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Monday, December 06, 2021

Barton Gellman: Technically, the next attempt to overthrow a national election may not qualify as a coup. It will rely on subversion more than violence, although each will have its place.

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A neutron bomb should've been dropped on dotard's ------------ cop killers.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-06 10:05 AM | Reply

If they had been put on trial for attempted murder of pence none of this would have happened.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2021-12-06 10:36 AM | Reply

If it means blowing up things and generally acting like an ape with its hand clutching its ---------, Republicans are fairly easy to manipulate.

Some day we will go to the zoo and, instead of poor captured jungle animals, we will view the various species of the late 20th century and early 21st century American GOPer. Sure they'll jump up on down and screech and toss their crap at us- but honestly, that is all they could ever really do.

#3 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2021-12-06 11:12 AM | Reply

Dems are the ones who've treated this like a one time event that can be handled by law enforcement and the justice department, instead of what it was - the republican party declaring war against democracy and the united states.

The first attack on the trade center killed 6 people.

The second attack killed 3000.

Dems allowed the first attack on the country and are pretending there wont be another. What's it called when an administration is refusing to acknowledge a massive threat to the country or defend the country against it? Dereliction of duty? Betrayal of his inaugural oath? That whole "all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC" part?

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-06 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich

1h
it's been eleven months to the day and we still don't know who told the -------- with the zip ties where everyone's private offices were. who the ---- disconnected the panic buttons? why the ---- haven't the traitors been expelled from congress yet? holy ------- ----, let's GO

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2021-12-06 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Standing by to stand by ...

Semper Fi

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-12-06 12:52 PM | Reply

it's been eleven months

Not to worry!

They locked up QAnon shaman.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-12-06 12:54 PM | Reply

I think the most important lingering institutional after-effect of the January 6 attempted coup is what was once unimaginable here in the USA (the world bastion of democracy) is now frighteningly imaginable. Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular value obtaining power more than they value our democratic institutions.

#8 | Posted by moder8 at 2021-12-06 01:53 PM | Reply

I think the most important lingering institutional after-effect of the January 6 attempted coup is what was once unimaginable here in the USA (the world bastion of democracy) is now frighteningly imaginable. Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular value obtaining power more than they value our democratic institutions.

#8 | Posted by moder8

And dems value appearing nonpartisan more than they value saving democracy.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-06 02:16 PM | Reply

#4 & #9

Warnings and reminders are on my mind too.

Here's a recording of Flight 93 Tower Of Voices last March at 2am when the tadpoles and frogs were crawling out of winter:

FLT93 Memorial

#10 | Posted by LesWit at 2021-12-06 02:56 PM | Reply

Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular

Trump received more votes in 2020 than any Republican in the history of the United States.

Republicans are Trump supporters. It's long past time to stop pretending there is any daylight between the two.

#11 | Posted by JOE at 2021-12-06 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Show of hands - how many actually took the time to read that garbage piece published by "The Atlantic"? With the some of the biggest allegations I was expecting footnotes. We got none. Then there was the equivocations. So, so many of them. What a tire fire.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-06 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

^Insurrection apologist.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2021-12-06 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13 garbage articles are just that. One can condemn 1/6 and at the same time recognize what a tire fire this Atlantic piece is.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2021-12-06 03:57 PM | Reply

#13 garbage articles are just that. One can condemn 1/6 and at the same time recognize what a tire fire this Atlantic piece is.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

Or one can spend their time making false equivalencies for 1/6, downplaying it, saying no one died so it's no big deal, and trying to make everyone forget about the fact that your cult tried to end democracy in front of our eyes, and is still trying to end democracy behind the scenes.

Just like you do.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-06 04:01 PM | Reply

Gunga Dimwit is a lying piece of ---- who is STILL carrying -------- water.

Why anyone listens to him is beyond me.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-12-06 04:09 PM | Reply

One can condemn 1/6 and at the same time recognize what a tire fire this Atlantic piece is.

#14 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

One can't "condemn" 1/6 then attack everything about it while deflecting and distorting everything it was.

