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Sunday, January 09, 2022

An Indiana state senator who is facing criticism for saying teachers must be impartial when discussing Nazism is walking back his remarks.

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#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-01-08 10:12 PM | Reply

He didn't help himself much with his clarification

Imagine being so worried that kids might learn the truth about slavery, segregation and native american genocide that you find yourself in the position of wanting to treat fascists, nazi's and other brutal regimes with kid gloves

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-01-08 11:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

How does he feel about the US declaring war on the Nazis? Was Pearl harbour a neutral event? Good people on both sides?

#3 | Posted by bored at 2022-01-09 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is the modern republican party.

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-01-09 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Breaking news: SSentinel is moving to Indiana in order to work for Sen. Scott Baldwin.

Together they will fight for the right of every Nazi.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-09 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Imagine being so worried that kids might learn the truth about slavery, segregation and native american genocide that you find yourself in the position of wanting to treat fascists, nazi's and other brutal regimes with kid gloves

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

Thats called being a modern republican.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-09 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Republicans are simply clearing the way for their fascists, nazi uprising.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-09 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly: "Nazis are a marginalized group"

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-09 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Blood sucking succubi and followers of Vlad the Impaler everywhere are worried that no one is speaking up for them. Why should the mass murderers of tens of millions of peaceful civilian populations throughout Europe get representation but not these other groups?

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-01-09 03:43 PM | Reply

I've got no issue with a policy requiring teachers to teach FACTS rather than opinions on ANY subject.

#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-01-09 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Why should the mass murderers of tens of millions of peaceful civilian populations throughout Europe get representation but not these other groups?"

Should teachers be obligated to hold the position that socialism is bad?

Communists killed far more people than national socialists?

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-01-09 06:18 PM | Reply

The point of education is to teach people how to think. Not what to think.

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-01-09 06:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

If we can't tell a child in history class that a nazi is bad...

What the ---- is the point.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-09 06:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Most of the history teachers I've had (yes, even in college) sold communism as a bad thing.

We read marx to get a different perspective on capitalism, not because communism is great.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-09 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What is the point of telling a child, "Nazi is bad."? Tell the child the facts, what the Nazis did. The child will reach the conclusion on their own that Nazis are bad. They don't need the teachers opinion to get there, and the lesson is a,ways stronger when they realize something on their own.

That is thediffernce between education and indoctrination. Teach the facts, not the opinions.

#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-01-09 09:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Some of the best teachers I had were those who could discuss controversial topics but keep you guessing about their personal political viewpoints. I remember one who said "come see me after you graduate" and I'll tell you where I stand. The never did, so I never found out.

#16 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-01-09 09:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

All these ----- who pretend they needed a history teacher to end the suspense on whether or not the Nazis were bad.

Otherwise they were in the fence with that ... ..

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 09:35 PM | Reply

-Most of the history teachers I've had (yes, even in college) sold communism as a bad thing.

LOL

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 09:36 PM | Reply

Breaking news: Reza is moving to England in order to be with the other -------.

Together, they will fight for the right of every pedo.

#19 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-01-09 09:45 PM | Reply

Is Communism A bad thing? From each according to their ability,to each according to their need.

Sounds almost humanistic, doesn't it?

A lot better than buy more cars and trucks, spend,spend, consume. Don't worry about others, it all about ME.

The Environment is meant for polluting. All in the name of "economic growth".

Seems kind of sh**ty to me. Capitalism will destroy the biosphere, one biome at a time until man himself is extinct.

Only then will the earth recover from all that "Growth".

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-09 09:45 PM | Reply

Truthurts: "Eberly raped me"

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 09:50 PM | Reply

"Breaking news: Reza is moving to England in order to be with the other -------.
Together, they will fight for the right of every pedo."

taking Alex and Truthy with him?

Whatever...just as long as they never leave this place. The blood from their ---- are the fuel of this place

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 09:52 PM | Reply

-Some of the best teachers I had were those who could discuss controversial topics but keep you guessing about their personal political viewpoints. I remember one who said "come see me after you graduate" and I'll tell you where I stand. The never did, so I never found out.

Same with me. I had a Western Civ professor who was quite an enigma. He could start some awesome discussions but none of us could figure where he leaned.

He is perhaps my inspiration for being a fence sitter in public

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-09 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you sure it's just in public? You are the single most confused and wishy washy person on here. No core values I can detect,just stupid circles that go nowhere.

And the saddest part is you think it's somehow "Edgy". Lol.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-09 11:01 PM | Reply

"If we can't tell a child in history class that a nazi is bad...What the ---- is the point."

