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Rapid firing half baked content to hit algorithms (online content delivery model) is what's hurting Hollywood from my viewer perspective.
Most folks have limited time to consume content, so when studios shotgun blast content production to have content for content's sake, rather than investing in an original and polished piece of art, it hurts the whole scene, IMO.

#1 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2022-01-14 05:54 PM | Reply

I quit watching TV a long time ago. It's all regurgitated vomit. I don't miss it either.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-01-14 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Someone said it best on a prior thread.

Too many movies made for foreign audiences mean less dialogue and more action/cgi.

Writing in Hollywood movies has been boiled down to catch phrases and everything is shot in a green screen laden sound stage.

Also.

Most people want to "watch" something they can ignore while looking at their smart phones.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-14 06:04 PM | Reply

This is just another nonsensical reverse racism screed.

Trust me Hollywood will do just fine and guess what, get away from Disney/WB movies (ie superhero movies) and there is a great deal of awesome movies/tv shows out there.

And you know what, movies/tv shows with non-white hetero male centric stories can actually be good.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-01-14 06:18 PM | Reply

- non-white hetero male centric stories can actually be good.

When restorers of ancient statues in places like Rome actually restore what we are used to seeing in weathered white to the original colors... no one really likes them. It isn't what we are used to seeing.

Colorized versions of movies from the 20's and 30's can also be unlikeable because we expect to see something different.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2022-01-14 06:50 PM | Reply

Wokeness doesn't kill Hollywood, Alec Baldwin kills Hollywood.

#6 | Posted by JOE at 2022-01-14 07:02 PM | Reply

Hollydud has long been bankrupt for its' own narrative on movie themes. Now mostly driven by comic book heroes and stories, it is more computer graphic content and less real acting. Computer graphics and effects by themselves do not a great story make.

#7 | Posted by BBQ at 2022-01-14 07:24 PM | Reply

I know ... a series ... but I'm looking forward to seeing Avatar 2 later this year only to see WTF James Cameron has been working on for 10+ years

#8 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2022-01-14 07:42 PM | Reply

"I'm all for LGBT and Native Americans, blacks, females, whatever minorities that have not been served correctly in the making of content, whether it's television or movies or whatever, but I think it's gone too far. I know a lot of very talented people that can't get work because they're not black, Native American, female or LGBTQ."

There are only a limited number of slots in any production. In the past, a lot of very talented marginalized people were purposely excluded. Now that they are being included, some whites are naturally going to be excluded. This loss of white privilege, in essence, is what is fueling the white rage that has America on edge. All of a sudden, "whites only" opportunities that whites took for granted, have to be shared amongst a larger, more diverse group of people. Welcome to the feeling that marginalized people have always felt i.e. that you have to be twice as good just to have an opportunity to compete. Whiteness is no longer a go-to-the-head-of-the-line card.

Given the seemingly explosion in the number of productions (TV, streaming services, movies, etc.), it is hard to imagine anyone with talent being out of work. It may not be the work that would lead to being a star but it would seem like there should be plenty of work (excluding the impact of the pandemic of course).

#9 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-01-15 06:13 AM | Reply

I thought The Tender Bar was fine.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-01-15 10:30 AM | Reply

559 scripted shows in production.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

If actors and production can't find work, it's because they're lazy. This has been coming since 2016. They should've been prepared.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-01-15 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Whites having to share resources.

#12 | Posted by fresno500 at 2022-01-15 05:58 PM | Reply

Fres,

"Whites having to share resources."

That's not the problem.

I've said before you can't make people like you.

And you can't make people pay to watch stuff they aren't interested.

I never watch black themed films or marshall arts.

Also don't like horror films or crazy killers.

Does woke stuff make money?

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-15 10:54 PM | Reply

But you're good with "Brokeback Mountain".

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-01-16 01:31 AM | Reply

Proselytizing when people who show up want to be entertained is a stupid business model. But, whatever.

I have "Trading Places" on DVD - can watch a funny flick any time I want. To hell with this woke preachy crap. I ain't watching it.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-01-16 02:00 AM | Reply

Nobody wants to watch "Whiteman saves the world" movies anymore. Especially when the "woke" crowd's life experience does not believe in. Your real-life reputation is finally overtaking PR reputation.

Its as simple as that.

#17 | Posted by fresno500 at 2022-01-16 04:51 AM | Reply

Legal,

"But you're good with "Brokeback Mountain""

Why not just call me ---?

Lot less typing.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 07:28 AM | Reply

Ruf,

"If you need someone to look like you to enjoy a movie, you're racist."

I was waiting for someone to say racist.

Surprised it happened so quick.

I guess I'm murderphobic because I don't care to see slasher films?

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 07:31 AM | Reply

Legal,

Your post demonstrates how people memorize being trained to not use certain words but actually lack genuine empathy and have not internalized a personal understanding.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 07:43 AM | Reply

Bell,

You know...I personally suspect there was a singular moment when middle America really got it just how much liberal Hollywood despises half of this country.

It was when Robert Deniro, a respected and liked "everyman" actor, got on live TV during an awards show watched by millions and said F Trump.

