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Thursday, May 19, 2022

Russian President Vladimir Putin has lost faith in his top general and has fired other senior commanders for their high-profile and embarrassing failures on the battlefield in Ukraine, British intelligence believes.

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Well, if the fault lies not in the plan - and it cannot, for obvious reasons, be the plan - obviously we're dealing with a failure to properly execute. Possibly bordering on or crossing the line into, not to put too fine a point on it, sabotage? Likely widespread. A plot.

I'll bet Vlad's beady little eyes are darting around like those of a tweaked getting itchy for supply.

That closed feedback loop that's helped drive Putout Putin into the corner he inhabits today? It's getting more constricted.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-19 01:23 PM | Reply

Dude, you're babbling. He's firing a few incompetents. You're seeing something nobody else does. Grow a brain.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-05-19 02:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

People with brains don't ooze out Putin's Nazi Propaganda like daily diarrhea.

Is he by any chance holding your balls hostage?

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-19 02:32 PM | Reply

Speaking of babbling, El Feet, do say more.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-19 03:33 PM | Reply

@#1 ... That closed feedback loop that's helped drive Putout Putin into the corner he inhabits today? ...

That's the problem when you surround yourself with people who are afraid to disagree with you.

The big question is --- will those who Pres Putin appoints to those recently vacated positions be more or less likely to disagree with what Pres Putin tells them to say?

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-19 04:17 PM | Reply

Nothing like micro-managing a complete sh#tshow to prove what a savvy genius you are.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-19 06:18 PM | Reply

Firing, or Firing Squad?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-19 06:52 PM | Reply

Filing Squad... filing off to the Gulags with the kidnapped Ukrainians.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-19 07:23 PM | Reply

[throws out stupidity grenade and pats himself on shoulder for FluffingThatPooty] #2 | Posted by PootyFluffer

#9 | Posted by censored at 2022-05-19 07:39 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Dude, you're babbling. ...

Perhaps, maybe the first thing your comment should try to achieve is to differentiate a comment your alias tags as "babbling" from most of what your alias posts.

Jus' sayin'.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-19 07:39 PM | Reply

So,I'm babbling too. Gotcha.

#11 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-05-19 11:42 PM | Reply

Dude, you're babbling. He's firing a few incompetents. You're seeing something nobody else does. Grow a brain.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer

Incompetents? they werent effective enough at slaughtering women and children?

Funny how it's hard to motivate troops to do that sort of thing and they start "failing" on purpose because they have souls.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-19 11:55 PM | Reply

@#11 ... So,I'm babbling too. Gotcha. ...

No, you've not really convinced me that you "Gotcha."

But lies seem to come so easily to your alias,so why should I even think you "Gotcha" when you say "Gotcha?"

Really, serious question.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-20 01:53 AM | Reply

Good news, you boss wants to talk to you about strategy, bad news your boss wants to talk to you about strategy. If you disagree with him you go to jail, if you agree with his insane invasion you will lose the war, and a lot of your troops will die.
Nightmare time.

#14 | Posted by Hughmass at 2022-05-20 07:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You're seeing something nobody else does."

FTA
"A culture of cover-ups and scape-goating is probably prevalent within the Russian military and security system," according to the assessment. "Many officials involved in the invasion of Ukraine will likely be increasingly distracted by efforts to avoid personal culpability for Russia's operational set-backs.

DUDE, EVERYONE SEES IT BUT YOU.

apparently YOU didn't even read the article before you jumped in to try and protect poor pooty poot again.

With the thoughts that you be thinkin'
You could be another Lincoln
If you only had a brain.

if you only had a brain ... you'd be dangerous.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-20 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Towards the end, Hitler was also making tactical, battlefield-level decisions. Despite the fact that Germany had some of the most brilliant officers in the conflict.

I think Putin is a lot like Hitler. And Trump for that matter. They all think that they were preordained to do something great for their country that absolutely no one else could do. And when they start losing, they take a greater and greater role in making decisions about things they often times know very little about. And because they were "chosen," they convince themselves that it must be the fault of someone else...not themselves.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-20 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What are you basing that whole line of reasoning on?

Hitler did something so Putin must be too? Why?

Show where that's in evidence at all. These are two different men. Not archetypes, actual people.

Can you show it? Or is it just more psychobabble?

Evidence,or is that a bad word?

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-05-20 02:51 PM | Reply

"Good news, you boss wants to talk to you about strategy, bad news your boss wants to talk to you about strategy. If you disagree with him you go to jail, if you agree with his insane invasion you will lose the war, and a lot of your troops will die.
Nightmare time."

In the summer of 1939, Georgy Zhukov (who later led the Soviet Union to victory against the Germans) was recalled to Moscow by Kliment Voroshilov. Stalin wanted him to take command of the 57th Special Corps in the far east. Or so he was told. Zhukov fully expected to be arrested and interrogated by the NKVD.

