't think he's going to sell the FBI a suitcase full of coke while on camera.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2021-12-05 11:14 AM | Reply

Can someone explain the problem of direct selling cars to consumers? I would much rather buy a new Ford truck direct from the manufacturer at a set mark up over production cost than pay for the dealers overhead and a commission to the "salesman."

#26 | Posted by ABH at 2021-12-05 11:42 AM | Reply

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