That's like saying Trump told the protestors to be peaceful.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 04:11 PM | Reply

"With the some of the biggest allegations I was expecting footnotes."

And we are expecting you to deny the biggest allegations -- by any means necessary.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-06 04:21 PM | Reply

-One can condemn 1/6 and at the same time recognize what a tire fire this Atlantic piece is.

not here

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 04:27 PM | Reply

But enough about the Jan 6 insurrection.
Let's shoot the messenger instead!

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-06 04:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

BTW do not just accept the notion that the Atlantic article is a dumpster fire. That is another of the tactics that the right uses all the time

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-12-06 04:37 PM | Reply

With the some of the biggest allegations I was expecting footnotes.

BTW the lying piece of ---- Gunga Dimwit again lies. The "footnotes" are the links throughout the article to other articles detailing the "biggest allegations"

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-12-06 04:39 PM | Reply

21

Not a very good one.

All one has to do is actually read the article and decide for yourself.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 04:40 PM | Reply

One can condemn 1/6 and at the same time recognize what a tire fire this Atlantic piece is.
#14 | Posted by BellRinger

I suppose, but not really sure why you would. Discussions here are usually more about the concept than the article itself.

#24 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2021-12-06 04:41 PM | Reply

Lol ebs and jeffy have their heads so far up their own asses they're practically singularities but the misperception is everyone else's.

Uh huh. Sure.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 04:46 PM | Reply

The author is upset that most Americans, including many prominent democrats (And Biden) are not taking this seriously enough.

But I'm not exactly sure what the author wants democrats to do right at this moment.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 04:46 PM | Reply

-Lol ebs and jeffy have their heads so far up their own asses

What did I do to you now?

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 04:48 PM | Reply

If Jan 6 was practice for overthrowing the government, that ragtag bunch needs a lot more of it.

#28 | Posted by jakester at 2021-12-06 05:20 PM | Reply

But I'm not exactly sure what the author wants democrats to do right at this moment.

#26 | Posted by eberly

Fire garland and hire someone who pledges to root out all the fascist stooges trump installed throughout the government and law enforcement, without worrying that the terrorist cult will call you partisan.

Call out repubs every day for what they did, name the politicians in the cult who helped the attack, prosecute them as well.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-06 05:22 PM | Reply

No pants ------ since January 6 has yet explained how they are going to get the military behind them -- a necessity if one is to overthrow the government.

#30 | Posted by jakester at 2021-12-06 05:23 PM | Reply

What did I do to you now?

#27 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Duhhhh why do people keep responding to me on a public blog?!?!?!?

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 05:26 PM | Reply

But I'm not exactly sure what the author wants democrats to do right at this moment.

#26 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Drag ------- out of Maralardo in chains and throw him in jail without bail.

A drumhead trial can be held within a week or two

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-12-06 05:29 PM | Reply

No pants ------ since January 6 has yet explained how they are going to get the military behind them -- a necessity if one is to overthrow the government.

#30 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Did the IRA have the military behind them?

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 05:29 PM | Reply

And Mao is right that all the power emanates from the barrel of a gun."

Look Jeffy, your ----------- soulmate!

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 05:31 PM | Reply

"No pants ------ since January 6 has yet explained how they are going to get the military behind them -- a necessity if one is to overthrow the government."

Enacting the Eastman Memo and having Republicans seize power despite the will of the voters, that wouldn't technically count as "overthrow the government."

Is that the distinction you're making?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-06 05:31 PM | Reply

Backing it up a bit, think about what they're saying.

They're not worried about it because they think the military will step in and prevent it from happening.

They're OK with our democracy basically being enforced by our military.

And yet they're the ones with a proper perspective...

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 05:39 PM | Reply

-why do people keep responding to me on a public blog?!?!?!?

LOL....I was just asking about how my head is so far up my ass. That's all

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 05:44 PM | Reply

Drag ------- out of Maralardo in chains and throw him in jail without bail.

See, this is why the article is being criticized.

It was written for you, twoothy. To get you all ginned up.

