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Monday, December 06, 2021

Reality Winner's mother: What Reality did was not espionage. What Reality did was patriotism. She actually stood up and worked for the American people to give us the truth about an attack on our vote, an attack on our democracy, an attack on our country. And I'm very proud of her for that.

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She should have gotten more time.

#1 | Posted by ABH at 2021-12-06 08:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

What Reality did was not espionage. What Reality did was patriotism ...

Disagree. What she did was by definition an insider threat action, placing sources and methods at risk, and leaked materials which by definition of classification had possibilities to cause grave danger to the United States and national security.

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-12-06 09:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Looks like she has been tanning. Wonder what kind of job she can get on the outside. I'm guessing in a red state not much.

#3 | Posted by byrdman at 2021-12-06 09:35 AM | Reply

Just thought of a job she can do. Only fans. I'm sure a lot of people would pay for it.

#4 | Posted by byrdman at 2021-12-06 09:39 AM | Reply

What she did was for the love of country? So I'm assuming that the Jan 6 veterans can use the same excuse?

#5 | Posted by fishpaw at 2021-12-06 09:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

America needed to know Russia did attack us.

America did not need an army of thugs trying to undo Democracy.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2021-12-06 10:35 AM | Reply

From the cited article...

...Scott Pelley: You knew it was stamped "Top Secret." You knew what that meant.

Reality Winner: I knew that. I knew it was secret. But I also knew that I had pledged service to the American people. And at that point in time, it felt like they were being led astray.

Winner was caught as soon as the top secret report surfaced. The NSA could see on its network that she printed it. She drove home to a new reality. ...


She came to a fork in the road, and chose the wrong direction to follow.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2021-12-06 01:32 PM | Reply

Her crime "helped secure the 2018 mid-term election."

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2021-12-06 02:21 PM | Reply

It just seems that our governments keeps doing so many horrible things that those in power then try to cover up regardless of whether divulging the truth would actually be harmful to American security or not.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-06 03:15 PM | Reply

So I'm assuming that the Jan 6 veterans can use the same excuse?
#5 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Wow. The insurgents have achieved "veteran" status, in the minds of the Deplorables.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-07 11:30 AM | Reply

What she did was for the love of country? So I'm assuming that the Jan 6 veterans can use the same excuse?

#5 | POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2021-12-06 09:53 AM |

They are NOT veterans. They are terrorist. They should have received life in prison for their terrorist ways

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-12-07 11:36 AM | Reply

It would be nice, when people post an article, if they at least
said what she is guilty of leaking...or write a short synopsis
of the article at the top. Don't have time to click on every
article and read them all. All that being said, as someone who
'deals' w classified documents, ANY leak is considered going against
the 'will of the country'. That also being said, the 'will of the country'
basically boils down to 'the will of the leadership (i.e. the bureaucrats and
the military in D.C.).

IF she leaked that (someone within our own government, or allied w our government at the
time, was directly trying to subvert the vote), that is the only way that I could conceivably consider
'giving her a pass'. Only if NOT REPORTING IT would have caused more damage, than
possibly reporting it. If it was something CLEARLY ILLEGAL AND CLEARLY PARTISAN, meant to sway
the outcome of the vote through, NON TRADITIONAL MEANS. Still, 99.9% of these cases,
the person who commits the act of dissemination, is found guilty.

It is very important to keep this 'RULE OF LAW' however, in almost every case, as 'someone above
pointed out', it shouldn't come down to 'an individual's opinion of what a patriotic act is'...
people who are overly political, shouldn't be placed in such positions.

You can have a 'public opinion'. But that needs to take a 'back seat' when doing the classified
business of the country. If you cannot or are not able to separate your will from the nations will,
you really shouldn't hold a classified clearance. Ma 2 cents on the matter.

#12 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-12-07 02:29 PM | Reply

"It is very important to keep this 'RULE OF LAW' however, in almost every case, as 'someone above
pointed out', it shouldn't come down to 'an individual's opinion of what a patriotic act is'...
people who are overly political, shouldn't be placed in such positions."

^
Republicans placed Trump in such a position.

She heard Trump lying, and had Super Duper Top Secret information he was lying, so she leaked it.

I can see why she thinks she was a patriot. Fun fact: You can be a patriot and break your own nation's laws at the same time! And if you're lucky the judge might even toss the gun charge.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-07 02:44 PM | Reply

If it wasn't for law-breaking, this country wouldn't exist.

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2021-12-07 05:30 PM | Reply

That's her name?? Reality Winner???

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2021-12-07 07:34 PM | Reply

"She heard Trump lying, and had Super Duper Top Secret information he was lying, so she leaked it."

What should Trump have done? Released the report himself?

Trump is an idiot who I wouldn't trust to protect anything other than himself, but by claiming ambiguity he was also protecting the sources of that intel.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-12-07 08:16 PM | Reply

I'm well aware of your point Snoof, and
I said as much, if you bother to read my post more carefully. My point remains though,
in 99% of these types of leaks, the person doing the leaking is wrong to do so. This may be an exception to that general rule, however.
If so, it was an extremely brave, and career changing decision.

#17 | Posted by earthmuse at 2021-12-07 08:55 PM | Reply

"in 99% of these types of leaks, the person doing the leaking is wrong to do so. This may be an exception to that general rule, however."

Fun fact: It is illegal to classify something in order to cover it up or avoid public embarrassment. And if that does occur there are avenues through which one can report it. Even in very highly classified areas such as Sensitive Compartmentalized Information (where the NSA basically lives) or other Special Access Programs.

In this case it seems like she didn't like what the president was saying, and wanted to publicly correct him. In my experience, what is released publicly is often very different from reality. And that's OK. If you really want to know what is going on behind the green door, sign the NDA and find out. But you need to understand that there are legal ramifications if you violate that NDA.

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2021-12-07 09:19 PM | Reply

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