By you reveal that the National Socialists were "bad" by providing students with the facts of what they did. Revealing your emotional response is probably OK, but does suggest a teacher is not able to objectively provide facts.

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-01-10 05:41 AM | Reply

"Most of the history teachers I've had (yes, even in college) sold communism as a bad thing."

That's a matter of opinion, though. Teachers shouldn't be in the business of selling anything. Marxism had it's costs and it's benefits. By providing those to a student honestly you allow them to determine, for themselves, whether it is good or bad.

Nation Socialism did not have any redeeming qualities. It would be hard to objectively state that it did. But that's unique. The only similar situation I can think of is ISIS, who also had no redeeming qualities. But I would hesitate to teach that the Taliban was "bad," or that Hugo Chavez was bad. Or that Communists were bad. It's a little bit more nuanced to me than that.

#26 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-01-10 05:45 AM | Reply

"Sounds almost humanistic, doesn't it?"

Until you realize that 100 million people died in the effort to achieve " From each according to their ability,to each according to their need."

Again, that doesn't make it bad or good. Maybe someone such as yourself sees 100 million dead as a worthy sacrifice on the way to that end.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-01-10 05:47 AM | Reply

"You are the single most confused and wishy washy person on here. No core values I can detect,just stupid circles that go nowhere."

People assign them to me all the time here. Surely you've noticed. LOL

If you bother to read my posts with an open mind, you would learn I do have core values.

You have the same problem most here do. You're stuck in We vs they.

You view me as an opponent. You need me to oppose you all the time. When I don't, then you see me as a fence sitter when it's possible I'm simply agreeing with you on a specific issue.

Life is easier for you when you're calling me a racist or fascist or Nazi or a sympathizer to any of those.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 08:24 AM | Reply

I don't view you as an opponent. I see a confused and insincere person looking to be "enigmatic". Failing at that and just being confused. Fence sitting is fine. Just don't expect anyone to believe anything you say or any opinions you express to be anything but expedient at the time. No core convictions.

Wherever the wind blows. Eberly follows.

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-10 10:29 AM | Reply

You're lost. Go play with someone else, Trumpvoter.

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 10:39 AM | Reply

Hmmm. Isn't waving the Confederate Battle Flag the same as taking a position on the 'Great Unpleasantness'? I think it says that having such flags and displaying them is to take the loser's position. Lots of sons of the south in Indiana, and I'll wager this master debater is one of them. I hear he also paints himself into corners with every floor...

#31 | Posted by catdog at 2022-01-10 01:01 PM | Reply

All these ----- who pretend they needed a history teacher to end the suspense on whether or not the Nazis were bad.

Otherwise they were in the fence with that ... ..

#17 | Posted by eberly

From the guy who's on the fence about whether or not trumpism is bad.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:11 PM | Reply

Hopefully the teach that nazis aren't a marginalized group.

Certain posters around here need that lesson.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you bother to read my posts with an open mind, you would learn I do have core values.

#28 | Posted by eberly

We know. Your core value is defending the indefensible. Playing WHATABOUT THE DEMS and offering false equivalencies to try and hide the fact that your party has become a fascist cult.

That is at the core of all you do.

Then when you get called out on it, you turn every thread into personal drama and start calling names and throwing around homophobic insults.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:14 PM | Reply

32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-01-10 01:11 PM | FLAG:

You support brutal violence as long as those engaging in it pledge support to your cult. Until you clean your own house you really need to shut the eff up.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:15 PM | Reply

You support brutal violence as long as those engaging in it pledge support to your cult. Until you clean your own house you really need to shut the eff up.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

I do? What do kind of violence do I support and in what situation?

You are the king of declaring your paranoid fantasies to be reality. Tucker carlson tells you trump's dick is 10 feel long and you just start drooling.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:18 PM | Reply

#33. You equate challenging mandates on the grounds of freedom, liberty and our institution as "facism". It's hilarious but also sad.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:18 PM | Reply

#36. Oh So you were/are opposed to the 2020 riots and all of the carnage?

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:20 PM | Reply

#36. I don't watch cable news you fricking imbecile.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:21 PM | Reply

#33. You equate challenging mandates on the grounds of freedom, liberty and our institution as "facism". It's hilarious but also sad.

#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

No, I equate challenging mandates with childish, selfish narcissists. It just so happens that that group frequently equals the gop/fascist party.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:21 PM | Reply

#40 go supply a Molotov cocktail to your goon squad.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:25 PM | Reply

Truthhurts.

