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Saturday, January 08, 2022

According to a new report from the University of Florida, most of the state's population will become infected with coronavirus in the latest omicron wave.

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"It's good news in the sense that the wave will be over certainly by the end of January," said Longini. "The bad news it's going to be very intense for the next couple weeks with lots of cases and it probably will put a strain on our hospital resources."

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One wonders what the effect of long-term COVID might be the result of omicron COViD infections.


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-01-07 08:20 PM | Reply

Womp womp.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-07 10:23 PM | Reply

Well, that does it... I'm moving my dental appt to after the end of the month. To many open mouths in a county where half the people aren't vaccinated.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-01-07 10:26 PM | Reply

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#4 | Posted by Corky at 2022-01-07 10:40 PM | Reply

I'm of the opinion that the omicron wave will infect most people, everywhere.

That, however, is not the operative question.

The question, in my mind, is how will the infected people react?

Will it be a mild case, even asymptomatic, because of vaccination?

Or will it be a more severe infection?

On a personal level, I saw the enemy on the horizon, and I have raised my defenses to help the Country by fighting the enemy attacking us.

How many Americans will just succumb, even join forces with, the enemy that is attacking us on our Home Soil?


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-01-07 10:47 PM | Reply

So far between myself and my wife we've met nine different people [two were a couple] who had Omicron - each and every one likened it to having a cold and three actually cited that they've had worse colds - go figure..... but yes, it does spread easily and rapidly.

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2022-01-07 10:53 PM | Reply

@#6 ... nine different people ...

Hardly a valid sample size.

You really don't draw a medical opinion from such a limited sample, do you?

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-01-07 11:06 PM | Reply

His opinion seems in line with what the doctors are saying, at least for vaccinated and boosted people.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-07 11:09 PM | Reply

@#8 ... His opinion seems in line with what the doctors are saying, at least for vaccinated and boosted people. ...

Yup.

That last phrase of your comment seems to be important here. "...vaccinated and boosted people..."

It wasn't mentioned in the comment I replied to, that is why I posed a question, trying to illicit more info.



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-01-07 11:18 PM | Reply

I feel like MSGT is conservative but he's not so stupid as to not be vaccinated.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-07 11:20 PM | Reply

@#10 ... I feel like MSGT is conservative but he's not so stupid as to not be vaccinated. ...

I try not to "feel" or "assume" what occurs behind the aliases who post here.

I try to comment on the posts, not whoever might be behind the posts.

I don't always succeed in that goal, but I do try. :)

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-01-07 11:27 PM | Reply

#6

9 different people? Sounds like a reasonable sample. As reasonable as you, at the least.

#12 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-01-07 11:42 PM | Reply

This variant is almost as infectious as Measles. I don't doubt Msgt's characterization, especially if they were vaccinated at some level. The issue is that this is infecting almost everyone, and out of that pool of everyone, there are many that aren't having such a good outcome. This is taxing the hospitals. Here the children's wards and ICU beds are filled. Positivity is over 40%, and we're still moving towards the peak.

Other states are going to have this same problem, I think. I don't think this is just because of idiots like DeathSentence or Lapad'oh!, they just got us there faster and all at once. Other states may learn from Florida and spread it out a bit, help keep their hospitals from being overtaxed.

In the meantime, if you're in Florida, try postponing any strokes, heart attacks, and major accidents that require a trip to the hospital.

#13 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-08 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Covid infection is associated with increased diabetes and dementia. The diabetes risk in kids is an increase of 30 to 300%. I don't know what the Covid equivalent of shingles is, but I don't want it.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2022-01-08 08:07 PM | Reply

So they should have the best natural immunity. Lucky them. I hope my vaxed protection is as good as their natural one.

#16 | Posted by jakester at 2022-01-08 09:22 PM | Reply

So can we quarantine the entire state of Florida?

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2022-01-08 09:23 PM | Reply

So they should have the best natural immunity. Lucky them.

You forgot about possible unknown side-effects long term. Not so lucky.

#18 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-08 09:31 PM | Reply

JAKESTER's vaxxed protection is significantly better than any natural. Those that have been infected AND have been vaxxed have the highest level of protection, significantly better than only vaxxed and vastly better than nonvaxxed+infected.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-01-08 09:32 PM | Reply

So they should have the best natural immunity. Lucky them.

62,000 death Floridians don't feel so lucky.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2022-01-08 09:37 PM | Reply

AOC must've brought it with her.

