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Wednesday, May 25, 2022

Florida State Representative Randy Fine appeared to make a threat toward President Joe Biden over the Second Amendment following the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas on Tuesday.

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I've made this point several times.

According to many conservatives, the assassinations of Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy is why we have the Second Amendment.

Especially Lincoln, for what he did. Nudge nudge, wink wink.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-25 05:15 PM | Reply

Yeah, this isn't a culture or an identity at all.

I mean, people threaten the President of the United States all the time when they think he's banning other tools like hammers or flathead screwdrivers.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2022-05-25 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well this latest massacre was at a public school so I guess the shooter was using his 2nd amendment right

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-25 06:39 PM | Reply

I've got news for this embarrassing little -----. Libs are packin' and we're coming after YOU.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-25 07:17 PM | Reply

Amazing how the NRA keep missing the words "well regulated militia" in their second amendments claims.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-05-26 04:16 AM | Reply

Incels, fantasists, gun fetishists, racialists, angry and paranoid. And that's just the public face of the gun lobby's bought-and-paid-for adherents and stooges.

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-05-26 08:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Biden sbiden should use the defense appropriation power to buy all the bullets.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2022-05-26 08:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Amazing how the NRA keep missing the words "well regulated militia" in their second amendments claims.

Amazing how you keep missing the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2022-05-26 09:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#8 - Amazing a Putin Pedophile would show up here and show his ammosexuality and enables child killers with guns.

#9 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-05-26 10:31 AM | Reply

"Republican Issues Biden Second Amendment Threat"

Good, they need to after the shooting in Uvalde. After Law enforcement let that mentally ill sick --- bring carnage on children for 40 minutes while they stood outside with their thumb up their ass.

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 10:55 AM | Reply

apnews.com

#11 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:01 AM | Reply

Can you get a howitzer? A fully automatic machine gun? A shoulder-fired missile?

People are ------- idiots.

#12 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-26 11:03 AM | Reply

Oh, and btw, THIS IS THE 2nd AMENDMENT. YOU DON'T GET TO CHERRY PICK

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-05-26 11:07 AM | Reply

"Oh, and btw"

Oh shut the ---- up, parrot. if you don't like the constitution, you're free to pick a nice third world country and take all 3 of your possessions with you.

#14 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:11 AM | Reply

#14 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

The militia idea has a chance of making the 2nd Amendment respected again.

As it stands, it looks like you people want someone to murder kids.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As it stands, it looks like you people want someone to murder kids.

#15 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2022-05-26 11:14 AM | REPLY

more mental illness from the lead groomer.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:18 AM | Reply

"Republican Issues Biden Second Amendment Threat"
Good, they need to after the shooting in Uvalde.

#10 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

So, you are advocating killing Biden over the Uvalde shooting?

One wonders why some don't consider 1/6 an insurrection.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-26 11:18 AM | Reply

more mental illness from the lead groomer.

#16 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Let me, guess....You own an AR-15?

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 11:20 AM | Reply

Fra be it from me to insult anyone's gun. I understand you people see them as extension of your own bodies. Extensions of what, one wonders?

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 11:21 AM | Reply

more mental illness

#16 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

What makes you think that the murderer who butchered those kids was mentally ill?

The most likely idea is that he was simply pissed at someone, like the parents of those kids.

How many pissed people own AR-15s?

Are you feeling angry today?

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, you are advocating killing Biden over the Uvalde shooting?
One wonders why some don't consider 1/6 an insurrection.

#17 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-05-26 11:18 AM

Go ahead and follow in the footsteps of Twin and Clownshack with your dumbass comments like that. Let's see how that works out for you.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:32 AM | Reply

"What makes you think that the murderer who butchered those kids was mentally ill?"

I was talking about you.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:33 AM | Reply

"Republican Issues Biden Second Amendment Threat"
Good, they need to after the shooting in Uvalde. After Law enforcement let that mentally ill sick --- bring carnage on children for 40 minutes while they stood outside with their thumb up their ass.

#10 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Just a sec... What does Biden have to do with that? I don't know the specific politics of Uvalde, TX, but I don't get the impression it is a liberal hotspot. And the congressional representative is a Republican, so at least the area around there is conservative.

So... why do conservatives hire such cowardly and incompetent police officers (according to you)? Or are you claiming that police officers in general are just cowardly and incompetent?