Do you like the Patriot Act? Do you understand the concept of slippery slope?

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:26 PM | Reply

#40 go supply a Molotov cocktail to your goon squad.

#41 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Go suck the ---- of the treasonous scum that tried to overthrow democracy.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:26 PM | Reply

#33. You equate challenging mandates on the grounds of freedom, liberty and our institution as "facism". It's hilarious but also sad.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger

No I equate replacing democracy with a system where one party can overturn any election it loses as fascism, because that's what it is.

I equate a party that uses the justice department to hide it's crimes and attack it's enemies as fascim, because that's what it is, and that's what you support. Because you're a fascist.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:27 PM | Reply

Do you like the Patriot Act? Do you understand the concept of slippery slope?

#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Nope

Do you realize that the slope is slippery from the --- and drool you spit out from sucking -------- ----?

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:27 PM | Reply

#36. Oh So you were/are opposed to the 2020 riots and all of the carnage?

#38 | Posted by BellRinger

You tell me. What do your fox news rotted brain tell you a liberal like me supported or opposed?

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:28 PM | Reply

Do you understand the concept of slippery slope?

#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Slippery slope - like spending years saying the election system is rigged until millions of morons support fascism?

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 01:29 PM | Reply

You don't give a ---- about Democracy. You masturbated while your ideological kin were setting fire to government buildings.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:29 PM | Reply

The threat to America isn't from those who attempt to overthrow an election, it is from people who want to assure everyone has access to healthcare.

-Gunga Dimwit

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#44. That may be the biggest act of projection I've ever seen.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:30 PM | Reply

You don't give a ---- about Democracy. You masturbated while your ideological kin were setting fire to government buildings.

#48 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You don't give a ---- about democracy. You joke about the attempt to overthrow democracy. You know, how that shows you "support" democracy.

Did Biden win the 2020 election fair and square?

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:31 PM | Reply

tell me. What do your fox news rotted brain tell you a liberal like me supported or opposed?

#46 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-01-10 01:28 PM | FLAG:

I don't watch cable news. I've observed you on multiple occasions cheering the 2020 carnage because killing, assaulting, looting and arson were totally justified because it was supposedly in the name of a cause you clam to support.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:35 PM | Reply

You don't give a ---- about Democracy. You masturbated while your ideological kin were setting fire to government buildings.
#48 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
How are these two things supposed to be related?

If the police murder me like they murdered George Floyd, please burn down their police station. Please.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I've observed you on multiple occasions cheering the 2020 carnage"

BELLRINGER
Joined 2021/02/07

^
What username were you observing that from?

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 01:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Did Biden win the 2020 election fair and square?

It is a simple question and goes to the heart of whether one believes in democracy or not.

I say unequivocally YES, Biden won the election.

That means I believe in democracy.

How about you, gunga dimwit?

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:38 PM | Reply

What is 'hillbilly heroin'?

Kudzu: That was answered twice, why was the question posted? Just curious...

Within hours of hitting the market the safety features had been defeated so it could be injected.

#56 | Posted by mattm at 2022-01-10 01:42 PM | Reply

#55 from a vote count standpoint Biden won the election. I have yet to see any evidence that fraud was significant enough to swing the result.

Time magazine published a massive article after the election that showed it wasn't a fair election by any measure. Of course they were gleeful but what they exposed and admitted was frightening.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:43 PM | Reply

>#33. You equate challenging mandates on the grounds of freedom, liberty and our institution as "facism". It's hilarious but also sad.

#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Well, at the very least it's uninformed, ignorant stupidity...

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 01:44 PM | Reply

Time magazine published a massive article after the election that showed it wasn't a fair election by any measure. Of course they were gleeful but what they exposed and admitted was frightening.

#57 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Oh please share. This should be good.

#59 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 01:45 PM | Reply

58 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2022-01-10 01:44 PM | FLAG:

The boot licker weighs in as expected.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:46 PM | Reply

#55 from a vote count standpoint Biden won the election. I have yet to see any evidence that fraud was significant enough to swing the result.
Time magazine published a massive article after the election that showed it wasn't a fair election by any measure. Of course they were gleeful but what they exposed and admitted was frightening.

#57 | POSTED BY BELLRING

So, you can't state that Biden won the election fair and square. Citing some article that supposedly showed it wasn't fair

Congrats, you are anti-democratic.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:47 PM | Reply

#59. Ok. You can Google it but I will do the light lifting for you ...

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:48 PM | Reply

time.com

You mean this article?

"Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,"

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:49 PM | Reply

#61. I will provide a link ...