I'm nearly beyond being shocked anymore but that set me back.

I can well imagine it hit quite a few people the way it hit me.

#21 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 09:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh my Robert De Niro said F Trump?? OMFG how will you go on living??

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-01-16 09:31 AM | Reply

Laura,

"OMFG how will you go on living??"

I'm not all that but I know you don't get on tv and say the f word where children will be watching.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 11:43 AM | Reply

Laura,

It only shows that being rich doesn't automatically mean you have any class.

I know poor people with more class than Deniro demonstrated.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 11:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

how much liberal Hollywood despises half of this country.

#21 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Half of America is sick, BILL. Your half.

That doesn't justify despising you. But it does mean you need help.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-16 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I know poor people with more class than Deniro demonstrated.

#24 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-01-16 11:49 AM | REPLY

You vote for trash.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-01-16 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If you supported Trump in 2016, you may have been confused but likely sick. If you supported Trump in 2020 you were definitely sick. If you support Trump now you are sick and dangerous.

Looking at you, BILL.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-16 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laura,

I've always figured being an actor is a job where it can be hard to maintain real self-esteem.

They pretend they are accomplished doctors, spys, husbands, policemen, counselors, educated intellectuals but really they are just repeating words off a page usually written by someone else. Some play crazy people which has its own set of problems.

So they continue the facade and "act" as if they have self-esteem.

And they can get quite rich if they're good at it. Some are actually intelligent and educated. Acting is a skill and a natural talent for some but still, they're acting. They aren't the characters they pretend to be.

There must be a certain sort of inner turmoil when they meet strangers who want to attribute some of the characteristics (good or bad) of the people they play onto the real person.

"no...I'm just an actor who tells himself he's saving the world to compensate for the fact I'm a fake."

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 12:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Zed,

"If you support Trump now you are sick and dangerous."

Tell me who the Democrats are going to prop up in 2024 and we'll go from there.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 12:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Hillary. We're toast.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-01-16 12:20 PM | Reply

Bill, you are a pf-ing crybaby who votes for Nazis. Go pound it, loser.

#31 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-01-16 12:29 PM | Reply

Tell me who the Democrats are going to prop up in 2024 and we'll go from there.

#29 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

If you vote for Hitler then you support Hitler, BILL. no matter how much you loathe any Democrat.

You're a man who obviously likes Hitler. All your problems here and in life stem from that.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2022-01-16 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bill Johnson you are a nincompoop. Kids hear worse at home.

Just so we are clear I don't want to be mistaken for a poor person with your version of class. So F Trump and -- too.

Movie stars are great people. They entertained us to remind us that there are smarter people out there than you Bill Johnson.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-01-16 01:12 PM | Reply

Zed,

Your posts make me grateful I gave up pot.

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 01:59 PM | Reply

Laura,

I'm impressed.

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 02:00 PM | Reply

Zed actually doesn't do any drugs. And refuses to eat nutmeg.

You're a fool billjohnson.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-01-16 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lack of originality is killing Hollywood. It's nothing but remakes and schitty Marvel movies.

Sorry but superhero movies suck. Top Gun 3 is uninteresting. The third Matrix was so bad god knows why they thought there needed to be a fourth.

It's just an industry coasting on fumes producing content for a populace with ever decreasing standards and attention spans.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2022-01-16 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

People want to be entertained. It is as close to a universal truth as anything else human. Hollywood is not in any danger.

#38 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-01-16 05:19 PM | Reply

People want to be entertained.

The ridiculous amount of money paid to top tier actors and sports stars is testament to that.

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-01-16 05:24 PM | Reply

Jpw,

I agree. After so many decades of movie making, good original ideas are getting few and far between.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 05:24 PM | Reply

Although I have to be in the right mood but myself, I have a growing interest in some Asian titles on netflix. The plot lines are original but I wish they would dub to English more.

But the human interactions are honest and without "attitude".

#41 | Posted by fresno500 at 2022-01-16 05:45 PM | Reply

"The ridiculous amount of money paid to top tier actors and sports stars is testament to that."

I think they do that to normalize wealth inequality. Paying somebody millions, while you're making billions.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-01-16 06:17 PM | Reply

Fres,

I get dvds from Netflix.

They have a good mixture of foreign films in the original language subtitled in English.

One movie Frantz in German worth watching very original plot.

Set in the Great War a Frenchman dealing with guilt went to visit the grave of a German man he killed during the war and ended up meeting the grieving family.

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-01-16 07:46 PM | Reply

#24 Everyone that ever lived has more class than Trump.

#44 | Posted by bored at 2022-01-16 10:47 PM | Reply

#9 The only problem I have with what you're saying here is that my son, white male, trying to get into an Ivy League school to double major in Math and Musical Theater... with a perfect SAT score in math is being turned away. The 'unofficial' feedback he's getting from the musical theater people is that it's because he's a white male, they don't want white males at all. There's losing the white privilege edge, and then there is outright punishing white male boys and the pendulum has swung that far.

#45 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2022-01-17 10:16 AM | Reply

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