You seem to think that someone needs to be held accountable. Mainly to find a scapegoat so that you can defend your continued support of unregulated guns being widespread in this country. But look at the mental gymnastics you find necessary for assigning your scapegoat. The shooting happened in a conservative area of a conservative state (Texas for God's sake). There was an armed security officer on site, and those brave boys in blue (that you badge sniffers usually worship) there pretty much immediately. It is obvious that conservatives hold complete responsibility for this incident. And if you believe that it is worth the cost for the tree of liberty to be watered with the blood (and lives) of these 19 innocent children, then you should say so. But to try to blame liberals for what happened just shows how cowardly and partisan you really are. Either take responsibility, as a conservative (though, honestly, it would be the first time that a conservative took responsibility for ANYTHING), for what you built here, or have an honest conversation of what should be changed to prevent it happening in the future. But I know conservatives, and you people would much prefer lies and FUD and emotional outbursts over anything that might be mature or constructive.

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2022-05-26 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The United States is a third world country with Gucci sunglasses.

#24 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-05-26 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"What does Biden have to do with that?"

If law enforcement isn't going to protect people from mass shootings when they have the opportunity, no one should be trying to restrict innocent, law abiding citizens from purchasing firearms in any way, shape, form or fashion.

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 11:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If law enforcement isn't going to protect people from mass shootings when they have the opportunity, no one should be trying to empower citizens with criminal intent to purchase firearms in any way, shape, form or fashion.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-26 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The United States is a third world country with Gucci sunglasses.

POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2022-05-26 11:42 AM | REPLY

Hell we can't even afford Foster Grants these days.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-05-26 11:48 AM | Reply

Go ahead and follow in the footsteps of Twin and Clownshack with your dumbass comments like that. Let's see how that works out for you.
#21 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Wow wee.

How deep inside that empty noggin of yours have I taken residence?

Not surprising to see you screaming like a lunatic about your gun lust.

19 dead children, 2 dead teachers.

You're howling about liberals and Biden and Twin and me.

Rest assured.

You're a garbage human being.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 11:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

So, you are advocating killing Biden over the Uvalde shooting?
One wonders why some don't consider 1/6 an insurrection.
#17 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-05-26 11:18 AM
Go ahead and follow in the footsteps of Twin and Clownshack with your dumbass comments like that. Let's see how that works out for you.

#21 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

I'm just trying to follow your "logic"

The congressman tweeted the following: "I have news for the embarrassment that claims to be our President " try to take our guns and you'll learn why the Second Amendment was written in the first place,"

The intent of this tweet is pretty clear-if Biden pursues gun control laws that the congressman considers infringing on his 2nd amendment rights, Biden will be the subject of a 2nd amendment response. I interpret that as shorthand for an assassination attempt, as that is what many conservatives argue is the justification for the 2nd amendment-for the citizenry to be able to fight tyranny.

Then YOU chime in with: "Republican Issues Biden Second Amendment Threat"
Good, they need to after the shooting in Uvalde.

You proceed to muddy your argument with the discussion of law enforcement's poor response.

the alleged right to self-defense is NOT the subject of this thread, so tying the 2 things together is problematic-on YOUR part.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-26 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What does Biden have to do with that?

He's a partisan shill.

He can't blame the Republicans who created the gun laws in Texas.

He can't blame the Republicans for anything.

So. Like a fkkking moron. He belches out "Biden Bad!"

That's pretty much all you'll get from that syphilitic, brain dead moron.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The congressman tweeted the following: "I have news for the embarrassment that claims to be our President " try to take our guns and you'll learn why the Second Amendment was written in the first place,"

So I see how you're trying to spin that. sick ---.

Let me explain how I see it. If Biden takes extreme measures on gun control and is lucky enough to impose it on Americans, it would likely make a huge number of us felons immediately. No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a firearm round up. It has nothing to do with doing anything to the president as he wouldn't be involved in said roundup. Added to the situation is the fact that most law enforcement personnel wouldn't comply. So yeah, I can smell a lot of trouble with this scenario.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 12:19 PM | Reply

Let me explain how I see it. If Biden takes extreme measures on gun control and is lucky enough to impose it on Americans, it would likely make a huge number of us felons immediately. No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a firearm round up. It has nothing to do with doing anything to the president as he wouldn't be involved in said roundup. Added to the situation is the fact that most law enforcement personnel wouldn't comply. So yeah, I can smell a lot of trouble with this scenario.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So your defense is - they're not threatening biden, they're threatening law enforcement.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-26 12:28 PM | Reply

lefthandedturd is an angry young man; don't expect consistent logic

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-26 12:30 PM | Reply

No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a firearm round up.