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:49 PM | Reply

"Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,"

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 01:53 PM | Reply

" That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream"a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; "

time.com

Granted, the author was floating but she also gave away the game. I have yet to see a single "mainstream" outlet dispute her characterization.

#66 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:56 PM | Reply

Truthhurts you are a fascist. That you decry fascism is hilarious.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 01:58 PM | Reply

The boot licker weighs in as expected.

#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

DuHHhhHhhH BoOTlIcKKEr!!

No. Just acknowledging the centuries of case law supporting the use of mandates and other public health measures.

Try living in reality instead of saying "thTaS UncONsTiTuTionLA!" over anything you don't like cuz you have a childish level understanding of freedumb.

#68 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 01:59 PM | Reply

#68. Are these actually vaccines? Or have they become the equivalent of flu shots?

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 02:04 PM | Reply

I've taken three shots. I don't like carrying that card in my wallet - Your papers, please.

That was a real thing. And it's something lefties pine for.

#70 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 02:10 PM | Reply

Are these actually vaccines? Or have they become the equivalent of flu shots?

#69 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

If you're asking this question with a straight face you should just stop.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What username were you observing that from?

------------- was so broken by Trump's loss he had to change his username.

#72 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2022-01-10 02:17 PM | Reply

#71. I've taken three shots.

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 02:17 PM | Reply

72 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2022-01-10 02:17 PM | FLAG:
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Careful. Lefties are all about political violence. But most of them are repulsed by animal cruelty.

#74 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 02:24 PM | Reply

#74

That's between you and your gerbil.

#75 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-01-10 02:27 PM | Reply

Fascinating. I don't spend as much time here as many of you. But I have yet to see a thread where Bellringer wasn't lying about, or attempting to revise history in some way to fit his twisted opinion. That seems to be his only shtick.

#76 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-01-10 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't give a ---- about Democracy. You masturbated while your ideological kin were setting fire to government buildings.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger

How was burning those buildings a threat to democracy?

Your cult stormed the capitol FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF ENDING DEMOCRACY.

#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 02:33 PM | Reply

Time magazine published a massive article after the election that showed it wasn't a fair election by any measure. Of course they were gleeful but what they exposed and admitted was frightening.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger

I love hearing a cult who gets a massive advantage in both the senate and electoral college whining about what is fair.

Is it FAIR that a person who gets fewer votes wins and election, and the person who gets more votes loses?

#78 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 02:35 PM | Reply

#68. Are these actually vaccines? Or have they become the equivalent of flu shots?

#69 | Posted by BellRinger

Flu shots ARE vaccines you drooling moron.

#79 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 02:36 PM | Reply

You masturbated while your ideological kin were setting fire to government buildings.
#48 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I wonder if Bellringer would acknowledge that his "ideological kin" ALSO played a significant role in the violence of Summer 2020?

A Trump security chief acknowledges role of white supremacist extremists in U.S. urban violence

Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police

#80 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-01-10 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#71. I've taken three shots.

#73 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Doesn't change the nature of your terrible question.

#81 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-10 02:49 PM | Reply

All these ----- who pretend they needed a history teacher to end the suspense on whether or not the Nazis were bad.
Otherwise they were in the fence with that ... ..
#17 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Was the genocide of native Americans good or bad?

Based on every history book I read in grade school, it was neutral, bloodless, painless. It happened. It's only a couple paragraphs in a book about the history of America.

If Nazis had won WW2, I don't doubt the Holocaust would be written in such manner.

#82 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-10 02:54 PM | Reply

I've taken three shots.
#73 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Of course you have!

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-10 02:54 PM | Reply

Was the genocide of native Americans good or bad?

In the long run, of course it was good.

In a mere 4 centuries or so, it allowed the North American continent to go from a smattering barbaric collection of gut-eating, Stone Age tribes to home of the wealthiest and most technologically advanced civilizations the world has ever know.

Hard to argue that's not a good thing, Reza.

#84 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-01-10 03:45 PM | Reply

In the long run, of course it was good.

Too bad you weren't there to do PR for the third Reich.

Perhaps you'll find your home in the fourth.

#85 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-10 03:52 PM | Reply

Curious to know why genocide was necessary fir all that...

#86 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 03:53 PM | Reply

#55 from a vote count standpoint Biden won the election.
#57 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

There's other standpoints?
Go on...

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 03:55 PM | Reply

"I have yet to see any evidence that fraud was significant enough to swing the result."

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Do you think the result is fraudulent?

