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Monday, May 23, 2022

The House Select Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol riots will hold six public hearings next month to reveal evidence that Donald Trump and his allies broke the law in their efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

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"The panel has already accused Trump of breaking multiple federal laws in his attempt to remain in the White House, and the hearings -- starting and ending with 8 p.m. hearings on June 9 and June 23 -- will explain how investigators reached those conclusions.

The select committee will also stage 10 a.m. hearings on June 13, 15, 16 and 21.

A committee member will lead each of the hearings, but top investigative lawyers who understand the evidence will primarily question the witnesses, most of whom have been subpoenaed, and they will also present texts, photos and videos detailing the attempt to overturn the presidential election.

The final hearing will connect Trump's political plan for Jan. 6 with violence carried out by the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, which the Select Committee believes will show the former president led a criminal conspiracy, and they believe the evidence is so compelling that they may rearrange the schedule to present those findings first."

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Damn tourists!!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 01:10 PM | Reply

So all they'll have is theater, just like the second impeachment.

It'll end up weak, ineffective and a waste of time preaching to the choir.

In the end it will amount to nothing but more hot air from people who can't get their head out of their own ass long enough to actually act on something.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-23 01:54 PM | Reply

Hell, man, theatre is more effective than most things at moving the political needle these days.

This is about swaying moderate swing state voters and reinforcing the facts to the base, not about changing the minds of Trumpers.

What is available under current law is slow and likely ineffectual, and as in so many other cases, it is better for the lawyers to have this show out of the way and the players on the record before taking them to trial... which trials would have lasted way beyond the election.

And which trials are not only enhanced by these investigations, but can still be held.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 02:02 PM | Reply

This will be a loud fart. It'll make alot of noise, smell badly, dissipate quickly and dems will be left pointing fingers of blame.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-23 02:59 PM | Reply

Swing voters need to see Dem Unity, not be given reasons to not vote.

Besides which....

"Every competent prosecutor knows why Garland and the Department of Justice have not indicted Trump. I'm going to say it out loud.

If Trump were charged, it's unlikely he would negotiate a plea deal. Instead, he would go to trial and make every step of the process a platform to cast himself as a victim of a vindictive Biden administration.

He would use the renewed attention to spew lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. And he would raise money, lots of money, to fund his anticipated 2024 presidential campaign.

But most important, despite a mountain of evidence that would convict most people many times over, Trump would not be convicted.

Criminal convictions require a unanimous verdict. On a 12-person jury, there are going to be Trump supporters."

www.nydailynews.com

more at the link

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 03:08 PM | Reply

Yawwwwnnnn. Until Democrats grow a pair and charge Trump with these crimes it's all just for show. Of course he will never face charges because presidents protect their own regardless of party affiliation.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-23 03:47 PM | Reply

" Until Democrats grow a pair"

#6 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

You should talk.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-23 04:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You should talk.

POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2022-05-23 04:00 PM |

Hey now. I grew a pair a nice perky pair.

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-23 04:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

In the words of Bullwinkle the moose, "Rocky...watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat...presto..."

"Must have been the wrong hat"

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-05-23 05:02 PM | Reply

- Yawwwwnnnn.

That was really, really close to an argument, for you...

#8

That was funny enough to forget #6.

#9

That was nonsensical. Unless of course all rioters and all the conniving traitors among the President's Men were cartoon characters.... OK, you may have something there.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 05:47 PM | Reply

Criminal convictions require a unanimous verdict. On a 12-person jury, there are going to be Trump supporters."

Depends on where you hold the trial. If in DC, the likelihood of finding a Trump supporter is diminished substantially compared to having a trial in a bright red state.

Instead, he would go to trial and make every step of the process a platform to cast himself as a victim of a vindictive Biden administration. He would use the renewed attention to spew lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election

There are gag orders that a judge could impose that would shut that non-sense down. It would be interesting to see Trump in a muzzle.

Just because a trial is difficult doesn't give the judicial system an excuse to not take a case to trial.

#11 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-05-23 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Any lawyer worth his salt could find at least one Trumper in DC.

And what a judge could do doesn't mean he will.

But I might agree with you anyway because "justice", except for fact that no gag order would stop the money typhoon that would be created for Trump by a criminal trial

Besides, there's no hurry. It can, and probably will in multiple districts on multiple criminal issues happen.

Just after the Election this year.

What's funny is that the Dems finally do something halfway smart, and they still just get grief about it.... which fuels the swing voter suppression effort for the other side.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 05:59 PM | Reply

#12 All you have are excuses for the Democratic party. Quite typical of you Corky.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-23 06:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13

Still you don't have an argument for those "excuses" aka arguments.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the long run, Trump probably isn't going to do any jail time. So don't get your hopes up. Anticipating federal charges is exactly why he stacked the Supreme Court and he doesn't care how many appeals it takes to get him there.

Of course, all that is going to take a lot of time and expose a lot of dirt about him and also the co-conspirator witnesses who are selling him out to save themselves.

With any luck, the fence sitters are paying attention and taking notes. How could they not?

I never did think jail time was the object anyway. I think the real object is to ruin Trump for any political office for the rest of his life. And that includes any of his mini-me candidates.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-23 06:31 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY CORKY

So confirmation this is all theater.

