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Wednesday, May 18, 2022

A racially motivated mass shooting in Buffalo is putting new pressure on Democrats to consider gun-control legislation -- but once again centrist Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is emerging as a problem.

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Of course he is. That's what he does.

#1 | Posted by Sezu at 2022-05-18 02:02 PM | Reply

And thank God for him.

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2022-05-18 02:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

---- off, loser. You care so much about the "black race" whatever the ---- that is, but don't care that racists idiots kill those same black folk with guns they never should have been able to get in the first place.
Shut the ---- up.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-18 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

With something like 400 million guns and at least 20 million assault weapons already in circulation in the U.S., I fail to see were gun control would make much difference. The cat has already been out of the bag for far too long. So all this really amounts to is Democrats attempting to pander to a certain demographic that thinks it would change anything.

It will take generations, but instead of attempting to pass further gun regulations, the U.S. needs to work on changing its culture of violence.

#4 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-05-18 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not yet, LEGALLY.

I want to ask BOAZ his opinion of the Great Replacement Theory as it's now being practiced these days by those Republican white supremacists who want to secure the future of white children.

What say you, BOAZ?

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-18 04:16 PM | Reply

"What say you, BOAZ?"

Bozo thinks racism ended with WW2.

Since then, all of the black community's problems are their own fault and white supremacists have a duty to treat black people the way they do.

#6 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-18 04:44 PM | Reply

Pretty sure Boaz doesn't believe racism ever existed.

It was all just circumstance.

Liberals are to blame for creating nonexistent issues.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-18 04:53 PM | Reply

Bozo thinks racism ended with WW2.

#6 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2022-05-18 04:44 PM | FLAG:

Does he? One thing this country is famous for is using Gun Control to oppress black Americans.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-05-18 05:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

One thing this country is famous for is using Gun Control to oppress black Americans.

Guns can't oppress people. Only people can oppress people. Usually with guns.

But I'm sure a wooden board with a nail in it would be just as effective.

You sound like a liberal.

Ye haw!

Signed,

Conservatives

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-18 05:14 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Idiots say stupid ----.

#10 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-18 05:35 PM | Reply

#10

You prove it with every post, dad.

#11 | Posted by willowby at 2022-05-18 05:51 PM | Reply

#10 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2022-05-18 05:35 PM | FLAG:

Indeed. I mean, everybody that's been to college in the last 20 years knows that the US is an institutionally racist entity. All gun control laws always disproportionately lock up young men of color. White Protestants have been chasing that dragon since the Black Codes.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-05-18 06:35 PM | Reply

------- Dems. Always with the histrionics and overreach.

And "assault weapons" ban was never going to pass. Waste of time.

It also didn't do ---- to decrease crime the last time it was passed.

The "weapons of war" nonsense is worse.

I don't think I've ever seen a party so piss poor at reading the political winds and acting appropriately to move their agenda forward.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-18 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I am not anti-gun. I'm pro-knife. Consider the merits of the knife. In the first place, you have to catch up with someone in order to stab him. A general substitution of knives for guns would promote physical fitness. We'd turn into a whole nation of great runners. Plus, knives don't ricochet. And people are seldom killed while cleaning their knives."

Molly Ivins

#14 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2022-05-18 07:29 PM | Reply

"All laws always disproportionately lock up young men of color."

FTFY.

#15 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-05-18 07:40 PM | Reply

Yeah, exactly.

I'm against this particular thing on the excuse that it's bad for blacks.
Here's the list of all the other things I'm okay with, that are also bad for blacks.

It's blatantly racist --------, amigo. You're using blacks as human shields for your gun fetish.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-18 07:43 PM | Reply

I see President McConnel and Vice President Manchin are still ------- the country sideways.

Democrats are worthless. I should have voted for my pet rock.

#17 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-05-18 07:43 PM | Reply

"Consider the merits of the knife."

The 9/11 hijackers did.

"In the first place, you have to catch up with someone in order to stab him"

Apparently she's never seen anyone throw a knife, dart or any other sharp object.

#18 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-05-18 07:44 PM | Reply

Damn. Just had a flashback to high school, when one of my classmates was killed after being hit in the head by a discus. :-(

#19 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-05-18 07:47 PM | Reply

"All gun control laws always disproportionately lock up young men of color."

Guns disproportionately kill young men of color.

You think there might be a connection?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-18 07:54 PM | Reply

Guns disproportionately kill young men of color.

You trying to piss off Boaz?

Where is he to tell you guns don't kill anyone?

Those young men of color would have died regardless of how.

Also. Color is racist and gender is sexist.

"People die."

Thoughts and prayers.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-18 08:16 PM | Reply

The word "replacement" seems to have disappeared in the discussion.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-19 05:05 AM | Reply

I'm using blacks as human shields for my whataboutism while I actively pursue racist laws.

#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-05-18 07:43 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-05-19 08:02 AM | Reply

"All laws always disproportionately lock up young men of color."
FTFY.
#15 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2022-05-18 07:40 PM | FLAG:

Yeah, exactly.

#16 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-05-18 07:43 PM | FLAG:

So much fun with this one still. I'm sure that the US Federal Law that prohibits the use of a falconry bird in a movie that is not about falconry has locked up many black youths. They put those kids in a cell next to the ones selling runny ketchup, on the same block with those evil ----- that sell wine with labels that disparage their competitors product, in the same prison with the people that sell swiss cheese without holes.

Or not. It's almost always drug laws with a firearm kicker to feed a public-private prison industrial complex.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-05-19 08:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yea cause black don't want "replacement " either. Have you ever really listened to militant blacks?