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 03:56 PM | Reply

I've taken three shots. I don't like carrying that card in my wallet - Your papers, please.
That was a real thing. And it's something lefties pine for.
#70 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Meanwhile, you demand papers for voting...

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 03:58 PM | Reply

-If Nazis had won WW2....

Yeah...and thanks for confirming that, Capt. Obvious.

Does that in any way change the reality that nobody was unsure about the Nazis since the end of WW2?

You didn't need a history teacher to clear that up for you.

You're right...the victors get to write history.

Especially regarding the native americans.

"Too bad you weren't there to do PR for the third Reich.
Perhaps you'll find your home in the fourth."

Look Mao!! Clown called you a Nazi. That's the drudge retort equivalent of saying "stop beating my ass in this debate. I have nothing left but to call you a nazi.....or something"

LOL

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 04:40 PM | Reply

The shock value of "must be neutral on Nazi's" is pretty upsetting, but once you step back and think about it having a teacher discuss a topic from a neutral point makes sense.

They can present the topic, what nazi's did, what their drivers were, etc... as well as present the fact that history has deemed their thoughts and actions as vile.

In fact I'd prefer they be locked into the facts and no editorializing... who's to say the teacher isn't a little to friendly with his areas skin heads?

#91 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2022-01-10 04:46 PM | Reply

Does that in any way change the reality that nobody was unsure about the Nazis since the end of WW2?

#90 | Posted by eberly

Nobody?

www.independent.co.uk

Donald Trump 'kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside cabinet'

In a 1990 interview, the billionaire businessman admitted to owning Nazi leader's 'Mein Kampf'
A 1990 Vanity Fair article about billionaire businessman stated that Mr Trump's then wife Ivana, said her husband owned a copy of "My New Order" " a printed collection of the Nazi leader's speeches.

A moron who reads almost NOTHING decides the one book he'll read was written by hitler.

Nothing anyone should be concerned about is it? Just settle down onto that fence post a little deeper...

#92 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 04:51 PM | Reply

Please. Send more nazis!

As a marine I think we need more Nazis.

The more targets the better. I prefer to be surrounded by them.

As you know the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

So I think I would enjoy making all them bad Nazis become good little Nazis.

#93 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-01-10 04:51 PM | Reply

#93 It's hard to believe you're a real marine since you seem like a colossal ----- and keyboard warrior, but if true I thank you for your service.

#94 | Posted by RUFFALO_ROB

The party that's terrified of everyone voting is calling someone else a -----.

#95 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 05:24 PM | Reply

Ruffalo Rob is a very wise individual.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 05:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The party that's still collectively pissing themselves over the great loitering of Jan. 6 are in fact -------.

#96 | Posted by RUFFALO_ROB

Wait I thought it was an FBI false flag operation? Or was it ANTIFA? You need to hold a klan meeting and agree on what lie to tell.

You're going to spend the rest of your lives trying to convince people that things they saw with their own eyes didn't happen.

Anyone dumb enough to believe it is already in your cult. Everyone else laughs at you.

#98 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 05:46 PM | Reply

"Wait I thought it was an FBI false flag operation? Or was it ANTIFA?"

No, silly; it was BLM.

In whiteface.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 05:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

the great loitering

#96 | POSTED BY RUFFALO_ROB

Easy to find the Nazis. I mean, they're not shy.

#100 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-10 05:48 PM | Reply

For Zed a Nazi/fascist is anyone who disagrees with him.

#101 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 05:53 PM | Reply

#101 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

If being described as a fascist hurts you then it must be pressing against some sort of open, suppurating, maggot-laden wound.

#102 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-10 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For Zed a Nazi/fascist is anyone who disagrees with him.

#101 | Posted by BellRinger

A fascist is anyone who replaces democracy with a system where they win no matter what.

And anyone who votes for them.

(that's you)

#103 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#103. Yet you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 06:01 PM | Reply

#103. Yet you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy.

#104 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

There you have it folks, the double speak insanity of today's fascist.

2020 Presidential election was lost by Joe Biden and though he is now president, somehow liberals believe that him becoming president is end of democracy.
Cause we lost, despite Biden being president.

Wow, my head hurts.

#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 06:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#103. Yet you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy.
#104 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It's hard to argue Trump's win was a win for Democracy, seeing as he got seven million fewer votes.

Do you call that democracy?

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 06:12 PM | Reply

If the election is stolen by state legislatures in defiance of the actual vote then democracy is indeed lost. If the rules are altered to predetermine the outcome,democracy is lost.

This is not controversial.The republicans should be on board with voting rights legislation if they are serious about preventing fraud and abuses.

