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Tuesday, May 03, 2022

In a statement issued on Tuesday, Collins said the leaked opinion seemingly contradicts assurances given to her by Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch about their stances on maintaining precedent for abortion rights.

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---- that stupid bitch.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-03 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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A rapist overturning Roe v Wade is a Republican wet dream.

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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-05-03 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

She could resign in disgrace.

It would send a message.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-03 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Collins said the leaked opinion seemingly contradicts assurances given to her by Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch"

Many people told her as much. She ignored the obvious truth. FSC.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-03 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" In 2018, Collins delivered a crucial vote in favor of Kavanaugh in which she defiantly insisted that she believed he would keep his word on keeping Roe v. Wade the law of the land if he were to be confirmed to the Supreme Court."

Thanks, Susan! You built that!

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-03 03:31 PM | Reply

Haha. She doesn't give two poots.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2022-05-03 04:08 PM | Reply

Susan! Senator Collins! Just one question:

"Will you be forwarding legislation to impeach Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, or are you leaving it at "upset"?

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-03 04:17 PM | Reply

Republicans running for the f'n' Exit doors!

Do tell.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-03 04:25 PM | Reply

Is lying to Congress during their confirmation hearings sufficient grounds for impeachment? It should be.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-05-03 04:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

C'est tragique.

#10 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-03 09:45 PM | Reply

You mean she has finally realized that the current crop of Republicans will lie and misrepresent their opinions in order to attain significant offices?

I have to ask one simple question...

What took her so long to get up to speed here?

I mean, really.


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#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-03 09:52 PM | Reply

...

and speaking of being mislead...

an amazing tune. about being mislead...

Katie Webster - Red Negligee
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Ms Webster is, imho, most awesome.

Check out her rendition of C.Q. Boogie...

Jus' sayin'...

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-03 10:01 PM | Reply

I'd like to play some Texas Holdem poker with Mrs Collins.
It would be super easy to bluff her out of all of her chips.

#13 | Posted by a_monson at 2022-05-03 10:04 PM | Reply

Too much time lost in the Maine woods without a flashlight perhaps?

#14 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2022-05-04 12:59 AM | Reply

Ms Webster is, imho, most awesome.

Check out her rendition of C.Q. Boogie...

Jus' sayin'...

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-03 10:01 PM

Was. Ms Webster passed in '99, unfortunately. Got to see her a couple of times. Big fun.

#15 | Posted by morris at 2022-05-04 01:46 AM | Reply

Susan Collins is full of -----!
She knows exactly what she did,
and would do it again...

Another sellout rethuglican...

#16 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-05-04 06:47 AM | Reply

"Misled"?

Imagine how the rest of us (who were not fooled for a second) feel.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-04 09:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On the other thread regarding Schumer promising a floor fight for choice, somebody suggested Collins and Murkowski might be willing to vote with Dems on a filibuster carve-out for abortion rights. I wonder if Collins can be removed from office by POed Maine women who would rather see a Dem in her seat. That might move old Susan in the right direction.

#18 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2022-05-04 11:55 AM | Reply

Is lying to Congress during their confirmation hearings sufficient grounds for impeachment?

It's literally a federal crime that Garland should (but won't) prosecute.

As to impeachment, the grounds are "high crimes and misdemeanors." In my eyes, felony perjury that relates directly to the job to which the perjuror was confirmed is absolutely impeachable. But, again, this requires a Democratic Party with balls and genuine beliefs, neither of which they are proven to have.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 12:13 PM | Reply

As to Collins, she can ---- off forever. Nobody with even half a brain believed any of these appointees when they said Roe was settled law, and we all know that Collins, Murkowski, etc will not support any punitive/corrective measures such as impeachment or court expansion. Their fake surprise is insulting.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nobody with even half a brain believed any of these appointees when they said Roe was settled"

Everyone knew they were lying. They were selected for their seats because they are liars. Now, their lying has paid off.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-04 12:22 PM | Reply

Collins is either a fool, a rube, or a liar. Either she lied about her conversation, or she got rolled in the most obvious manner. Either way, she should get recalled in a special election ASAP.

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2022-05-04 12:27 PM | Reply

Joe,

Much to your chagrin the court does not exist to deliver political victories to the left that they can't achieve legislatively. Ironically, the left can probably achieve passing a federal abortion law if it is prudently drafted.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 12:31 PM | Reply

If abortion is enshrined in the Constitution then why isn't physician assisted suicide?