"Fire garland and hire someone who pledges to root out all the fascist stooges trump installed throughout the government and law enforcement, without worrying that the terrorist cult will call you partisan.
Call out repubs every day for what they did, name the politicians in the cult who helped the attack, prosecute them as well."

I didn't ask what YOU want democrats to do.

I asked what the AUTHOR wants democrats to do.

WTF is wrong with people?

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-06 05:51 PM | Reply

That wasn't exactly clear when your question was what did you do to me now.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2021-12-06 05:52 PM | Reply

I didn't ask what YOU want democrats to do.

I asked what the AUTHOR wants democrats to do.

WTF is wrong with people?

#38 | Posted by eberly

Good question. Some of people are so stupid, they ask questions to someone who isn't even listening to them.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-06 06:26 PM | Reply

Gellman had an article in the Atlantic around September 2020 that completely nailed what would be Dotard's efforts to overturn the election.

What happened on 1/6 was the last gasp, and they came close to getting Pence which would have given Combover Quisling a chance to name a new VP that would do what Pence refused to do. They also came very close to stealing the EC vote box, which would have given Pence the opportunity to throw the election to the house, or for AZ, PA, MI, GA to name alternate slates of electors.

#41 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2021-12-07 01:51 AM | Reply

One can condemn 1/6 ...

Yeah?

Let's see you do that.

You have been acting like the insurrection was not an insurrection and was no big deal and Donald Trump is a has been.

You are an apologist for criminals.

You should know that COVID has now killed more Americans than did the combat deaths in every single war America has ever fought COMBINED, from both World Wars to the Civil War to Vietnam and Korea right down to the invasion of Grenada (666,441 total combat deaths vs. 787,695 COVID deaths and still counting).

The majority directly attributable to Trump and his incompetence and criminal negligence as leader of the free world.

There can be no peace in America without justice.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2021-12-07 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I c n't pretend that there is any point to this site existing and I seriously doubt I can participate any longer. When foul language gets a post deleted but support for traitors doesn't then why have moderation at all?

#43 | Posted by danni at 2021-12-07 12:23 PM | Reply

POSTED BY DANNI AT 2021-12-07 12:23 PM

Hey, good to see you back active Danni, hope you're doing okay.

#44 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2021-12-07 01:14 PM | Reply

There is just too much room for mischief in the way we elect a president. It is easy to see how republicans could either not certify the election which would make the speaker of the house president of the USA or have the house decide who is president. The big thing is they are holding the card because there is no way democrats will overturn a republican win if the house of reps decide who becomes president because the republicans have controlled a majority of the delegations for more than 25 states for a long time. The republican strategy is to convince their base that they actually won so no state with a majority republican delegation will defect and vote to elect a democrat who is the real winner of the election.

#45 | Posted by danS at 2021-12-07 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One can condemn 1/6 ...
Yeah?
Let's see you do that.

Exactly. At best he condemns it in passing, checking a box, while spending the other 99.9% of his time attacking just about everyone who wants to make sure that sort of threat to our nation doesn't happen again.

#46 | Posted by JOE at 2021-12-07 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I riled up several here on 1/6 as it was unfolding when I chose to not agree that 1/6 was worse than 9/11.

Not looking to re-argue that again but suffice to say that you can minimize or maximize the significance of 1/6 through whatever lense you choose.

1/6 was undoubtedly unprecedented. Very significant.

I doubt many have the balls to NOT condemn what happened that day.

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 04:30 PM | Reply

I riled up several here on 1/6
#47 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Congratulations. I'm sure it was the highlight of your year.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2021-12-07 04:31 PM | Reply

you can minimize or maximize the significance of anything through whatever lense you choose.

1/6's significance is greater because it's now December and the nation still hasn't recovered from it.

1/6 wasn't simply the actions the day of. It's also the actions leading up to that day and every day since.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2021-12-07 04:40 PM | Reply

48

Despite what power some here believe I posses, I didn't have anything to do with 1/6. It's not like I logged on that day to gloat or troll anyone.

I simply took issue with 1 utterance....made at a time when folks' emotions were running high.

