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Saturday, December 04, 2021

U.S. intelligence officials have determined that Russian planning is underway for a possible military offensive against Ukraine that could begin as soon as early 2022 and would include an estimated 175,000 personnel, according to an administration official.


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Is 175,000 troops enough to occupy Ukraine?
It wasn't nearly enough to occupy Iraq.

Honestly, I say let Russia have them.

Our chance to stop WWIII ended when we elected Trump.

Almost exactly in the same way that England's chance to stop WWII ended when they elected Chamberlain.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-03 10:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Honestly, I say let Russia have them.

That was Biden and Hillary's goal, remember the "reset button", and Obama told Romney "the 80s called and wanted their foreign policy back", remember how clever the left wing media said it was. Now look at you, pathetic?

But at least you are getting in the spirit of defunding the military!

Our chance to stop WWIII ended when we elected Trump.
Almost exactly in the same way that England's chance to stop WWII ended when they elected Chamberlain.

Unfortunately that happened when Obama let Putin take Crimea, you know exactly like when the Germans took Czechoslovakia under Chamberlain.

You really need to work on both your history and analogies, but at least you tried.

You have potential, got this I am rooting for you!


#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2021-12-04 12:24 AM | Reply

"Unfortunately that happened when Obama let Putin take Crimea,"

Sounds like we're both saying Biden's not to blame for it.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-04 03:13 AM | Reply

This is based on a document sent to the Washington Post.

I know that because I recently had sex with Putin.

And it was awesome. Here:

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2021-12-04 09:13 AM | Reply

U.S.-Russia Tension on Ukraine Erupts as Top Diplomats Face Off

...U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had a testy exchange over Ukraine at a dinner with dozens of their colleagues this week, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The verbal tension erupted as the U.S. and its European allies seek ways -- including possible sanctions -- to counter the threat of a Russian invasion of Ukraine after President Vladimir Putin's troop buildup on the neighboring country's border.

Lavrov took the floor at the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe dinner in Stockholm on Dec. 1 to revisit Russia's view that the collapse of a pro-Moscow administration in Ukraine in 2014 was a coup, according to two of the people. He also alleged that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the European Union were suppressing dissent and threatening Russia.

Blinken responded by recapping the 2014 events, including that forces loyal to then-President Viktor Yanukovich fired on peaceful protesters in Kyiv, killing more than 100 people, before he fled and surfaced in Russia. Blinken also told his Russian counterpart that NATO is a defense alliance.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova dismissed reports that Blinken had shut down Lavrov during the exchange at the 57-nation forum. She was responding on Facebook to Ukrainian media reports that Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba and Blinken had put Lavrov, one of the world's most senior diplomats, in his place....

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-04 01:05 PM | Reply

A few minutes ago...

Biden, Putin set video call Tuesday as Ukraine tensions grow

...Presidents Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin will speak in a video call Tuesday, the Kremlin said, as tensions between the United States and Russia escalate over a Russian troop buildup on the Ukrainian border that's seen as a sign of a potential invasion.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed plans for the conversation to Russia's state news agency RIA Novosti and said it will take place Tuesday evening. "The presidents will decide themselves" how long their talk will last, he said Saturday.

The White House did not immediately comment on the announcement.

The leaders have not spoken since July, when Biden pressed Putin to rein in Russia-based criminal hacking gangs launching ransomware attacks against the United States. Biden said the U.S. would take any necessary steps to protect critical infrastructure from any such attacks.

Ransomware attacks have continued since then, though perhaps none has been as alarming as the one from May that targeted a major fuel pipeline and resulted in days of gas shortages in parts of the U.S.

Russia is more adamant than ever that the U.S. guarantees that Ukraine will not be admitted to the NATO military alliance. But NATO's secretary-general, Jens Stoltenberg, said this past week that Russia has no say in expansion plans by other countries or the alliance. Numerous former U.S. and NATO diplomats say any such Russian demand to Biden would be a nonstarter.

U.S. intelligence officials, meanwhile, have determined that Russia has massed about 70,000 troops near its border with Ukraine and has begun planning for a possible invasion as soon as early next year, according to a Biden administration official who was not authorized to discuss that finding publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity....

Why "as soon as early next year"?

One reason I saw...

Mud Could Help Decide Timing of Any Russia Move Against Ukraine (Nov 25, 2021)

...Muddy terrain and the need for more troops on the ground make any large-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine unlikely until January at the earliest, military analysts in Moscow and the West say, creating a window of diplomacy to steer President Vladimir Putin away from a war....

Of course, Pres Putin could surprise everyone...

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-04 01:38 PM | Reply

As someone pointed out last week we either face Putin down or do nothing and lose Ukraine and Taiwan.

#7 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2021-12-04 01:59 PM | Reply

#7 Well at least our drones are available for use.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-04 02:10 PM | Reply

Well I guess NATO isn't all "defensive" if they're talking about war. For that matter the Serbs might have something to say about it too.

This is not our business. Meddling ourselves into a major war is just dumb. Trumplike dumb.

NATO isn't a suicide pact and Ukraine isn't a member. Stand down fellas, let this one go.

I means 10 times more to the Russians than it does to us. Just another war to lose. We've been doing that a lot lately. If you haven't noticed.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2021-12-04 02:34 PM | Reply

Russia invades Ukraine. Poland and Belarus start blasting each other. We'll bumble into another pointless war. All we need now is going back to tradition and Germany invades France while nobodies looking.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2021-12-04 03:06 PM | Reply

Has Putin's -------------- wished Russia godspeed yet?

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-04 03:07 PM | Reply

@#9 ... Russia invades Ukraine. Poland and Belarus start blasting each other. ...

After Ukraine, Poland and Belarus are next in line.

Pres Putin has made it no secret that he wants the old USSR back.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-04 03:13 PM | Reply

"After Ukraine, Poland and Belarus are next in line."

Not likely.
Poland is a NATO member.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-04 03:29 PM | Reply

@#13 ... Not likely.
Poland is a NATO member. ...

If Pres Putin succeeds with Ukraine, will NATO matter?

If fmr Pres Trump wins in 2024, will NATO matter?

Pres Putin wants the old USSR back. He seems to be determined in that goal. Is NATO as determined to stop him?

I wish I knew the answers.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-04 03:58 PM | Reply

U.S. sounds alarm on Ukraine

...The Biden administration is "deeply concerned" by new intelligence -- detailed for Axios and other outlets -- showing Russia stepping up preparations to invade Ukraine as soon as early 2022. ...

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-04 08:22 PM | Reply

Russia will go bankrupt if they do this attack. It is all for show to get some kind of goodies. Putin is an abject coward and would never put himself in the sights of a drone strike which would eventually come if he does this invasion. I've see the photos and it seems all to silly what with all the units grouped together in large square formation in an almost "Look at me" scene.

#16 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2021-12-06 10:51 AM | Reply

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