Are they? Everything they do is in bad faith.

So no, I don't believe them at all, about anything.

#107 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-10 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#105. Your head should hurt because that post was incredibly stupid. Joe Biden won the 2020 election. I've never said otherwise

#108 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 06:17 PM | Reply

"I've never said otherwise"

Except with your votes.

#109 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 06:21 PM | Reply

"Joe Biden won the 2020 election."

Not according to President Donald J. TRUMP or the GOP.

Are they lying?

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 06:22 PM | Reply

"The republicans should be on board with voting rights legislation if they are serious about preventing fraud and abuses."

Which is laughable. The only thing they're interested in, is committing said frauds and abuses.

#111 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy

How else to describe a party who insists on things like fake election audits by unqualified hacks, sowing discord over legitimate results, replacing nonpartisan state/local elections officials with people absolutely loyal to one candidate, making it harder for certain people to vote etc.? It may all be incremental and not some dramatic and immediate end to democracy, but it all points in that direction whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

#112 | Posted by JOE at 2022-01-10 06:27 PM | Reply

#108 You think you're so clever. I saw that coming a Long way off. If the repukes win FAIRLY, democracy is not lost. If they LOSE fairly and the state legislatures step in with replacement electors,than I see a big problem, don't you? I mean you're for free and fair elections, right? If Biden won fairly and Trump beats him in 2024 than I think the Dems would not rebel like the repukes did.

Do you see that happening? Honestly?

#113 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-10 06:28 PM | Reply

"you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy"

No, that's what Trumpers have been doing.

Before the election, Trump repeatedly proclaimed the only way he could lose is if the election is rigged.

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 06:29 PM | Reply

Trumpers literally committed fraud and sent fake slates of electors to Congress claiming to be the legitimate ones chosen by the voters. And Jeff doesn't think that's dangerously antidemocratic. Because he's a hack.

#115 | Posted by JOE at 2022-01-10 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Trumpers literally committed fraud and sent fake slates of electors to Congress claiming to be the legitimate ones chosen by the voters. And Jeff doesn't think that's dangerously antidemocratic."

He's a Cafeteria Constitutionalist.

#116 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#103. Yet you describe an election you lose as the end of democracy.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger

What election did I lose?

#117 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 06:51 PM | Reply

#118 |

Questioning a loss legally isn't the same thing as inciting or participating in a deadly riot of seditionists.

These two things are only the same in your head.

#120 | Posted by Corky at 2022-01-10 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"have an election they won questioned"

Oh I see.
It wasn't a riot.
It was a question.

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 08:48 PM | Reply

Weren't that big a deal compared to what, the murder and cover-up of George Floyd.

Which do you think was the bigger deal?

#123 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 08:56 PM | Reply

Look Mao!! Clown called you a Nazi.
#90 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Guess that means you're going to have to relentlessly defend Nazis.

#124 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-10 09:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It was a riot, and Democrats spent all the previous summer making the case that riots weren't that big a deal.

#122 | Posted by RUFFALO_ROB

And republicans have spent every day since making the case that attempting to overthrow democracy is no worse than looting a Target superstore.

#125 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-10 09:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


In the long run, of course it was good.
In a mere 4 centuries or so, it allowed the North American continent to go from a smattering barbaric collection of gut-eating, Stone Age tribes to home of the wealthiest and most technologically advanced civilizations the world has ever know.
Hard to argue that's not a good thing, Reza.
#84 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT AT 2022-01-10 03:45 PM | REPLY

Everyone needs to read this post. This is the true face of the republican party: Vile racism as a virtue. Not the fence post pretense of eberly or jeffj. This is who they really are.

#127 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 10:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Not the fence post pretense of eberly or jeffj"

Everybody needs to read the above post by Alex.
The true face of total weaksauce wimps who offer nothing

You're so weak. Everyone who has argued with you is a racist?

There is literally no standard to make that accusation. Just none.

What happened? You catch your wife getting cucked by the UPS guy again?

#129 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 10:36 PM | Reply

Read maos post and tell me it's not super bigoted.
I dare you.

#130 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 10:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Mao must be a racist. Eberly is blowing him.

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 10:39 PM | Reply

Read maos post and tell me it's not super bigoted.

Would you expect anything less?

#132 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-01-10 10:40 PM | Reply

Redial! Post a link!!

Never mind ... ..

Alex, you called me out as a racist in a post responding to another made by Mao and then I defend myself and you conclude that is defending Mao?

Did you get off when you caught your wife squirting on the UPS guy?

I can't possibly try to be as absurd as you but I'll try.