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 12:33 PM | Reply

Much to your chagrin the court does not exist to deliver political victories to the left that they can't achieve legislatively. Ironically, the left can probably achieve passing a federal abortion law if it is prudently drafted.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-05-04 12:31 PM | REPLY

Rights to reproductive privacy are not there to be voted on. Either you have fundamental rights as a human being or you don't. To say women have to get enough votes to have rights is very misogynistic.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-04 12:35 PM | Reply

If abortion is enshrined in the Constitution then why isn't something unrelated to abortion?
#24 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 12:37 PM | Reply

If abortion is enshrined in the Constitution then why isn't physician assisted suicide?

#24 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-05-04 12:33 PM | REPLY

Apples to oranges. Strawman alert.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-04 12:39 PM | Reply

Abortion and physician assisted suicide are both elective medical procedures. Under the legal reasoning of the Roe opinion both should enjoy the same protection under doctor-patient confidentiality and privacy.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 12:50 PM | Reply

"Abortion and physician assisted suicide are both elective medical procedures."

All medical procedures are elective medical procedures.

Murder of Elijah McClane notwithstanding.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 12:53 PM | Reply

Abortion and physician assisted suicide are both elective medical procedures. Under the legal reasoning of the Roe opinion both should enjoy the same protection under doctor-patient confidentiality and privacy.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-05-04 12:50 PM | REPLY

Wrong but do try again.

#30 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-04 12:54 PM | Reply

If abortion is enshrined in the Constitution then why isn't physician assisted suicide?

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

Because the party you vote for would never allow that due to their obsession with ancient mythology.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-04 01:06 PM | Reply

Did JeffJ ever find a Right To Privacy in the Constitution?

Asking for Justice Alito's draft memo.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 01:08 PM | Reply

Much to your chagrin the court does not exist to deliver political victories to the left that they can't achieve legislatively.

How is that a response to my point that lying to Congress is a felony, or that Collins was stupid for "believing" Republican nominees when they said Roe was settled law?

Ironically, the left can probably achieve passing a federal abortion law if it is prudently drafted.

Even if they could (debatable since there's already a proposal that doesn't have 50 votes), our Christian Nationalist Supreme Court will find a way to strike it down.

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 01:53 PM | Reply

" Even if they could (debatable since there's already a proposal that doesn't have 50 votes), our Christian Nationalist Supreme Court will find a way to strike it down.

#33 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-05-04 01:53 PM | FLAG: "

Now you are just being silly. Come on, man! You are better than this.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 01:58 PM | Reply

Now you are just being silly. Come on, man! You are better than this.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger

The ones who look silly are the ones who still give the right the benefit of the doubt. Every single thing their defenders have said "theyd never do that"...they've gone ahead and done it.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-04 02:00 PM | Reply

I am not being silly. Roe is settled law, and they are turning stare decisis on its head and implementing an unworkable rule to further a political/religious agenda. If Congress passed a legislative end-around the repeal of Roe, the right's next task would be to strike that down or get justices who will. You're an idiot if you don't see that.

#36 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 02:00 PM | Reply

Roe is not "settled law" nor is it the first time that a prior ruling was undone.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 02:02 PM | Reply

Roe is not "settled law"

^
Then nothing is settled law.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 02:05 PM | Reply

"If Congress passed a legislative end-around the repeal of Roe, the right's next task would be to strike that down or get justices who will. You're an idiot if you don't see that.

#36 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-05-04 02:00 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Yes there would be pushback but it wouldn't happen in the courts and if it did it wouldn't go anywhere. There is ZERO constitutional prohibitions against legislating the legality of abortion.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 02:05 PM | Reply

Then there's no such thing as settled law. It's all about who can stack the courts more to change the values of the nation. And one side gets a massive power advantage where 400k wyoming morons have as much sway as 50 million californians.

The court is illegitimate.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-04 02:06 PM | Reply

Hilariously, Alito/Thomas have historically been massive critics of juge-imposed rules that cannot be consistently implemented by lower courts. And yet, per this draft opinion, Alito is ready to say that we don't actually have any rights unless they are "deeply rooted in this nation's history," a fake rule plucked from dicta in Washington v. Glucksberg that will literally give any activist judge a reason to eliminate any of our rights. How far back does a practice or custom need to go to be "deeply rooted?" 1925? 1800? How many people need to engage in it for the "roots" to be established? 1,000? 1,000,000? This ruling is --------- and everyone knows it.

#41 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 02:07 PM | Reply

Yes there would be pushback but it wouldn't happen in the courts and if it did it wouldn't go anywhere. There is ZERO constitutional prohibitions against legislating the legality of abortion.

