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Friday, May 13, 2022

The fallout from the discovery of a potential GOP "ballot harvesting" operation in South Philadelphia continued Tuesday, as two state party staffers lost their jobs, the matter became fodder for attacks in the Republican primary for governor, and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle jockeyed to define just what the situation said -- or didn't -- about the security of voting by mail.

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Of course. The GOP is setting out to prove their concerns about voter fraud are valid by committing voter fraud themseles.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-12 04:02 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...

...But the sources who described the terminations " and spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter " said the party's decision to cut ties with the two men stemmed from an Inquirer story last week that raised questions about the PAC's work registering people in South Philadelphia to vote by mail.

The news organization found that dozens of Republican mail ballots for the May 17 primary were being diverted to a P.O. Box registered to the Republican Registration Coalition. The committee's chairman " Billy Lanzilotti, a onetime Republican ward leader in Philadelphia and former campaign staffer for U.S. Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R., Bucks " said he'd helped the voters fill out their ballot applications, inserting his P.O. box on the form where voters would typically write their home addresses.

Though Lanzilotti maintained he was doing this as a "service to the voters" and intended to hand deliver the ballots once they arrived, many of the affected voters said they did not remember applying to vote by mail and had no idea why their ballots were going to Lanzilotti instead of directly to them. One said Lanzilotti had delivered his ballot back to the city once it had been filled out " which would violate state law.

Of the top 10 mailing addresses for Philadelphia ballots, Lanzilotti's P.O. box was the only one that was not an elections office or a nursing home....

[emphasis mine]


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-12 05:06 PM | Reply

BillJohnson this is your time to shine!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-12 05:11 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"BillJohnson this is your time to shine!"

Time is revealing the truth about mail-in ballots.

They will be more tightly controlled next election.

If it takes people in the GOP coming out in the news...so be it.

The media will carry the story then and that suits me just fine.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-12 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"people in the GOP coming out in the news"

Come on, man.

They are in the news because they committed election fraud.

You're arguing criminals prove the law is a bad idea.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-12 09:38 PM | Reply

Mail-in ballots are safe secure and trustworthy. The Republican party loathes them because the more people that vote the less likely that Republicans win. That's the truth of the matter.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-12 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

"They are in the news because they committed election fraud."

In this case it is revealing the drawbacks and opportunities to take advantage of mail-in ballots being a weak link.

I was going on and on talking about ballot harvesting being a very real problem and this article confirms it.

Are people so foolish to think this was an isolated incident or only Republicans did it?

My point from the start was not to point out fraud but to point out weaknesses in mail-in ballot processes.

Future elections are at risk if we stay this course.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 09:03 AM | Reply

"The Republican party loathes them because the more people that vote the less likely that Republicans win. That's the truth of the matter."

Well the RNC has to do ~something to neutralize the flood of illegals the dRats are allowing in illegally to vote D. That's the truth of the matter.

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2022-05-13 09:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Why look who's been watching Feckless Carlson 24/7? You're a clown.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-13 09:29 AM | Reply

And, for all Trump's best efforts, Biden still won Pennsylvania in the general.

And vengeance shall be mine! . . . so sayth Trump, the would-be dictator who couldn't shoot straight.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-13 09:39 AM | Reply

Phest,

I think the Fentanyl problem and drugs coming over the border are going to make this an graver problem than just the immigrants.

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 09:45 AM | Reply

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson

They were caught as with so many other Republicans scamming the vote. This isn't the first large scale GOP mail ballot scam to be stopped. i.e. Proof the system of checks is working.

The voting in 2 states folks are the most common one voters (virtually all GOP) are busted for. The thing is there are so few cases period to be a non-issue.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-05-13 10:08 AM | Reply

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

You care to share a few cases of this happening? Or how about a single case for that matter?

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-05-13 10:09 AM | Reply

@#4 ... Time is revealing the truth about mail-in ballots. ...

Time is revealing the truth about Republicans.

Mail-in voting can work, and does work (look at Utah, 100% of voting is via mail-in ballots).