#15 | Posted by RUFFALO_ROB

Meanwhile trump is the person who was actually a super spreader. With a much less contagious variant no less.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-08 11:04 PM | Reply

FLORIDA:

- 6% of the US population
- 7.5% of COVID deaths - more than their percentage of the US population

CALIFORNIA:

- 11% of the US population
- 9.0% of COVID deaths - less than their percentage of the US population

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-01-08 11:15 PM | Reply

Thank you Governor DeSantis for keeping AU's aunt, Rogers, Corky snd sometimes YAV snd Danni safe.

#23 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2022-01-08 11:17 PM | Reply

That is because Florida has the OLDEST population of all 50 states. 29.9% of COVID deaths are in the age 65+ demographic

FLORIDA age 65+ is 20.9% of population
CALIFORNIA age 65+ is 14.9% of population

#24 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-01-09 06:31 AM | Reply

Many Floridians won't make it. I'm ok with that.

#25 | Posted by byrdman at 2022-01-09 07:46 AM | Reply

What have you got against Floridians?
Kinda weird the way Liberals hate large groups of people for no apparent reason, like where they live.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-01-09 07:51 AM | Reply

What have you got against Floridians?

#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

You mean Republican anti-vaxxers and disease magnets?

Can't think of a thing.

Gee, I wonder how many died since yesterday?

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-09 08:39 AM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Republicans don't care when other Republicans die. It's a corollary to not caring if other people die generally. The good thing about Republicans dying of COVID is that they're no longer around to convince others to die of COVID.

That's good for the country as a whole.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-09 08:47 AM | Reply

Kinda weird the way Liberals hate large groups of people for no apparent reason, like where they live.

#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2022-01-09 07:51 AM | FLAG: PPPPPFFFFFTTTTT

OMG... CA and TX get riffed on a lot here. A LOT With good reason... super rich states with a lot of poverty.

Besides, isn't FL really just a land full of mean Canadians?

But then... I'm in DC so don't get me started on how I feel about conservative out of towners coming up here and throwing poo on the walls like a bunch of monkeys.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-01-09 09:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Heard mentality.

They heard it was just the flu!

And 15 cases soon to be zero!

The good people of Florida are just more victims of the ignorance and hate of Trumpy and his trumpism.

The bad people deserve what they got.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-01-09 09:53 AM | Reply

Yes, let's return to running the unvaccinated based on where they live.

Unvaccinated person in Florida= POS who gets what they deserves

Unvaccinated person in New York = victim of the system. They need a special outreach program because ... ..well ... .just because.

It's almost as if we expect Floridians to be smarter than New Yorkers.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 10:23 AM | Reply

That is because Florida has the OLDEST population of all 50 states.

True. Adjusted for age, there are plenty of other reckless red states with more deaths than Florida.

www.bioinformaticscro.com

There are only 5-6 blue states in the top 25. What an embarrassment for Republicans that they're so insistent on dying to prove a political point.

#32 | Posted by JOE at 2022-01-09 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's almost as if we expect Floridians to be smarter than New Yorkers.

#31 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT

Or people from Kansas.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-09 10:30 AM | Reply

Thank you Governor DeSantis for keeping Andre Dawson rolling in cash.

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-01-09 10:30 AM | Reply

What an embarrassment for Republicans that they're so insistent on dying to prove a political point.

#32 | POSTED BY JOE

Dying of COVID is the same as throwing gang signs.

Republicans so want to belong.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-09 10:31 AM | Reply

Hardly a valid sample size.

#7 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2022-01-07 11:06 PM | FLAG:

In my household sample size of 4, where everybody is vaccinated, adults with boosters, everybody got Omicron. 1 day of being tired, that's it. The second shot and booster were both much worse in side effects.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 11:11 AM | Reply

Here the children's wards and ICU beds are filled. Positivity is over 40%, and we're still moving towards the peak.

#13 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-01-08 08:18 AM | FLAG:

The CDC's 7-day average for the national total of people under 18 being hospitalized is 766/day, In a country with 6000 hospitals. 60% admitted for Covid have "Severe Obesity".

If you have a very fat child, time to start caring about them.

#37 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 11:18 AM | Reply

#37 - that's nice, but the subject is Florida. My point in posting this is "look out, this is heading your way."
Also, please post a citation. I'd be interested in reading the stats and where they come from, how they are determined.
I'm curious how they determine "severe obesity" and what the other categories are.

