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Sunday, April 24, 2022

Jonathan Weisman: There was a time in the nation's capital when lines mattered, and when they were crossed, the consequences were swift and severe.

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Dissembling is not a crime, but doing so to conceal a wholesale reversal on a matter as serious as an attack on the citadel of democracy and the possible resignation of a president would once have been considered career-ending for a politician, particularly one who aspires to the highest position in the House.

Not so for a Republican in the age of Trump, when Mr. McCarthy's brand of lie was nothing particularly new; maybe it was just a Thursday. On Friday, another House member, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, said under oath at an administrative law hearing in Atlanta that she could "not recall" having advocated Mr. Trump imposing martial law to stop the transfer of power to Joseph R. Biden Jr., a position that would seem difficult to forget.

It was Mr. Trump himself who showed just how few consequences there could be for transgressions that once seemed beyond the pale for the nation's leaders in 2016, when he survived the release of leaked audio in which he boasted of sexually assaulting women " then went on to win the presidency. In the years afterward, he survived two impeachment trials, on charges of pressuring Ukraine for his own political gain and of inciting the Capitol riot, and he continues to spread the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

Trump's GOP: The party of lies, lies, and more lies about the reality that they're liars.

A democracy cannot survive when its citizens are fed nothing but lies about the intentions of their fellow citizens and then believe them as truths. Such a state creates hatred, the rocket fuel that propels fascism and destroys comity and the sense of a shared destiny. It rots democracy away from the inside making the house unlivable.

And such is the destination where we're heading, if indeed we already haven't arrived.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-04-23 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A democracy cannot survive when its citizens are fed nothing but lies about the intentions of their fellow citizens and then believe them as truths. Such a state creates hatred, the rocket fuel that propels fascism and destroys comity and the sense of a shared destiny. It rots democracy away from the inside making the house unlivable.

And such is the destination where we're heading, if indeed we already haven't arrived.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma'

I knew we were heading for a civil war when I watched fox news' coverage of the 2000 election. There's no way to keep a country together when half of them are fed lies 24/7.

An immigrant destroyed america. Rupert murdoch.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-04-24 04:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"An immigrant destroyed america. Rupert murdoch.

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-04-24 04:58 PM | REPLY | FLAG"

And not just America. Murdoch's rabid support for Brexit, through his right wing media outlets in the UK, did much to influence the vote. What was in the best interest of the UK was never on his radar; these words from an Anthony Hilton column in the UK Evening Standard sums him up:

"I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That's easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice."

To bring this post back on topic, anyone following Boris Johnson's latest series of law breeches and fines, lies to Parliament and the British public and refusal to follow centuries of precedent in " doing the right thing " will recognize that crossing lines without consequence is also not just an American issue.

In the end, the responsibility lies with voters who do not hold their representatives accountable; I am constantly amazed by how many of them there are.

#3 | Posted by Foreigner at 2022-04-24 06:43 PM | Reply

"A democracy cannot survive when its citizens are fed nothing but lies about the intentions of their fellow citizens and then believe them as truths. Such a state creates hatred, the rocket fuel that propels fascism and destroys comity and the sense of a shared destiny. It rots democracy away from the inside making the house unlivable."

Yep.

The right wing talk/hate radio/tv machine has been operating, unabated, for over 30yrs now.

It's been very effective.

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-04-24 07:46 PM | Reply

{"A democracy cannot survive when its citizens are fed nothing but lies about the intentions of their fellow citizens and then believe them as truths. Such a state creates hatred, the rocket fuel that propels fascism and destroys comity and the sense of a shared destiny. It rots democracy away from the inside making the house unlivable."
Yep.
The right wing talk/hate radio/tv machine has been operating, unabated, for over 30yrs now.
It's been very effective.}

You are correct, but why has the left wing message failed so badly over that same 30 year period? How would you counter 30 years of Rush Limbaugh right wing propaganda?

#5 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2022-04-24 08:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You are correct, but why has the left wing message failed so badly over that same 30 year period? How would you counter 30 years of Rush Limbaugh right wing propaganda?

#5 | Posted by jamesgelliott

That's kind of like saying "how can we make people like broccoli as much as they like ice cream?"

You can't. Liberalism is your vegetables. It's good for a country.

Fascism is sugar and fat and feels good to consume. It offers simply solutions and simplifies problems. It feels good to blame your problems on immigrants and minorities. Your ------ life isn't YOUR fault for making stupid choices, it's THEIRS. It feels good to say "the news is all lies" instead of doing the work of separating lies from truth.

Fascism has an advantage because it appeals to the worst parts of our tribal biological programming. Just like ice cream has an advantage because it appeals to our biological obsession with finding sugar and fat to consume.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-04-24 08:20 PM | Reply

"That's kind of like saying "how can we make people like broccoli as much as they like ice cream?"
You can't. Liberalism is your vegetables. It's good for a country."

I get that. But using your own comparison...How do you make people start liking Broccoli??? You literally said "You can't. Liberalism is your vegetables. It's good for a country."


#7 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2022-04-24 08:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I get that. But using your own comparison...How do you make people start liking Broccoli??? You literally said "You can't. Liberalism is your vegetables. It's good for a country."

#7 | Posted by jamesgelliott

It takes a lot of education. Something america is doing less and less of. Why do you think repubs want everyone just to go to trade school and learn how to work with their hands? Because they dont want voters whove learned the history of fascism and how to recognize the early stages of a fascist uprising. They know the dumber america is, the more votes they get.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-04-24 09:01 PM | Reply

To cross a line, there needs to be a line.

Todays Republicans are sociopaths and have zero lines to speak of.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2022-04-24 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't worry!

Democrats are here to hold them accountable!

Any second now...

Yep... any second now...

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-04-25 10:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

you mean the deplorables policing the
deplorables doesn't seem to work somehow?!

Shocker!

#11 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-04-25 03:09 PM | Reply

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