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Thursday, May 26, 2022

Time after time for more than a decade, Democrats in Congress have proposed gun restrictions and faced unyielding Republican opposition. "We have these truly horrific moments, and then it seems like very little happens because of Republicans in Congress doing the gun lobby's bidding," said Robin Lloyd, the managing director of the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

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Sandy Hook, 2012: 26 dead, including 20 children

What was proposed: A bill by Senator Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, and Senator Patrick J. Toomey, Republican of Pennsylvania, to strengthen criminal background checks on gun buyers.

How they voted: On a vote of 54 to 46 in the Senate, the measure fell short of the 60-vote threshold to overcome a filibuster. Five Democrats joined a majority of Republicans in opposing it.

Charleston, 2015: Nine dead

What was proposed: Democrats proposed closing the "Charleston loophole," which allows dealers to complete gun sales if a criminal background check takes longer than three business days.

What happened: With Republicans in control of both chambers of Congress, no hearing or vote was held.

San Bernardino, 2015: 14 dead

What was proposed: A clone of the Manchin-Toomey bill to extend criminal background checks to guns purchased online and another bill, by Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, to bar individuals on the terrorism watch list from buying firearms.

How they voted: The Senate rejected Mr. Manchin's measure on a 50-to-48 vote. Ms. Feinstein's failed 54 to 45, with one Democrat joining Republicans in opposition.

Pulse Nightclub, 2016: 49 dead

What was proposed: Four competing proposals, mirroring those considered after the San Bernardino shooting.

How they voted: All four measures failed to gain 60 votes, the threshold for advancing most legislation in the Senate, mostly along party lines.

Las Vegas shooting, 2017: 60 dead

What was proposed: A bipartisan ban on "bump stocks," which allow a semiautomatic rifle to fire hundreds of rounds per minute.

What happened: When it was revealed the gunman outfitted his firearms with bump stocks, members of both parties moved to ban the devices. But the efforts in Congress stalled. The Trump administration eventually enacted a ban through regulations.

Sutherland Springs, 2017: 26 dead

What was proposed: The Fix NICS Act, the rare bipartisan piece of gun legislation backed by the N.R.A., made modest improvements to the background checks system, requiring states and federal agencies to do a better job reporting legal and mental health records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

What happened: The measure, which gun control advocates describe as important but extremely modest, passed as part of a giant 2018 catchall spending bill. President Donald J. Trump signed it into law. The measure passed the House by a vote of 256 to 167 and the Senate 65 to 32.

Parkland, 2018: 17 dead, including 14 students

What was proposed: Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, introduced a "red flag" bill, seeking to give law enforcement the ability to restrict gun access for unstable and potentially violent people. Mr. Rubio's bill, which he has reintroduced twice, never received a floor vote.

What happened: Students took the lead pushing for action after the tragedy. But they made little headway in Congress, with Republicans in control of the Senate.

El Paso and Dayton, 2019: 32 dead

What was proposed: Democrats and a handful of Republicans proposed taking up House-passed legislation to expand criminal background checks of gun purchasers to gun shows and online sales, and to extend the time the F.B.I. has to complete background checks.

What happened:Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader at the time, insisted that he would not take up any legislation unless Mr. Trump agreed to sign it into law.

Mr. Trump backed away from his position, saying that sufficient background checks were in place and the focus should instead be on mental health. No floor vote on any legislation took place.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-05-25 11:00 PM | Reply

We don't need no stinkin' gun reform! What we need is ballistic blankets in every classroom, church, grocery store and so on:

twitter.com

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-05-26 09:01 AM | Reply

Big money interest groups spent decades and tens of millions making shootings political. Politicians and gun manufacturers will rake in more money because of this and the next episode.

#3 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-05-26 10:24 AM | Reply

The people: "90% of Americans support universal background checks."

GOP: "Oh yeah? Well ---- you."

NRA: "Good boy. Have a bag of cash."

Lather, rinse away the blood and repeat.

Blaming mental illness, bullying or video games is a red herring. Every other country in the world has those same things. What they don't have is an epidemic of school shootings.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-05-26 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What they don't have is an epidemic of school shootings."

What they don't have is the Second Amendment.

But there's a downside. As a result, wanna-be school shooters in those countries cannot readily obtain AR-15s.

This is a terrible infringement on everyone's rights, according to Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-26 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The shooting is the latest entry in the long history of gun violence in the United States. Before Tuesday, there had been at least 39 shootings in K-12 schools, colleges and universities in 2022, resulting in at least 10 deaths and 51 injuries.

While proposals to overhaul gun laws -- such a ban on assault-style weapons or high-capacity magazines -- face steep odds at the federal level, there are some areas of bipartisan agreement. Whether that's enough to break congressional gridlock is yet to be seen.

Here's what to know about what is being considered in Congress and where it stands."

www.cnn.com

In short, a minority of Republicans filibuster bi-partisan Bills that could help hinder the gun violence.