#133 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 10:46 PM | Reply

If eberly ever stood for anything it would be the first time.

#134 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 10:47 PM | Reply

Eberly: "Nazis are a marginalized group"

#135 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-10 10:48 PM | Reply

Not that I owe you my opinion of mao's post any more than anybody else but it was bigoted.

What I stand for is something you'll never see.

You don't care. Your aspirations are to be a troll like snoofy and twoothy.

You're too weak to accomplish anything else.

#136 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:01 PM | Reply

Alex, have you ever accomplished anything?

Ever?

Anything to hang your hat on?

Or is trolling me it? The best you can or ever will do?

#137 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:07 PM | Reply

Says eberly, the dr punching bag.

Go put a few fingers into sentinel again.

#138 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:12 PM | Reply

#129

Patriotism used to be the last refuge of a scoundrel. Now it's screaming racist and racism about everything.

#139 | Posted by willowby at 2022-01-10 11:14 PM | Reply

The riots killed more black people than Chauvin did.
#126 | POSTED BY RUFFALO_ROB

The police killed more black people than the riots did.

#140 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-10 11:14 PM | Reply

Willowby- read #84 and get back to me.

#141 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:15 PM | Reply

"We're Patriots!"- Trumpers in the Capitol 1-6

"Racist!!" - Alex literally every day on the DR begging for attention

#142 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Poor eberly is going to frantically explode.

LOL

#143 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:18 PM | Reply

Alex is going to double down on his effort to prove what a -------- he is.

He is demanding that everyone accept that a post by MAO is proof that someone NOT MAO is a racist.

#144 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:20 PM | Reply

Poor Alex. Flunked out of a juco because he couldn't get enough BBC

#145 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:21 PM | Reply

How do mao's balls taste, eberly?

Are they better than Sentinels?

#146 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:21 PM | Reply

Poor Alex. Flunked out of a juco because he couldn't get enough BBC

#145 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-01-10 11:21 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You're a homophobe too.

#147 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:22 PM | Reply

#146 Alexandrite is an expert on how balls taste. He even measures the salinity in the sweat.

#148 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-10 11:23 PM | Reply

Jeff J sits on the sidelines, hoping after 15 years of posting on DR he might finally learn what a strawman is.

#149 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:24 PM | Reply

I'd ask alexthecuck how Yourcults ass tastes but not even that ------ would let him in there.

#150 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:25 PM | Reply

alexthecuck

Ebs not a racist or a gay basher, he just uses their vernacular perfectly.

It's a coincidence.

#151 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:27 PM | Reply

You finally hit your goal of accusing someone here of being a racist 1 million times.

RCADE said he now owes you a commemorative coin with the image of a KKK hood one 1 side and a picture of trump on the other.

Now he wants to remind you however that you can't spend it in a truck stop mens room.

#152 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Now he wants to remind you however that you can't spend it in a truck stop mens room.

#152 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-01-10 11:32 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Stay classy, kid.

#153 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:33 PM | Reply

Alex, you'll have to deal with your demons yourself.

You are obsessed with me and I can't solve your problems.

Do you understand?

#154 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I can see why snoofy spends so much time pinning you to the wall. ebs. Your meltdowns are legendary and hilarious.
You go from above it all erudite poser...to truck stop trash mouth hillbilly in 3.5 seconds.

#155 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:38 PM | Reply

"couldn't get enough BBC"
~Eb
"how Yourcults ass tastes"
~Eb
"you can't spend it in a truck stop mens room."
~Eb

You seem obsessed with gay images and instances. Anything you'd like to share with the class?

#156 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 11:40 PM | Reply

FYI- Anyone I've ever heard say or seen type "----" is a trumper or a trumper wannabe.

It's not left or right or on the fence, it's FAR RIGHT. Language always gives people away...

#157 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:42 PM | Reply

I rise (or lower with you) to the occasion

But tomorrow I'll go to my office around 9. Earn my keep. Plan a vacation for March, and write a check for 2 kids for their spring semester.

I have no reason to really concern myself with you.

You can go spoon with snoofy.

#158 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:44 PM | Reply

But tomorrow I'll go to my office around 9. Earn my keep. Plan a vacation for March, and write a check for 2 kids for their spring semester.

I really love the humble bragging you do, especially about your charity.

You are very small inside, incredibly insecure and it's plain to see.

Get a shrink.

#159 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:45 PM | Reply

-Anything you'd like to share with the class?

Like what?

I've been posting here for a while now

You think I've been a closet gay all this time?

No, you don't.