He wasn't. He took command of the 57th, and later led the Soviets to victory against the Japanese in Manchuria at Khalkhin Gol. But he was the only Russian commander at Khalkhin Gol to survive Stalin's purges. The rest were executed, and then their executioners were executed.

You might see why Russian officers might not be too keen to give Putin the truth.

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-20 02:59 PM | Reply

"What are you basing that whole line of reasoning on?"

Observation?

Sound military judgement?

The fact that we've seen this before?

History?

#19 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-20 03:00 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

That's a very insightful summation of the corner Putin has gotten himself into. One wonders at what point his hubris will turn into irrationality.

#20 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-05-20 03:10 PM | Reply

#20 The irrationally kicked in, probably before the invasion did.

Remember when Biden announced Putin's next move, for weeks on end prior to the invasion?

I could see that causing Putin to lose his cool.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 03:12 PM | Reply

Stalin and Putin are not the same person. You do know that, right? Russia in not the USSR. You do know that, right?

You got anything current and relevant or just a lot of unsupported opinions?

Truman nuked Japan. He was a democrat, so obviously Biden as a democrat 78 years later is going to nuke Russia now.

Your reasoning is laughable. Biden isn't Truman.

Putin isn't Stalin. Russia isn't the USSR.

Duh?

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-05-20 03:16 PM | Reply

"The irrationally kicked in, probably before the invasion did."

Long before. There have been suggestions that Putin has some sort of illness, or possibly what one might refer to as an "underlying condition." During much of the COVID pandemic he was holed up at one of his rural retreats. When he met with anyone, he did so from one end of a very long table. But he didn't meet with people often.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-20 03:31 PM | Reply

"Russia in not the USSR. You do know that, right?"

They seem to have a penchant for flying the Soviet flag on their tanks rolling into Ukraine.

There seems to be some connection there.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-20 03:52 PM | Reply

Russia isn't the USSR.

Duh?

#22 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Not much of a history buff are you? Never actually heard a word Putin has ever said?

He has ranted for hours about restoring the empire. If Putin where to have his way he would retake all of territory the USSR lost. He wants to be remembered like Catherine and Peter the Great.

To restore the empire Ukraine was just the first step. Moldova would have probably been next except for his failure to take Ukraine. .

There are 1500 russian troops already waiting in Moldova to hook with Vlad the Conqueror.

Except he can't get thru Ukraine. Poor poor pooty poot. He done stepped right in the Ukrainians doo doo. And hopefully he will get buried in it.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-20 04:18 PM | Reply

Russia isn't the USSR.
Duh?
#22 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Is Ukraine part of Russia?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-20 04:21 PM | Reply

Is it?

#27 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-05-20 06:23 PM | Reply

Is it?

#27 | Posted by Effeteposer

Can you say it's not without getting locked up?

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-20 06:28 PM | Reply

Putin isn't Stalin. Russia isn't the USSR.

Duh?

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer

Stalin was one of the worst human beings in history.

You can be not as bad as stalin and still be a horrible evil murderous tyrant.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-20 06:29 PM | Reply

Putin is firing many top generals.

Yeah! Because changing the toilet paper always makes a ---- show less repulsive!

#30 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-05-20 09:02 PM | Reply


Putin is firing many top generals.
Yeah! Because changing the toilet paper always makes a ---- show less repulsive!

Biden should have fired some top generals after the botched Afghanistan withdraw, he made that ---- show more repulsive.

It basically started his slide towards irrelevancy to the RoW.

#31 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-05-20 09:12 PM | Reply

The child-raping orange turd pardoned Russian stooge General Flynn. Now that was a ---- show.

#32 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-05-20 09:23 PM | Reply

"Biden should have fired some top generals after the botched Afghanistan withdraw, he made that ---- show more repulsive."

For what?

Doing what he told them to do?

Military leadership had long recommended staying at Bagram indefinitely. Biden's cap on the number of troops (700) who could remain in AFG meant that they could either maintain operations at Bagram, a more secure location, or keep the embassy in Kabul open. Biden chose to keep the embassy open.

There is a whole other DoS -----who component here as well. They were directed to begin NEO planning months before the fall of Kabul, but blew it off. Which meant that the DoD had to jump through hoops in the months leading up to the fall, just to compensate for the failures of the DoS.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-21 02:54 AM | Reply

Of course Putin's shifting and blaming personnel. After all, the blame for this monumental fookup cannot be laid off on the Putin-approved Plan (and certainly not on Putin himself). It's just a question of how many people get blamed and how severe the punishment regimen. Doubtful this current iteration of poor leadership - an ongoing theme in the Russian saga - will go as far as Stalin. But he'd probably like to.

#34 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-21 05:12 AM | Reply

#31 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Swing and a miss, stooge-boy.

#35 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-21 10:14 AM | Reply

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