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2022-05-19 10:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Well, good thing Dems are poised for a strong mid term showing. Pick up some House seats and a couple of Senate seats and Manchin no longer matters.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-19 10:55 AM | Reply

Yea cause black don't want "replacement " either. Have you ever really listened to militant blacks?

#25 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2022-05-19 10:39 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

How militant are we talking? Once upon a time I did a research project on The Houston Riot of 1917. It has a special distinction of being the only US race riot to kill more whites than blacks. A company from the 24th Infantry marched on downtown Houston to kill the police... or the much more tame Black Panther neighborhood watches? Either the way the results were the same. Gun Control. After the Houston mutiny, "they" (the white power structure) went to all of the black homes and confiscated firearms. They went to all of the white homes and handed out firearms to anybody that didn't have one.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-05-19 12:33 PM | Reply

Well, at least he's good for something. Very little, but something.

#28 | Posted by DarkVader at 2022-05-20 07:43 AM | Reply

Once again Democrats, when you lose the Senate and House in the midterms (most likely outcome), please flush the Republican riff raff from the party (e.g. Sinema, Manchin)....I will sleep better knowing its just the straight up corrupt republicans that we faces, and not Judas's within the party.

#29 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-05-20 09:56 AM | Reply

Branden should thank Manchin for limiting his disaster of an administration. He is saving Joe from himself.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 10:47 AM | Reply

Branden should thank Manchin for limiting his disaster of an administration. He is saving Joe from himself.

#31 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 10:52 AM | Reply

Yea cause black don't want "replacement " either. Have you ever really listened to militant blacks?
#25 | POSTED BY BOAZ

If Blacks don't want replacement, why do they get abortions at 3x the rate of Whites?

Or... Did you mean Blacks are like you, and don't want Whites to be replaced with e.g. the mud races like Sitzkrieg here?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 10:53 AM | Reply

After the Houston mutiny, "they" (the white power structure) went to all of the black homes and confiscated firearms. They went to all of the white homes and handed out firearms to anybody that didn't have one.
#27 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

^
And yet, given these facts, people still deny the racist intent and history of the Second Amendment.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 10:57 AM | Reply

Self defense is a right. Not all men are equally able to defend themselves, a firearm equalizes the fight. With a firearm even a small woman could defend herself against a large man.

#34 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 11:03 AM | Reply

"Not all men are equally able to defend themselves, a firearm equalizes the fight."

So why didn't slaves get firearms?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:06 AM | Reply

For a couple of reasons, though I'm not sure which is the most correct. 1. Slave were not considered persons with a right to self defense, 2. Owners feared weapons in the hands of slaves would be used against them.

Why does it matter? Do you believe in a right to self defense? I do.

#36 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 11:12 AM | Reply

"Owners feared weapons in the hands of slaves would be used against them."

^
Right there, that's the racism in the Second Amendment.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:13 AM | Reply

Do you believe in a right to self defense? I do.
#36 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

For slaves? The Second Amendment doesn't, for slaves.

Tell us that you think slaves should have been allowed to have guns. Then I'll consider your claim that you believe in the right to self defense.

Bonus points if you can find the Right to Self Defense in the Constitution!

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:15 AM | Reply

Like most people I wish that slavery never existed as a government sponsored institution. Most definitely it would be/have been appropriate for slaves to take up arms to free themselves. But that thinking is based on attitudes formed by growing up in the 20th century. Although there is an interpretation that the 2nd Ammendment grants a right to self defense, we don't need a right to self defense in the constitution. Self defense is a natural right.

#39 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 11:34 AM | Reply

"Most definitely it would be/have been appropriate for slaves to take up arms to free themselves. But that thinking is based on attitudes formed by growing up in the 20th century."

Really, nobody thought slavery was unjust in 1776?

You're truly a stupid man.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:37 AM | Reply

we don't need a right to self defense in the constitution. Self defense is a natural right.

#39 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

So it's an unenumerated right then. Kinda like abortion and the right to privacy is for women.

Gotcha.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-20 11:37 AM | Reply

"Really, nobody thought slavery was unjust in 1776?"

You have a tendency to eventually put every discussion into a binary dichotomy using suppostions that no one has made.

#42 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 11:41 AM | Reply

Donner, self defense and abortion rights are not unlimited. Do we have a right to privacy? I wish we did but it doesn't seem that we do. At least I don't think the goverment is doing so great at protecting the right to privacy.

#43 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 11:47 AM | Reply

"Do we have a right to privacy? I wish we did but it doesn't seem that we do."

Why isn't privacy a natural right?

How does it even make sense that self defense is a natural right,
But I can't use my natural right of Self Defense to protect my Privacy?

How did your brain get you to where you are? Please, please explain it to us!

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:53 AM | Reply

"I wish we did but it doesn't seem that we do. At least I don't think the goverment is doing so great at protecting the right to privacy."

Wow dude.

The Republicans whose asses you suck daily are the ones taking away your right to privacy.

You have to be one of the dumbest ----- in your ZIP code who doesn't have an extra chromosome, Visitor_.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 11:57 AM | Reply

Here we are, having a nice discussion and you have be insulting.

#46 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 12:01 PM | Reply

Please, do discuss why you agree with Alito that you don't have a right to privacy.

Or if that's not your political position, feel free to set the record straight!

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 12:03 PM | Reply

Do you want to have a real discussion or do you want to jump right to the false dichotomy and insults?

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-05-20 12:14 PM | Reply

I'd love to have a real discussion.

Please proceed, Governor.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 12:18 PM | Reply

Apparently she's never seen anyone throw a knife, dart or any other sharp object.

#18 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Until we have a world of Spykes the hazard from knives is far less than guns

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 12:35 PM | Reply

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