You're going to try and shot at the US Military?

After the first few of your buddies get shot up and drop dead.

The rest of you gun carrying cowards will hand over your weaponry.

You're not better supplied than the military.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 12:36 PM | Reply

Let me explain how I see it. If Biden takes extreme measures on gun control and is lucky enough to impose it on Americans, it would likely make a huge number of us felons immediately. No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a firearm round up. It has nothing to do with doing anything to the president as he wouldn't be involved in said roundup. Added to the situation is the fact that most law enforcement personnel wouldn't comply. So yeah, I can smell a lot of trouble with this scenario.

#31 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Please link to anywhere where Biden has proposed a firearm "round up" for law abiding citizens.

Because I am pretty sure that this is just a demented little fantasy of yours, of things gullible simpletons are TOLD to think about liberals by conservative elites who control the propaganda sources (ie Fox "News") that you gurgle down on a daily basis.

But I would be happy to be better informed if you can prove me wrong. Show me where he has proposed actually taking away any guns that people ALREADY have (as opposed to just regulating their sale and transfer).

You may even look for it. Be SURE that he must have. Because the gullible conservative base is indoctrinated to internalize the lies that the conservative elites feed to them. But, your argument is just a strawman. I am pretty liberal, but would not be in favor of a "firearm round up". That is not what most liberals or moderates are asking for. But the thought of it gets you all emotional, which allows the elites to easily manipulate you into doing what is in THEIR interests, and you have no problem demurely following their lead because you LIKE being angry and outraged at "liberals" (whether or not the basis of your outrage has any foundation in reality).

#35 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2022-05-26 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

- a demented little fantasy of yours

It's the Gun Lobby propaganda they swallow whole.

There's maybe one or two votes in all of Congress for confiscating all weapons.

It's a tired old canard, another Big Lie.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 01:56 PM | Reply

"Please link to anywhere where Biden has proposed a firearm "round up" for law abiding citizens."

There is no way you could ever do an Aussie-style gun confiscation in the US. First, there is the second amendment. Second, I don't think there are enough people with the kind of balls necessary to do a round up. The progressives who support gun control sure as ---- aren't. I don't think the cops will. The military sure as hell won't.

Who does that leave? Some left-wing paramilitary group? Are the militant leftists going to give up their guns?

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-26 02:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Who does that leave?

Insipid rwingers who buy into the Big Lie about the boogie-Dems confiscating all the guns?

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 03:07 PM | Reply

There is no way you could ever do an Aussie-style gun confiscation in the US. First, there is the second amendment. Second, I don't think there are enough people with the kind of balls necessary to do a round up. The progressives who support gun control sure as ---- aren't. I don't think the cops will. The military sure as hell won't.

Who does that leave? Some left-wing paramilitary group? Are the militant leftists going to give up their guns?

#37 | Posted by madbomber

The second ammendment says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Yet we already infringe on the right to bare arms. If we can ban rocket launchers, we can ban assault rifles. It also mentions a WELL TRAINED MILITIA. If we had a supreme court that didn't choose to just IGNORE that part of the language, we could limit guns to those in a WELL TRAINED MILITIA.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-26 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So your defense is - they're not threatening biden, they're threatening law enforcement.

#32 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-05-26 12:28 PM | REPLY

No - I'm saying this will be met with resistance and a lot of law enforcement will not comply. Read the post again.

#40 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 07:05 PM | Reply

You're going to try and shot at the US Military?
After the first few of your buddies get shot up and drop dead.
The rest of you gun carrying cowards will hand over your weaponry.
You're not better supplied than the military.

#34 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2022-05-26 12:36 PM | REPLY

So you think marshall law will be enacted to disarm Americans?

#41 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 07:06 PM | Reply

Please link to anywhere where Biden has proposed a firearm "round up" for law abiding citizens.
Because I am pretty sure that this is just a demented little fantasy of yours,

#35 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL AT 2022-05-26 01:51 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

It's not a "demented little fantasy", he's already made it clear what he'd like to see done.

Restricting certain firearms and doing away with the home builds. I didn't say that, Preznit Puddin Pop said it.

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 07:09 PM | Reply

So you think marshall law will be enacted to disarm Americans?
#41 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

It worked after Katrina...

No, nobody thinks that.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-26 07:14 PM | Reply

Restricting certain firearms and doing away with the home builds.

#42 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Sounds logical and good, and so very far away from a "round-up".

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 07:15 PM | Reply

I was talking about you.

#22 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRD

And I was talking about you.