#160 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:46 PM | Reply

"a check for 2 kids for their spring semester."

Sounds like the little guy survived and is doing well. Did your daughter decide on a (I won't call it "major") direction?

#161 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 11:47 PM | Reply

"You think I've been a closet gay all this time?"

No, but I think you think it's a more clever slur than it is.

#162 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-10 11:48 PM | Reply

Such hurtful words.

I have seen so much hatred from you since you started crying on 1-6 started hitting me with your ----- filled purse.

#163 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:49 PM | Reply

Danforth, let's call this what it is. A gutterfest. The worst kind of flame war.

Alex asserts a post by Mao means I'm a racist.

I responded in kind. Nothing else.

Nobody gives a ----.

Family is doing great. Oldest is selecting a law school in another month or so. Great options and scholarships.

The next one is a freshmen majoring in engineering and our surprise is just an 8th grader. Doing great. Thanks for asking

#164 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:53 PM | Reply

Eberly- you responded like you always do when challenged, like Kavanaugh without the law degree.

#165 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:55 PM | Reply

How's your family, Alex?

LOL

#166 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:57 PM | Reply

My family is great, actually.

Why the LOL?

#167 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-10 11:58 PM | Reply

Because the question is funny

Your response is even funnier.

Thanks, BTW.

#168 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-10 11:59 PM | Reply

Thanks for what?

#169 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-11 12:01 AM | Reply

"Family is doing great. Oldest is selecting a law school in another month or so. Great options and scholarships. The next one is a freshmen majoring in engineering and our surprise is just an 8th grader. Doing great"

That doesn't happen in a vacuum. Nice job; I hope you're proud.

#170 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-11 12:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For being you, of course.

#171 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-11 12:02 AM | Reply

I'm secure in the knowledge that if I ever decide to join a marginalized group, like the nazis, that eberly will be on the DR to defend me.

#172 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-11 12:04 AM | Reply

Thank you Danforth, sincerely.

Not only is it just damn nice regardless but you're trying to pave a road out this gutter.

I'll follow that road and move along away from Alex.

Thanks again.

#173 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-11 12:05 AM | Reply

-I'm secure ... ..

Stop it!! I'm going to piss myself.

#174 | Posted by eberly at 2022-01-11 12:07 AM | Reply

You've already pissed the whole thread. Go for it.

#175 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-11 12:07 AM | Reply

"you're trying to pave a road out this gutter."

Nah, I just ignore it. It's the Pollyanna in me.

Tougher to ignore it when you're the target, though; that much I'll admit. I'll also freely admit you're often one against many.

#176 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-01-11 12:08 AM | Reply

#174

Do you pay yourself when you do that?

#177 | Posted by Corky at 2022-01-11 12:09 AM | Reply

Who knew America was so filled with wannabe
would be fascists all around? Most of them
probably don't even realize how much fascism's
full embrace would change this country permanently.

More wannabe intellectual idiots playing with fire.

It's sad when you even have to have the conversation
with your son (in his 20's) that we may have to
explore options of leaving the country should it go
bad. I can't count the ways this nation has fallen
down since I was a midwestern boy growing up in
Nebraska in the 1970's. It's been a 'downhill slide'
ever since...

#178 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-01-11 06:48 AM | Reply

Imagine being so worried that kids might learn the truth about slavery, segregation and native american genocide that you find yourself in the position of wanting to treat fascists, nazi's and other brutal regimes with kid gloves

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-01-08 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well...those are his voters.

No one will ever accuse the modern GOP of doing the right thing these days.

They have sold out what little morality they had left out for an orange spray tan.

When someone with principles stands up in the party they are ridiculed, stripped of committees, kicked out of the party and then primaried into retirement so someone that promises fealty to the bloated orange traitor will take their place.

#179 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-01-11 07:28 AM | Reply

I'm going to piss myself.

#174 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Again?

#180 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-01-11 09:57 AM | Reply

This is the modern GQP: a slow creep towards Communist-style dictatorship.
No wonder Trump aligned with them while worshipping Duterte, Kim, Xi, and Putin.

#181 | Posted by e1g1 at 2022-01-11 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't watch cable news. I've observed you on multiple occasions cheering the 2020 carnage because killing, assaulting, looting and arson were totally justified because it was supposedly in the name of a cause you clam to support.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger

Another lie.

Another example of you simply imagining the real world is whatever right wing propagandists tell you it is.

And you keep buying it like a chump. No matter how many times they're lies are exposed. You'll keep swallowing more.

#182 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-01-11 01:18 PM | Reply

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