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Thursday, May 19, 2022

The House of Representatives passed new legislation designed to deal with the threat of domestic terrorism on Wednesday along a largely party line vote, with just one Republican in favor.

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It figures that the GQP would be pro-McVeigh.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-05-19 07:27 AM | Reply

Was Timothy McVeigh engaged in what the political wing of violent white extremism in this country calls "legitimate political discourse"? I'm asking, because the Overton Window has clearly expanded. And not in a good way.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-19 07:52 AM | Reply

These white domestic terrorists are half their voters.

Can't piss them off.

In the meantime everytime they block a bill to combat mass murders, gasoline gouging, etc they push more independents away from them.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-05-19 08:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If they called it the Anti-Antifa bill, would the result be different?

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-19 09:39 AM | Reply

"Domestic terrorism bill" sounds nice but what is actually in it?

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-19 10:50 AM | Reply

A photo of you with a red line across it.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-19 11:19 AM | Reply

#6. Cute.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-19 12:02 PM | Reply

Darrell Issa explained his objection to the bill by saying "This bill glaringly ignores the persistent domestic terrorism threat from the radical left in this country and instead makes the assumption that it is all on the white and the right."

Interesting that Issa would say that because the bill makes no mention of "the right."

The bill explicitly authorizes the creation of offices of Domestic Terrorism in the DOJ, Homeland Security, FBI to "monitor, analyze, investigate and prosecute" domestic terrorism. It also creates an inter-agency task force to combat the infiltration of extremism in the military and federal law enforcement. It also creates an inter-agency task force to combat the infiltration of extremism in the military and federal law enforcement and requires the joint task force needs to include a subsection in the report that focuses on the threat presented by white supremacists and neo-Nazis, as well as laying out other requirements for the report. Considering that DHS in 2020 classified the threat from white supremacists/neo-nazis as the biggest terrorism threat facing the nation it makes sense that Congress would want to give that category special attention.

It seems that Issa believes that there is an association between white supremacists/neo-nazis and the US political right so he voted to block law enforcement from giving extra scrutiny to the most serious terrorism threat in the US and he voted to protect that group from additional legal scrutiny.

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-05-19 12:34 PM | Reply

Repubs NEED the domestic terrorists. They're going to be their front line soldiers in Civil War 2.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-19 01:33 PM | Reply

Republicans are now the Soft On Terror Party.

That is really something else, I must say.

Trump destroyed the GOP and maybe someday America too. We're not out of the woods yet, and probably won't be until Trump and his children are dead.

See: Bongbong Marcos.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-19 04:04 PM | Reply

If they called it the Anti-Antifa bill, would the result be different?
#4 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2022-05-19 09:39 AM | REPLY

Since Antifa means Anti-Fascist, wouldn't your mythological bill just be called the Pro-Fascist bill? I'm sure the result would be different, probably wouldn't get 203 Republican No votes.

#11 | Posted by bartimus at 2022-05-19 04:17 PM | Reply

CPAC is holding a conference in Hungary, where authoritarian Prime Minister-for-life Victor Orban has seized power of the press and government. Probably looking for a roadmap so they can continue their quest to turn America into a white nationalist, authoritarian-run country.

Interesting article: Here's why American conservatives are heading to Hungary for a big conference

PS: Orban was very close with Vladimir Putin

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-19 04:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 | POSTED BY BARTIMUS

Good point.

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-19 06:24 PM | Reply

It sounds like the patriot act on steroids. I remember when lefties were extremely mistrusting of the surveillance state.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-19 08:00 PM | Reply

^
The republicans who co authored bill voted against their own bill

Sounds like the GOP with no morals and even less spine

#15 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-05-19 08:37 PM | Reply

They can't alienate their base, which happens to be a bunch of entitled racist weaklings

#16 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-05-19 08:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It sounds like the patriot act on steroids. I remember when lefties were extremely mistrusting of the surveillance state.

#14 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How so? Please explain because the patriot act is a huge complex bill filled with nex programs and this is barely anything.
Or are you just lying again because you didn't actually read the bill and have no idea what you are talking about like normal.