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-13 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think the Fentanyl problem and drugs coming over the border are going to make this an graver problem than just the immigrants.

#11 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Wow. You really don't research anything for your political opinions.

The primary source of illegal Fentanyl and similar drugs in the US is...CHINA. It's coming via international mail and shipping.

Mexico isn't the primary source according the DEA and others.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-05-13 11:22 AM | Reply

Sy,

Excuse me.

I didn't realize drugs on the southern border wasn't a problem

My bad.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 11:49 AM | Reply

Well the RNC has to do ~something to neutralize the flood of illegals the dRats are allowing in illegally to vote D. That's the truth of the matter.

#8 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

How exactly does someone who's not on the voter rolls cast a vote?

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-13 11:54 AM | Reply

"They will be more tightly controlled next election."

Maybe in your red state.

I got the same kind of mail in ballot I got last time.

Safe and easy.

It must suck to live in a red state. I think it's a requirement now.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-13 11:58 AM | Reply

"something to neutralize the flood of illegals the dRats are allowing in illegally to vote D. That's the truth of the matter."

Then you certainly have a bunch of cases to link for proof.

What?!? Not a single one??? NO PROOF AT ALL?!?

Your "truth" is a lie, isn't it?

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Danforth,

This is a serious question. Prior to Trump, why have both Dems and Republicans given a nod and a wink to illegal immigration? W was just as bad as Obama on this.

Why?

No BS. Just looking for your honest thoughts. This ain't a gotcha question.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:13 PM | Reply

"Prior to Trump, why have both Dems and Republicans given a nod and a wink to illegal immigration?"

Chambers of commerce. Take Kansas for example: it's widely known the illegals work in meat packing plants in the southwest and southeast parts of the State. But no raids. Why? Local sheriffs, and local chambers of commerce. In those areas, Republicans.

Also: look what happened to Georgia a few years ago when they got rid of illegals right before harvest season. Ripe fruits and vegetables rotted in the fields. They didn't repeat the policy. Were they pro immigration, or pro reality?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like shooting pigs in a barrel

#22 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-05-13 12:24 PM | Reply

Bell,

"why have both Dems and Republicans given a nod and a wink to illegal immigration?"

willing to work cheap

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 12:26 PM | Reply

#21. So, cheap labor.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:27 PM | Reply

Thank you for answering my question, Danforth.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:27 PM | Reply

#21. So, cheap labor.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

So the accusation that its just DEMS who want to allow illegal immigration and repubs want to stop it is... how you say.... A LIE?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-13 12:31 PM | Reply

"So, cheap labor."

Why are you overlooking "corrupt locals"?

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 12:35 PM | Reply

#26. Go read my lost again. I acknowledged that W was awful on this issue.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:36 PM | Reply

My post again.

I loathe my phone.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:36 PM | Reply

#27. Not overlooking anything. Just wanted your take and I appreciate the answer.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:38 PM | Reply

#26. Go read my lost again. I acknowledged that W was awful on this issue.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

As if there aren't any other repubs besides W who want that cheap illegal labor.

Republicans are dishonest on this issue when they pretend to be the anti illegal immigration party. Just like they're dishonest on every other issue. But they sure know how to make morons believe in slogans. BUILD THE WALL is all it takes to make morons think repubs dont want cheap illegal labor.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-13 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Not overlooking anything."

Then explain why the local Republican sheriffs aren't frog-marching members of the local chambers of commerce.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 12:44 PM | Reply

Bell,

Not just cheap labor

Good work ethic for the most part and don't make waves.

#33 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 12:45 PM | Reply

#32. Because they are benefiting. Since you've chosen to make this political why are Democrats so supportive of illegal immigration?

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 12:52 PM | Reply

"why are Democrats so supportive of illegal immigration?"

Reality. The same thing Georgia realized.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 12:58 PM | Reply

Fair enough.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-13 01:02 PM | Reply

Georgia:
www.forbes.com

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 01:18 PM | Reply

Yep! The GOP's not Cheating at all!
AT ALL I TELL YOU!!!

(meanwhile...scurry, scurry, scurry...
grab, grab, grab...quick! shred, shred, shred...)