How many AR-15's do you have? And what do you intend doing with them?

#45 | Posted by Zed at 2022-05-26 07:17 PM | Reply

This guy is a POS.

Why do republicans love AR15's so much? Nobody is saying to ban your old shotgun for goose hunting or your old lever action deer rifle. Just the semi-auto rifle people seem to always buy when they want to go on a rampage.

#46 | Posted by byrdman at 2022-05-26 07:49 PM | Reply

So you think marshall law will be enacted to disarm Americans?
#41 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Nope. I don't believe that will happen.

I don't believe Democrats will eliminate the 2nd amendment.

I don't believe gun owners will be asked to hand over their guns.

I don't believe anything will change.

I was just laughing at your scenario.

Where you country bumpkins can fight off the United States Military.

It's hilarious.

You're delusional.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 08:11 PM | Reply

It's not a "demented little fantasy", he's already made it clear what he'd like to see done.
Restricting certain firearms and doing away with the home builds. I didn't say that, Preznit Puddin Pop said it.
#42 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

He asked for citations. Not your bullshht.

Here are your own stupid words:

"No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 08:15 PM | Reply

It's not a "demented little fantasy", he's already made it clear what he'd like to see done.
Restricting certain firearms and doing away with the home builds. I didn't say that, Preznit Puddin Pop said it.
#42 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

He asked for citations. Not your bullshht.

Here are your own stupid words:

"No one worth their salt is going to go away quietly in a firearm round up."

You're up, buttercup.

Where are you getting your fake news from?

You QAnonsense moron. You gullible fool. You Rightwing pawn.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-26 08:16 PM | Reply

No - I'm saying this will be met with resistance and a lot of law enforcement will not comply. Read the post again.

#40 | Posted by lfthndthrds

What will be met with resistance? Your imaginary confiscation of all guns?

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-26 08:28 PM | Reply

Restricting certain firearms and doing away with the home builds. I didn't say that, Preznit Puddin Pop said it.

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds

How come they didn't rebel over the restrictions on rocket launchers and heavy machineguns?

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-05-26 08:29 PM | Reply

"I'm saying this will be met with resistance and a lot of law enforcement will not comply."

"met with resistance"

Law enforcement resisted going into a school to confront a lone gunman.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-26 08:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Added to the situation is the fact that most law enforcement personnel wouldn't comply. So yeah, I can smell a lot of trouble with this scenario.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Police chiefs across the country are in favor of banning assault weapons.

Lots of quotes from police chiefs at the link below:

Congress enacted the federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994. The ban expired on September 13, 2004 without any consideration or action by Congress, despite the pleas of law enforcement officials across the country. Today, our nation's police find themselves increasingly outgunned by criminals armed with sophisticated firearms and detachable, high-capacity ammuniton magazines (the manufacture of magazines holding more than 10 rounds was prohibited under the federal ban). The following timeline examines law enforcement's experience with assault weapons since the federal ban lapsed:

www.csgv.org

#53 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-27 03:20 AM | Reply

"It also mentions a WELL TRAINED MILITIA. If we had a supreme court that didn't choose to just IGNORE that part of the language, we could limit guns to those in a WELL TRAINED MILITIA."

First, it's the right to keep and bear arms than enables the well trained militia...not the other way around.

But I think it odd you feel a group like the Michigan Militia should be allowed to keep and bear arms. It seems a bit out of character for you.

#54 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-27 04:19 AM | Reply

"Police chiefs across the country are in favor of banning assault weapons."

I can't speak to Law Enforcement, but the vast majority of military members are gun owners and have never heard as single military member offer support for restricting firearms.

I think those people exist, they're just rare.

#55 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-05-27 04:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

WELL TRAINED MILITIA.

The words are a "well regulated militia"

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I've always felt the argument within the second amendment to be the differentiation between "well regulated" at the beginning vs. "shall not be infringed" at the end. There are various definitions for each word. At what point does "well-regulated" surpass "infringed" or vice versa? That, I believe, is the question.

I am both prior military (8 years) and prior law enforcement (20 years). I am a gun owner and gun user. I am all for restricting firearms.

#56 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-05-27 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Local law enforcement wasn't even a Well Regulated Militia that day!

Meanwhile, the logic for the shooter's right to bear arms is that the shooter is part of a Well Regulated Militia.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-27 12:36 PM | Reply

Simple questions to anyone willing to answer:

Why do you need an AR-15 assault rifle?

I will gladly wait.................

#58 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-05-27 02:10 PM | Reply

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