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 11:26 AM | Reply

-My point in posting this is "look out, this is heading your way."

I'm not Hans but I'm curious if you had the same desire to post PSA type messages when New York was being ravaged.

You didn't have another point?

You didn't expect the responses you got on this thread?

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 11:34 AM | Reply

Not interested in your trolling, Eberly.
Try and have a decent day.
You seem like you're miserable lately.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 12:08 PM | Reply

#38 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-01-09 11:26 AM | FLAG:

Florida-ish. The topic is Covid and everybody getting it, they'll just lead the way. Since kids and filled hospitals got mentioned it crosses over into Sotomayor's claim that 100,000 kids are currently hospitalized from Covid. There's been only 83,818 admissions under 18 for Covid total in the US.

New Admissions of Patients with Confirmed Covid-19 per 100,000 Population by Age Group, US, Aug 1 2020 to Jan 6 2022

Characteristics and Clinical Outcomes of Children and Adolescents Aged

#41 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 12:14 PM | Reply

Yes. Florida-ish works.

There's a thread on Gorsuch' lies - and Sotomayor was brought up as a "whataboutism" to deflect. Ironically by the same people that are claiming Gorsuch didn't say "hundreds of thousands" but said "hundreds, thousands" (The official transcript from the Supreme Court says Gorsuch said "hundreds of thousands" of influenza deaths a year).

The argument over Sotomayor is whether she said "We have" and not "We've had."

The argument is spurious, though, as clearly shown on the Gorsuch thread. It is a ridiculous comparison - a false equivalency.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 12:25 PM | Reply

Not interested in your trolling, Eberly.
You seem like you're miserable lately.
#40 | POSTED BY YAV

I'm still amazed he spent two days defending Nazis.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-09 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Agreed.
To what end?
Entertainment at the cost of looking even worse for it at the end?
No one with any sense will engage him again.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 12:38 PM | Reply

No one with any sense will engage him again.

Sadly true.

#45 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-09 12:53 PM | Reply

I guess that leaves me!
Hi Eberly, hope you're having a wonderful new year!

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-09 01:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

LMAO!

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 02:14 PM | Reply

You seem like you're miserable lately.

#40 | Posted by YAV

Can you imagine how exhausting it is to spend every day pretending dems are a bigger problem than fascists?

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-09 02:26 PM | Reply

No. It must be, though.
Yet they do it, taxing as it is, for no apparent benefit.

#49 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 02:36 PM | Reply

Sunday, January 9th, 2022:
COVID-19 update: Florida reports 69,914 new cases; hospitalizations up 70% in one week.
The number of intensive care beds in Florida occupied by COVID-infected patients has increased 214% since Christmas.
Positivity rate continues to increase.
Testing sites continue to see wait times of several hours.
Good news: Death rate has not increased.
www.orlandosentinel.com

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 02:42 PM | Reply

You seem like you're miserable lately.

You got busted and you responded with a personal comment.

And a few jack holes probably joined in. People who can't leave without me

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 03:05 PM | Reply

CNN: Dr McBride
Fear isn't motivating. It just makes people feel out of control (& afraid).

Whether it's helping ppl lose weight or decide to get vaccinated, caring for patients (& the gen public) is abt arming people w information, tools, & nuanced guidance.

It's about giving people agency
twitter.com

Yav seems motivated by Tribalism (owning the Cons) and/or fear.

#EndTribalism
#StopTheFearMongering

#52 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-01-09 03:29 PM | Reply

If you are an old, white, reactionary, anti-vaxxer. then I guess DeSantis is your boy.

DeSanctis 2024 - Equal access to Covid for ALL Americans!

#53 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-01-09 03:33 PM | Reply

Yav, you and your little cult are so cute.

This thread isn't about COVID....it's about DeSantis.

Thanks for pretending it's a "but I just want warn people"

LOL....what a weak ass deflection.

You have to pretend everyone in Florida who has covid has done something wrong while everyone in New York hasn't.

It's obvious why anyone would work as hard and you and your cult to try to sell such an absurd narrative.

But you'll keep trying. That's a certainty

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 04:22 PM | Reply

-No one with any sense will engage him (Eberly)again.

LOL can't wait to watch you and the others with no sense engage me.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 04:25 PM | Reply

#50 Death rate not increasing is good news, BUT, the new variant is different, it doesn't seem to damage lungs as much, but we need more data before saying it will be less fatal or disabling.