Thanks.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-05-23 06:51 PM | Reply

Drum head trial would be fine
Arrested tried convicted and sentence carried out within 24 hours
Justice served
It's not like it is even a question

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-23 06:57 PM | Reply

Still you don't have an argument for those "excuses" aka arguments.

#14 | POSTED BY CORKY A

502 days and counting

All the argument needed

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-23 06:58 PM | Reply

Rest assured trump will do what he can to make no statement about that day.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2022-05-23 07:23 PM | Reply

- So confirmation this is all theater.

Trump appreciates the support of anyone who lowers the voter turnout among swing voters by confirming that the parties are the same.

They are definitely different, with a few not so stupid people on both sides.

Not only that, here's the maths to what I am saying:

www.youtube.com

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 07:39 PM | Reply

Do STFU already Corky. You're too wed to the party to offer up ay criticism of it. It's rather pathetic to say the least.

#21 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-23 07:44 PM | Reply

#21

Are you sure that's the least you can say?

I'm pretty confident it's not...

- You're too wed to the party to offer up ay criticism of it.

What's funny is that the Dems finally do something halfway smart, and they still just get grief about it.... which fuels the swing voter suppression effort for the other side.
#12 | POSTED BY CORKY

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-23 07:57 PM | Reply

What's funny is that the Dems finally do something halfway smart, and they still just get grief about it.... which fuels the swing voter suppression effort for the other side.
#12 | POSTED BY CORKY

What is smart about not indicting treasonous behavior?

Because as sure as god made little green apples the window to do something is closing fast

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-23 08:00 PM | Reply

It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.... see my posts here and or the link in 20 for why.

If the GOP takes the House and or Senate, you can say goodbye to any kind of justice for 1/6.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-24 12:28 AM | Reply

It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.... see my posts here and or the link in 20 for why.
If the GOP takes the House and or Senate, you can say goodbye to any kind of justice for 1/6.
POSTED BY CORKY AT 2022-05-24 12:28 AM | REPLY

Give me a break Corky. The Democrats are a weak willed bunch. They won't seek justice because they sadly don't have what it takes and that's chutzpah. Give up the charade.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-24 12:45 AM | Reply

Obviously you've perfected the declarative statement, absolutely argument-free post.

Congrats!

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-24 01:25 AM | Reply

TRUTHY

Check the constitutional definition of the word "traitor." It only applies during a time of war.

OTOH, I guess a sharp prosecutor might take a stab at saying the former President, purely by his actions, rhetoric and attempted subversion of the electoral process, orchestrated an unofficial declaration of war on the United State, thus possibly making him an actual traitor by a stretch of the definition.

Which, in my opinion, is exactly what he did.

#27 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-24 06:26 AM | Reply

Anyone on here defending Trump or how the GOP acts towards Trump should be embarrassed.

It's also unpatriotic.

#28 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-05-24 10:30 AM | Reply

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...A significant question facing the House Select Committee investigating the attack on the U.S. Capitol, as well as federal courts handling Jan. 6 criminal cases, is the extent to which then-President Donald Trump is responsible for the actions of many who stormed the Capitol that day, especially including those with ties to extremist organizations. This article examines the publicly available evidence to date relying on three types of information.

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#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-05-24 10:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the Dems finally do something halfway smart, and they still just get grief about it.

What makes six hearings smart?

Why not three, or twelve, or fifty? Please expound on the wisdom of the stated strategy.

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-24 10:58 AM | Reply

What makes the number of Hearings relevant?

The Election strategery is in the link @ #20.

What was smart was not pushing criminal prosecution before the Hearings, as #12.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-24 03:54 PM | Reply

Just in time for everyone to be on summer vacation and not paying attention. Only a year and a half after the fascist coup attempt.

Does Benny thompson even have a pulse?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-25 08:04 PM | Reply

"The panel has already accused Trump of breaking multiple federal laws

Oh goodie he broke federal laws. Meaning he'll be pardoned by desantis or himself in only 2 years before ever seeing the inside of a jail cell.

What am I saying? As if garland has the balls to even prosecute him.

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-25 08:07 PM | Reply

SPEAKS

You have to get over this idea of Trump never seeing the inside of a jail cell. That's not going to happen. It's not even the object.

America doesn't put ex-presidents in jail. At least, never has. America just destroys them politically, so bad, in fact, that they spend the rest of their lives in disgrace, and political solitude.

Putting Trump in prison would only give him a platform to keep singing his tales of woe and injustice. It would give his base another excuse for violence. It would give America's enemies abroad a propaganda tool.

There are worse things than prison for people like Trump. Loss of relevance is the worst.

#34 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-26 04:07 AM | Reply

America doesn't put ex-presidents in jail. At least, never has. America just destroys them politically, so bad, in fact, that they spend the rest of their lives in disgrace, and political solitude.

Putting Trump in prison would only give him a platform to keep singing his tales of woe and injustice. It would give his base another excuse for violence. It would give America's enemies abroad a propaganda tool.

There are worse things than prison for people like Trump. Loss of relevance is the worst.

#34 | Posted by Twinpac

Ex presidents have never attempted to overthrow the government before.

To maintain the rule of law and prevent that from ever happening again, it requires a punishment that has never been used before.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-26 12:29 PM | Reply

SPEAKS

"Ex presidents have never attempted to overthrow the government before."

A case could certainly be made for that.

#36 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-26 05:19 PM | Reply

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