#38 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-05-13 02:04 PM | Reply

Bell,

The question was why are both dems and rep turning a blind eye.

I gave my answer that has nothing to do politics.

#39 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 02:28 PM | Reply

Bell,

"why are Democrats so supportive of illegal immigration?"

My honest answer.

Because it's opposite what conservatives are wanting.

Democrats have become the anti-party.

There's no consistency in liberal ideology anymore.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 02:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"My honest answer. Because it's opposite what conservatives are wanting."

Feel free to explain why the Republican Sheriffs don't frog-march Republican members of the Chamber of Commerce.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 02:38 PM | Reply

"I gave my answer that has nothing to do politics."

And your next post had EVERYTHING to do with politics.

See if one side of your face can agree with the other, and get back to us.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 02:42 PM | Reply

Because it's opposite what conservatives are wanting.

Democrats have become the anti-party.

There's no consistency in liberal ideology anymore.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson

This from the party that refused to even save their own families lives with vaccines because liberals were telling them to.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-13 02:49 PM | Reply

#40 BillJohnson: Sincere question for you. Just how ------- dishonest and stupid are you?

#44 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-05-13 02:50 PM | Reply

"I didn't realize drugs on the southern border wasn't a problem"

No one made that claim. You were merely corrected regarding the source of the Fentanyl.

Maybe you could use this as impetus to educate yourself.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 02:51 PM | Reply

Our country would starve if it weren't for illegal immigrants. That's a fact not conjecture.

#46 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 03:01 PM | Reply

Dan,

Maybe you should find more information from a variety of sources not defending open borders.

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 03:08 PM | Reply

"Maybe you should find more information from a variety of sources not defending open borders."

You got caught lying about illegal immigrants bringing in Fentanyl. My sources aren't the problem.

Where did you get the lie? That'd be the first place to go.

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 03:13 PM | Reply

Even CNN reported 1000% increase in Fentanyl in one year at the border.

You're splitting hairs.

My point was that the immigrants themselves are not the only problem at the border.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 03:35 PM | Reply

Xenophobia is what is wrong with the border. Not the illegals themselves. Hell Reagan was for open borders dummkopf.

#50 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 03:40 PM | Reply

defending open borders.

#47 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Maybe you need to define "open borders". America is not an open border country. Maybe you are confused and thinking of the EU?

Also ... Who is defending these so called "open borders" that we don't actually have? My feeling is that any defense of "open borders" is just a knee jerk reaction to trumpism and extremist calling for building a wall that Mexico will pay for.

It's not just about YOUR rights. It's about human rights. Immigrants are humans too.

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-13 03:47 PM | Reply

Donner,

How about lawless borders?

This can't go on indefinitely and there is no chance it will slow down unless America takes action.

Democrats just want to open the valve bigger.

That's stupid more than being a political issue.

#52 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 04:00 PM | Reply

How about lawless borders?
This can't go on indefinitely and there is no chance it will slow down unless America takes action.
Democrats just want to open the valve bigger.
That's stupid more than being a political issue.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-05-13 04:00 PM | REPLY

We're a capitalist country. Either deal with that or not. Your choice.

#53 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 04:04 PM | Reply

"How about lawless borders?"

Lawless?!?

How about another lie?

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-13 04:05 PM | Reply

Dan,

Not everyone who is coming here should be permitted in.

Tough but true.

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 04:11 PM | Reply

Posted by BillJohnson

Weapons grade stupid right there, by god.

#56 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-13 04:13 PM | Reply

Donner,
How about lawless borders?
This can't go on indefinitely and there is no chance it will slow down unless America takes action.
Democrats just want to open the valve bigger.
That's stupid more than being a political issue.

#52 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

The natural and appropriate to solution to a decrease in domestic population growth is a healthy, robust and liberal immigration policy.

Not a draconian anti-Freedom to Choose forced birth policy to replenish the supply of domestic babies.

Essentially the forced birth policy is racist

#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-13 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Not everyone who is coming here should be permitted in.
Tough but true.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-05-13 04:11 PM |

How Christian of you.