I am guessing that 5% of people infected with Covid will be permanently disabled. It is a vascular disease, not a respiratory disease.
- source my butt, that works on a team studying long covid.

#56 | Posted by bored at 2022-01-09 04:38 PM | Reply

#42 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-01-09 12:25 PM | FLAG:

Had to go back to see. People flailing to defend her grammar was cute. The complete image... she's holed up in her office afraid to come out, and as read, quoting bad numbers to defend a policy that has many, many holes. Haven't read anything about Gorsuch's opinion so far. Only read hers because the line is so off it made WaPo, Reason, etc.

Isn't Gorsuch the "Natural Law" judge? Going to be all kinds of crazy stuff coming out of his office.

#57 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 05:18 PM | Reply

Defense of her language?
Did you miss the idiocy that started that?
The sheer dishonestly of Gorsuch, his propagation of nonsense and right-wing propaganda?
The "whatboutism" that brought Sotomayor in was ridiculous, but apparently it worked for some.

Yes the argument was silly. That was, at least for me, the intent. To throw back stupid at stupid. To shut down the idiocy of the false equivalence.

As Joe, Lamplighter, and others clearly stated; Coronavirus is not anything like the Flu, nor are the number of deaths associated with it. It was totally dishonest to even try and equate the two. Sotomayor got a number wrong, but not the core of what's being being judged. Gorsuch could have used any number and his argument remains just as wrong and just as dishonest.

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2022-01-09 05:47 PM | Reply

The sheer dishonestly of Gorsuch, his propagation of nonsense and right-wing propaganda?

Honestly, I'm unsure that the man knows any better. If Fox news is all he watches even a law degree can't save his brain.

#59 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-09 06:08 PM | Reply

#58 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-01-09 05:47 PM | FLAG:

Did I see it? I don't think so. I have a lot of plonks. Keeps the place readable.

In other Florida Covid news, AOC tests positive a week after vacation in FL. Not that I can knock somebody for vacationing in a super spreader state, they're open. I went there during the summer. It was nice.

#60 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 07:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

and Bob Saget just died in Florida. but probably not from Covid. but still, you suck Florida.

#61 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-09 07:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People who can't leave without me
#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Are they underage? Handicapped?

Are you the designated driver?

Did you hide the keys?

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-10 03:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I went there [Florida] during the summer. It was nice.
#60 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

You went to FL during summer and it was "nice"? You've got the season or the state confused. Florida in summer is most assuredly not "nice."

#63 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-01-10 05:32 AM | Reply

That's okay, 80% of Florida will have Skin Cancer in the
next decade, but they seem just right fine with that too...

#64 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-01-10 06:47 AM | Reply

"Come to Florida, and live on the edge!"

of sanity...

#65 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-01-10 06:48 AM | Reply

#63 I grew up in hot environments. It was nice. Hand fed a rhino at Busch Gardens. Under 70 degrees es no bueno.

#66 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-01-10 07:12 AM | Reply

Thank you Governor DeSantis for keeping AU's aunt, Rogers, Corky snd sometimes YAV snd Danni safe.

#23 | Posted by gracieamazed

They're keeping themselves safe with vaccinations and mask wearing in public ... and avoiding the unmasked/unmasked morons DeathSantis tells to go on like there isn't a pandemic raging.

#67 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-01-10 12:38 PM | Reply

don't know what the Covid equivalent of shingles is, but I don't want it.

#14 | POSTED BY BORED

Extremely unlikely there will be an equivalent.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 12:40 PM | Reply

That is because Florida has the OLDEST population of all 50 states. 29.9% of COVID deaths are in the age 65+ demographic

FLORIDA age 65+ is 20.9% of population
CALIFORNIA age 65+ is 14.9% of population
#24 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

I have to face palm whenever people say this.

Why?

Because it only furthers the notion that DeSantis is a negligent, sociopathic POS!

You're not rationalizing the numbers, you're proving the point about DeathSentence.

Think, McFly, think!

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rona Ron has zero shot at being president.

#70 | Posted by a_monson at 2022-01-10 03:42 PM | Reply

- Florida has roughly 4,500,000 residents over 65 with 62,688 reported COVID deaths in the state

- California has roughly 6,000,000 residents over 65 with 77,260 reported COVID deaths in the state

California, with 200% the population of Florida, has only 23% more COVID deaths

#71 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-01-10 05:55 PM | Reply

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