It certainly was not the highlight of my year.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 04:47 PM | Reply

48

Despite what power some here believe I posses, I didn't have anything to do with 1/6. It's not like I logged on that day to gloat or troll anyone.

I simply took issue with 1 utterance....made at a time when folks' emotions were running high.

It certainly was not the highlight of my year.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 04:47 PM | Reply

-the nation still hasn't recovered from it.

The nation? I think you'll agree this country is pretty fractured over a lot of stuff and has been for a while.

so it's difficult to say "the nation has....." anything.

Not even on 1/7 was this country on the same page with what happened the day before.

Unlike 9-11.....which was not an issue.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 04:49 PM | Reply

"Not even on 1/7 was this country on the same page with what happened the day before."

And that doesn't make it worse?

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-12-07 05:02 PM | Reply

I doubt many have the balls to NOT condemn what happened that day.

#47 | Posted by eberly

Thanks for the reminder that you're willfully ignorant about the rest of your cult.

Tucker Carlson calls the insurrectionists political prisoners.

#54 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-07 05:08 PM | Reply

Not even on 1/7 was this country on the same page with what happened the day before.

#52 | Posted by eberly

At least on 1/7 many of your cult's leaders were speaking against trump and the insurrection.

Now they've all flip flopped, except for the ones your cult has kicked out of your cult.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-07 05:09 PM | Reply

-And that doesn't make it worse?

I see your point. It depends, I guess.

If 5 people look outside and only 2 think it's raining.....how bad is it raining if at all?

OTOH, if 5 people can't agree there is a fire....then the fire could be more devastating if you don't recognize it's an actual fire and respond accordingly.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 05:19 PM | Reply

Yourcult....didn't see you there, little fella.

How's it going? You gonna try and make the varsity gymnastics team this year?

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 05:22 PM | Reply

"If 5 people look outside and only 2 think it's raining.....how bad is it raining if at all?"

If it's obviously pouring, it means three folks are using the weather version of Republican Math.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-12-07 06:00 PM | Reply

"If 5 people look outside and only 2 think it's raining.....how bad is it raining if at all?"
If it's obviously pouring, it means three folks are using the weather version of Republican Math.

#58 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

It means those 2 are looking at -------- weather map

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2021-12-07 06:07 PM | Reply

Yourcult....didn't see you there, little fella.

How's it going? You gonna try and make the varsity gymnastics team this year?

#57 | Posted by eberly

You gonna keep prying for personal info so you can focus on something besides your cult's efforts to end democracy?

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-07 06:14 PM | Reply

-You gonna keep prying for personal info

It's at least as purposeful as the ---- you spew, yourcult.

So, gymnastics team ... ... :varsity this year or still JV?

You might have a chance this year if you quit showing your ----- in your tights while watching the other boys warm up.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 07:02 PM | Reply

58

I get it. What you see is what's there.

Even in a fictional analogy. LOL

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2021-12-07 07:04 PM | Reply

"I riled up several here on 1/6 as it was unfolding when I chose to not agree that 1/6 was worse than 9/11."

The horribleness of 9/11 does not fully encompass what happened on 1/6.

Unless of course you believe 9/11 was an inside job. Then, 9/11 is worse all around.

But there's something about 1/6 that 9/11 doesn't have. It's the fact that Americans did it, to America. With help from Republicans. That's the part that makes it worse than 9/11, in terms of crossing the line towards Civil War.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2021-12-07 10:24 PM | Reply

" I get it. What you see is what's there. Even in a fictional analogy."

I suggested there's such a thing as absolute truth, and such a thing as gaslighting. To honest brokers, the latter will never equal the former, regardless how many times it's repeated or attempted.

#64 | Posted by Danforth at 2021-12-07 10:55 PM | Reply

You might have a chance this year if you quit showing your ----- in your tights while watching the other boys warm up.

#61 | Posted by eberly a

Jumping straight to the homophobic insults this time? Usually you dont do that til your stupid statements have trapped you in a corner.

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2021-12-08 12:58 PM | Reply

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