#58 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 04:22 PM | Reply

"How Christian of you."

You can rest assured that "billjohnson" is no Christian.

He may claim to be one, but, clearly, he has absolutely no concept of what being a Christian entails.

#59 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-13 04:27 PM | Reply

Laura,

Even Christians believe only some go to heaven when you die.

Repent or burn in hell for eternity.

Abide by the rules to come in or stay in Mexico.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 04:30 PM | Reply

Laura,
Even Christians believe only some go to heaven when you die.
Repent or burn in hell for eternity.
Abide by the rules to come in or stay in Mexico.
#60 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I find it hilarious when religious people claim to be christians when condemning poor people. The stupidity is simply delicious.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-13 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laura,

Funny how religion doesn't come into play with liberals regarding abortion but it does talking about the border.

You're a hoot.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 04:36 PM | Reply

Even Christians believe only some go to heaven when you die.
Repent or burn in hell for eternity.
Abide by the rules to come in or stay in Mexico.
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-05-13 04:30 PM | REPLY

Treating Foreigners

Leviticus 19:34 ESV / 445 helpful votes
You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 19:33-34 ESV / 444 helpful votes
"When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Be careful with who you believe will get to heaven. It could backfire on you.

#63 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 04:39 PM | Reply

"Funny how religion doesn't come into play with liberals regarding abortion"

Funny, The Bible doesn't forbid abortion like you woman haters do.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-13 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Laura,

I more govern my life by "how you judge others is how you'll be judged." Paraphrased.

You like to judge.

Be ready to be judged when you tell others they are not Christians.

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-13 04:45 PM | Reply

Abide by the rules to come in or stay in Mexico.
#60 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Why not change the rules? Bring back the bracero program. Put in place the two-card program for seasonal workers discussed 20 years ago. Most Mexicans and Central Americans coming to the U.S. don't want to immigrate, they want to come work for the season then go home and live well the rest of the year. They started staying back in the late 90s because it was getting so much harder to enter every successive year. Open up legal immigration quotas for those who do want to immigrate. My business and every other in my area is screaming for employees. There's more than one solution to the problem.

#66 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-05-13 04:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" There's more than one solution to the problem."

But there is no solution to billjohnson's stupidity.

Trying to engage that moron is an exercise in futility.

#67 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-13 04:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You like to judge.
Be ready to be judged when you tell others they are not Christians.
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-05-13 04:45 PM | REPLY

I never said I didn't. You on the other hand do and then you lie about it too.

#68 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-13 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Be ready to be judged when you tell others they are not Christians."
#65 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

#69 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-13 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How about lawless borders?

What "lawless borders" are you referring to? We have laws regarding our borders. Old antiquated laws that desperately need upgrading. Which Congress can't seem to even agree to debate. Apparently.

This can't go on indefinitely and there is no chance it will slow down unless America takes action."

Why not? The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

We can and it will continue like this until Congress finally reforms our immigration laws to coincide with the reality on the ground. Or until some event finally brings us together again as a nation. Building a stupid wall to coddle Trumpy's big hateful ego would do nothing to resolve the situation on the ground and probably has just aggravated the situation even more.


"Democrats just want to open the valve bigger."

That's just dumb of course. Democrats want to do the humanitarian thing to help their fellow humans u any way they can. America has opened and closed he "valve" numerous times when it's convenient to whatever political power happens to have the power to do so.

"That's stupid more than being a political issue."

No that's stupid because it is stupid. America is about half full of stupid at the moment.

Seems like we are about evenly divided between stupid and dumb these days I am afraid.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-13 09:38 PM | Reply

Be ready to be judged when you tell others they are not Christians.

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson

It's not a judgement it's simply a fact. If you're voting for the party that is cruel to the sick, the poor, and immigrants, you are straight up IGNORING almost all of jesus' teachings.

#71 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-13 09:44 PM | Reply

Jesus Christ, the right wing apologists on this thread. It's their people caught in ballot harvesting, but they want to change the subject. Do you clowns listen to yourselves?

#72 | Posted by cbob at 2022-05-14 10:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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