#17 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-05-20 12:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#17. It's another bureaucratic layer targeting the vague term "domestic terrorism", as if that would never be abused. Further, it's another layer of inefficiency. DHS is one of the major disasters of the Bush years.

Given that Democrats have already shown a willingness to usurp state and local powers and label parents protesting the actions of their school boards and sic the FBI and DOJ on those parents, yeah I'm skeptical to say the least.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 12:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#18 links??

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-20 12:38 AM | Reply

Given that Democrats have already shown a willingness to usurp state and local powers and label parents protesting the actions of their school boards and sic the FBI and DOJ on those parents, yeah I'm skeptical to say the least.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

Of course you are. You're always skeptical of the party that didn't become the cult of a con man and attempt to overthrow democracy. And never skeptical of the party that did.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-20 12:38 AM | Reply

@#18 ... parents protesting the actions of their school boards...

In this area what I've seen (and have posted links to) are parents protesting school board actions that did not exist.

Yup, parents assailing school boards to the point that the police had to be called.

But they were not able to substantiate their assertions regarding critical race theory being taught.

Yeah, you read that correctly, overheated parents protesting at a school board meeting against something that did not exist.

That caused me to ask the question, who or what is indoctrinating these parents to cause them to act so irrationally?

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-20 01:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18 you could have just said you were lying.

#22 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-05-20 02:08 AM | Reply

#22 it takes the already ridiculous and invasive powers of Patriot Act and adds yet another layer. - an injection of steroids. You may be cool with that but I'm not.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 09:52 AM | Reply

"Given that Democrats have already shown a willingness to usurp state and local powers and label parents protesting the actions of their school boards and sic the FBI and DOJ on those parents..."

Well, that's some major-league intellectual dishonesty. You're going to mention the results, without mentioning the actions?!? You're going to leave out the part where they threatened the school board with bodily harm, and said they were armed???

What kind of a first-class lying SOS are you trying to be?

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 01:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" it takes the already ridiculous and invasive powers of Patriot Act and adds yet another layer."

No it doesn't. It's the same domestic terrorism law, with no extra layers at all. You're just embarrassed at being caught in a lie, yet again.

Why didn't you mention these parents threatened bodily harm, and claimed they were armed?

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

First off, that was a LOCAL issue. Secondly, the poster child for it was a father whose daughter was sexually assaulted by a trans girl and the school tried to cover it up AND moved the trans girl to a different school clandestinely and she allegedly sexually assaulted another girl at the second school

When he began calling out the school board for their actions a woman activist accused his daughter of being a liar to his face. A cop tried to restrain him and he DID lose his cool and was hauled out in cuffs for disorderly conduct.

The initiative was launched at the behest of NSBA. Yes, that's right, they were doing the bidding of the NSBA. Further and most importantly, this was and is a LOCAL law enforcement issue. Which brings me back to my point, adding another bureaucratic layer with more "investigative focus" on US citizens is ripe for abuse, unless of course you don't believe this type of thing could ever be abused under Republican leadership.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:11 PM | Reply

Why do you lie Jeff. You lying bastard. It was a boy who attacked a girl in the restroom. It wasn't a trans girl. Can you ever be honest about anything??

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-20 02:21 PM | Reply

"Why do you lie Jeff. You lying bastard. It was a boy who attacked a girl in the restroom. It wasn't a trans girl. Can you ever be honest about anything??

#27 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2022-05-20 02:21 PM |"

My understanding is the boy was wearing a dress and claimed to identify as a girl. If that characterization is false then I will gladly retract and offer a correction.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:27 PM | Reply

wtop.com

Last May, a now-15-year-old boy sexually assaulted a girl in the bathroom at the same school. Months later, the student groped a student at Broad Run High School in Ashburn.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:29 PM | Reply

The reason the school board was covering it up was because they were trying to pass a rule allowing transgender children to utilize the restroom and locker room facilities of their choice and when asked if the school board knew of any sexual assaults in these safe spaces they lied and said no.

I have no idea if the person who was convicted identifies as male or trans female. I haven't seen it reported one way or another.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:33 PM | Reply

"Last May, a now-15-year-old boy sexually assaulted a girl in the bathroom"

That means the kid just turned 15, not the kid just became a boy.