You are absolutely ------ in the head if you think rightwing judges won't manufacture a reason to strike down a federal law legalizing abortion. I could create one right now but it isn't even worth my time. But you've already proven your incompetence several times so we needn't belabor the point.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 02:11 PM | Reply

Of course you are asking me to disprove a hypothetical- something that hasn't happened. And per usual you amp up your condescension to the max because you fancy yourself as some kind of Nostradamus. Grow up, Joe.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 02:17 PM | Reply

#41 Roe was a --------- ruling and everyone knows it.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-04 02:18 PM | Reply

Of course you are asking me to disprove a hypothetical- something that hasn't happened.
#43 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Like public school teachers grooming children in their classrooms?

#45 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-05-04 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of course you are asking me to disprove a hypothetical- something that hasn't happened. And per usual you amp up your condescension to the max because you fancy yourself as some kind of Nostradamus. Grow up, Joe.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger

No we're just asking you to admit what everyone else can see - that there's nothing the right wing wont do. No "norm" that they give a ---- about. No shocking thing they wont attempt if it means they win.

They attempted a fascist coup on live tv and you're still licking their balls and giving them the benefit of the doubt on everything.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-04 02:19 PM | Reply

"Of course you are asking me to disprove a hypothetical"

So you can't disprove there's a hypothetical right to abortion in the Constitution...

Hello?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 02:20 PM | Reply

Of course you are asking me to disprove a hypothetical- something that hasn't happened.

I'm not asking you to do anything. Your posts on legal topics are so baseless that it's nauseating. If you dont like "condescension" then get smarter.

Many people said the right wouldn't strike down Roe either, and yet here we are. And if you've seen some of the garbage opinions coming from Trump judges in, say, the Western District of Texas (and the fact that at least 2-3 justices on SCOTUS regularly appear ready to agree with them), you'd know it is perfectly reasonable to predict that a nationwide abortion legalization statute would immediately be attacked by activist judges.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-04 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 Roe was a --------- ruling and everyone knows it.
#44 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

7 out of 9 justices seemed to think it was the right call.

What do you know that they didn't?

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 02:29 PM | Reply

Much to your chagrin the court does not exist to deliver political victories to the left that they can't achieve legislatively. Ironically, the left can probably achieve passing a federal abortion law if it is prudently drafted.

#23 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Roe was decided 7-2.

With the majority written by a Nixon appointee.

Your canned answers suck.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-04 02:58 PM | Reply

Five of the seven jurists in the Roe majority were appointed by Republican Presidents.

#51 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-05-04 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How is that a response to my point that lying to Congress is a felony, or that Collins was stupid for "believing" Republican nominees when they said Roe was settled law?

It wasn't.

But Jeff's political views are like a choose your own adventure book.

Sure, there's more variety than a standard novel but in the end you're still limited to force fed options.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-04 03:12 PM | Reply

I'd like to ask each of the five justices one question:

Could you please take me through your process of changing opinions from what you said during confirmation hearings, to "egregiously wrong"?

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-04 03:17 PM | Reply

Could you please take me through your process of changing opinions from what you said during confirmation hearings, to "egregiously wrong"?

Answer: The opinions I gave during the confirmation hearings were the ones I knew I had to give to get the job. Now that I have the job and can't be fired for expressing my true opinions--or for having lied about those opinions during the job interview--I am free to say what I have always believed: "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start." Don't like it? Or the fact that I lied to get the job? I don't care.

#54 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-05-04 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#54
"The opinions I gave during the confirmation hearings were the ones I knew I had to give to get the job. Now that I have the job and can't be fired for expressing my true opinions--or for having lied about those opinions during the job interview--I am free to say what I have always believed: "Roe was egregiously wrong from the start." Don't like it? Or the fact that I lied to get the job? I don't care."

Where's the "Woefully True" flag?

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-04 04:09 PM | Reply

It's too bad we don't have a drug test for lying. Here ya go, pee in this cup, and we'll let you know if you have the job.

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-05-04 04:24 PM | Reply

Could you please take me through your process of changing opinions from what you said during confirmation hearings, to "egregiously wrong"?
#53 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

What hearing? I don't remember any hearing. There's no hearing on my calendar.
--Blackout Bart

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-04 04:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Ahh Bellringer, just chomping at the bit to rape and impregnate a child so he can finally claim he had sex. Pedophiles just love this as it gives them more children to abuse and it will be ok with the GQP Federal Law they are writing on abortion and women's NO rights.

#58 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-05-05 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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