"I have no idea if the person who was convicted identifies as male or trans female."

Clearly. But the article would point that out, if it were the case.

Time for a retraction and correction.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:35 PM | Reply

www.washingtonblade.com

"First of all, he is not transgender," the boy's mother told DailyMail.com in a Nov. 2 interview. "And I think this is all doing an extreme disservice to those students who actually identify as transgender," the newspaper quoted her as saying.

The mother, who agreed to the interview on grounds that she was not identified to protect the identity of her son, said her son identifies as heterosexual and absolutely does not identify as female.

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:36 PM | Reply

#29 Yes. This is the story I was referring to. My point was that it's ridiculous that the victim's father was a poster child "problem" parent and served as an example as to why parents need to be given the Patriot Act treatment, which is an example of how this new and completely unncecessary and likely counter-productive bureaucratic layer can be abused.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:37 PM | Reply

"A cop tried to restrain him and he DID lose his cool and was hauled out in cuffs for disorderly conduct.":

IOW, the parent did something stupid, to the point of having to be arrested and hauled away in cuffs.

Why didn't you mention the actions of members of "The Party of Responsibility" when doling out responsibility???

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:38 PM | Reply

#32 Perfect. Thank you for clearing that up. When I searched I couldn't find a source that said so one way or another. So, I retract calling this boy a transgirl and offer a correction to above: Where I described this boy as a transgirl, he's actually a boy.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:38 PM | Reply

"My point was that it's ridiculous that the victim's father was a poster child "problem" parent"

For disorderly conduct, including threats against the board???

And ffs, it's the folks like him who followed up with claiming they were armed, or would return armed, who got labeled "domestic terrorists", mainly because that's the term we use when folks use violence or threats of violence to get their way.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:40 PM | Reply

#29 Yes. This is the story I was referring to. My point was that it's ridiculous that the victim's father was a poster child "problem" parent and served as an example as to why parents need to be given the Patriot Act treatment, which is an example of how this new and completely unncecessary and likely counter-productive bureaucratic layer can be abused.

#33 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Now is where you need to prove that the feds had any involvement in the father's case

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:41 PM | Reply

#34 Are you aware of the full story?

The guy responded angrily to a woman telling him, to his face, that his daughter was a liar (it was later proven in court that this boy did indeed sexually assault her). His emotions had to be running high. The school board was covering it up and lying about it. As he was arguing with this woman the officer grabs his shoulder from behind and he wrenched away from the grab. It quickly went downhill from there.

But, if you want to accuse this father of doing something stupid under all of those circumstances, that says a LOT about you.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:41 PM | Reply

"When I searched I couldn't find a source that said so one way or another."

And you didn't understand the article?!?

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:42 PM | Reply

#37 I didn't say the feds were involved in his case. What I said was he was being held up as a poster child for the need for the feds to get involved in local issues.

I don't have a daughter but I have empathy and for Danforth to bag on this guy the way he's doing is really ------.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:44 PM | Reply

loudounnow.com

The issue of violence against School Board members reached new heights when the National School Board Association asked President Joseph R. Biden for "immediate assistance" for School Board members who've faced threats over mask mandates and Critical Race Theory. Following the NSBA's request to Biden, Garland directed the FBI and U.S. Attorneys' Offices to collaborate with law enforcement agencies to address the growing trend of threats against School Boards.

Loudoun School Board members have shared on social media threats and hateful messages received from online from parents. Atoosa Reaser (Algonkian), one of five School Board members facing a removal effort, shared on her Facebook a message she received in April.

"Don't be surprised when you low-IQ, poorly educated, and morally bankrupt pinko traitors are dragged from your beds in the middle of the night and hanged by the neck until dead by the righteously angry parents of your community," the message said.

And now is where you have to justify the feds NOT investigating threats against government employees

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#39 I understood the article. I couldn't find whether or not this boy identified as trans. Truthhurts provided clarity on that.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:45 PM | Reply

"...If you want to accuse this father of doing something stupid under all of those circumstances, that says a LOT about you"

Be sure you pick enough cherries for everyone.

Mainly, the parents were upset about things not happening, to the point of threatening school board members with bodily harm. You know...domestic terrorism stuff.

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 Jurisdiction.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:46 PM | Reply

#37 I didn't say the feds were involved in his case. What I said was he was being held up as a poster child for the need for the feds to get involved in local issues.
I don't have a daughter but I have empathy and for Danforth to bag on this guy the way he's doing is really ------.

#40 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

He wasn't being held up as a poster child.

The feds investigated Loudon County because of threats like those posted in 41

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:46 PM | Reply

" I couldn't find whether or not this boy identified as trans"

Huh???

You posted the exact phrase you chose to misunderstand.

And without the article mentioning "trans", you went there.

#46 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 Jurisdiction.

#44 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Wrong.

Say a threatening email came from PA or WV. Interstate crime is a federal crime.

Say a threatening letter was mailed. Mailing threats through the US Postal system is a federal crime.

See, you are wrong.

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:48 PM | Reply

"the parents were upset about things not happening"

Uh huh. So, you know more about what is going on in school boards in states in which you don't reside far better than the parents who live it and whose children live it on a daily basis.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:48 PM | Reply

...but I have empathy...

#40 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

ROFLMAO!!!

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:49 PM | Reply

"for Danforth to bag on this guy"

I'm not bagging on that guy. I'm bagging on YOU, for taking an outlier and pretending it's the norm.

You're completely avoiding the behavior of the majority parents who rightly got tagged for their attempts at domestic terrorism.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:51 PM | Reply

"Say a threatening email came from PA or WV. Interstate crime is a federal crime."

Then that wouldn't be a parent. The language is specific to "parents".

"Say a threatening letter was mailed. Mailing threats through the US Postal system is a federal crime."

The USPS has its own criminal investigation division. It's not part of the FBI. No jurisdiction.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-05-20 02:51 PM | Reply

"Uh huh. So, you know more about what is going on in school boards..."

I know if CRT is being taught, versus parents barfing about it being taught.

"far better than the parents who live it and whose children live it on a daily basis."

Did you see the passages in the math books DeSantis pulled for CRT? Do you agree with the Florida Governor?

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-05-20 02:55 PM | Reply

"Say a threatening email came from PA or WV. Interstate crime is a federal crime."
Then that wouldn't be a parent. The language is specific to "parents".
"Say a threatening letter was mailed. Mailing threats through the US Postal system is a federal crime."
The USPS has its own criminal investigation division. It's not part of the FBI. No jurisdiction.

#51 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The feds were investigating threats against school boards, your ilk characterized them as the parents.

hair splitting you be

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:56 PM | Reply

#22 it takes the already ridiculous and invasive powers of Patriot Act and adds yet another layer. - an injection of steroids. You may be cool with that but I'm not.

#23 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Do you have anything toa actually support this assertion? Or are you hyperventilating again like the misinformation task force?

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-20 02:58 PM | Reply

Jeffj is just fine with not doing anything to investigate threats against school boards.

And when someone does a buffalo shooter on a school board, he will blame the feds for not having done enough to stop a liberal from committing terrorism.

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 02:58 PM | Reply

Because as sure as god made little green apples, some nutjob 8chan type is gearing up to take down a CRT preaching, pedo grooming, commie pinko school board-because they heard about it on tucker's show

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-20 03:00 PM | Reply

My understanding is the boy was wearing a dress and claimed to identify as a girl. If that characterization is false then I will gladly retract and offer a correction.
#28 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Where'd you get that understanding?
Whoever told you that was lying.
And I bet you still trust them.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The GQP voted against this because they don't want the FBI to have new tools to go after their base. They understand where their bread is buttered, the violent, racist, fascist Xtian White Reich, or Ultra MAGA as President Biden has called them is the base of the GQP and will be the brown shirts for Dotard and his successor.

#58 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2022-05-20 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Republican Party has become the political wing of a seditious, fascistic movement that very much includes and embraces its less public, militant, violent coconspirators, i.e. right wing terrorists.

#59 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-21 08:33 AM | Reply

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