But then, that's what their NRA/Russian Masters bribe them, legally, to do.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 11:21 AM | Reply

We don't need no stinkin' gun reform! What we need is ballistic blankets in every classroom, church, grocery store and so on:

twitter.com

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

It's reported the elementary school had a "school resource officer," who are typically law enforcement.

Where was the "good guy with a gun?" This 18-year-old spent 40 minutes inside the school before anyone tried to take him out. And then it was Border Patrol, not local law enforcement.

As described by the county coroner, many of the children were so mangled from the high powered bullets and AR-15 fires that identifying them was a tedious process. Faces blown off, arms shot off, etc etc etc.

"Thoughts and prayers" aren't working. I'd say God isn't listening to the prayers of gun lovers.

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 11:22 AM | Reply

Getting tougher... you need 21+ just to get in the top 5.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-05-26 11:25 AM | Reply

A security guard isn't going to stop this, nor will metal detectors.

#38 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-05-25 11:21 AM | FLAG:
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Blah, blah, blah, Republicans want mass shootings, blah, blah, blah, republicans have blood on their hands, blah, blah. Confiscate all guns, except from the politician's body guards. It's the same old crap used for political talking points. And it will be forgotten in 2 weeks. Would universal background checks, whatever they are, have prevented this? No. Last time I bought a gun, a shot gun for grouse hunting btw, I had to fill out forms, they called up some gov agency to check on me and who knows what else they went through. Took about 3 hours before I took it home. I'm assuming if that wasn't a universal background check a more thorough one wouldn't change the outcome. How are those super strict gunlaws in Chicago working out by the way.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2022-05-26 11:49 AM | Reply

"I'm assuming if that wasn't a universal background check a more thorough one wouldn't change the outcome."

For this to make sense:
In your mind, you are unfit to own a firearm, and shouldn't have passed a background check.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-05-26 11:53 AM | Reply

Obviously people speed so we shouldn't have a speed limit since they don't work.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-05-26 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FLASHBACK:

That time when Marco Rubio said "you'd literally have to ban every assault weapon in the country" and thousands of people in the audience cheered and applauded that idea:

VIDEO: twitter.com

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 12:09 PM | Reply

Obama was the number one gun salesman in the history of the USA.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-05-26 12:22 PM | Reply

Obama was the number one gun salesman in the history of the USA.

#13 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Yeah the color of his skin definitely was a great marketing tool for the easily triggered conservative snowflake angry young man crowd.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-05-26 12:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Money, and the bizarre hobby of microdicked American males, are more important to "pro lifers" than dead children.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-26 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Republicans want mass shootings"

Thanks Captain Obvious!

The question is: Why?

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-26 12:38 PM | Reply

#16 The prospect of even modest gun reforms generates a massive opportunity for manufactured panic. Mouthbreathing microdicked gun owners are probably cutting checks to the NRA as we speak. That cash will be commingled with Russian money and donated to Republicans.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2022-05-26 12:45 PM | Reply

"Republicans want mass shootings"
Thanks Captain Obvious!
The question is: Why?

#16 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2022-05-26 12:38 PM | FLAG:

Just like Democrats want piles of dead babies.
The question is: Why?

#18 | Posted by fishpaw at 2022-05-26 12:45 PM | Reply

That cash will be commingled with Russian money and donated to Republicans.

#17 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-05-26 12:45 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Will "the big guy" get his usual 10%.

#19 | Posted by fishpaw at 2022-05-26 12:47 PM | Reply

Mass shootings at schools:

South Carolina State University.
Los Angeles Valley College.
Charles F. Brush High School.
University of Southern California.
Georgia Regents University.
Academy of Knowledge Preschool.
Benjamin Banneker High School.
D. H. Conley High School.
East English Village Preparatory Academy.
Paine College.
Georgia Gwinnett College.
John F. Kennedy High School.
Seattle Pacific University.
Reynolds High School.
Indiana State University.
Albemarle High School.
Fern Creek Traditional High School.
Langston Hughes High School.
Marysville Pilchuck High School.
Florida State University.
Miami Carol City High School.
Rogers State University.
Rosemary Anderson High School.
Wisconsin Lutheran High School.
Frederick High School.
Tenaya Middle School.
Bethune-Cookman University.

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 12:55 PM | Reply

Pershing Elementary School.
Wayne Community College.
J.B. Martin Middle School.
Southwestern Classical Academy.
Savannah State University.
Harrisburg High School.
Umpqua Community College.
Northern Arizona University.
Texas Southern University.
Tennessee State University.
Winston-Salem State University.
Mojave High School.
Lawrence Central High School.
Franklin High School.
Muskegon Heights High School.
Independence High School.
Madison High School.
Antigo High School.
University of California-Los Angeles.
Jeremiah Burke High School.
Alpine High School.
Townville Elementary School.
Vigor High School.
Linden McKinley STEM Academy.
June Jordan High School for Equity.
Union Middle School.
Mueller Park Junior High School.
West Liberty-Salem High School.
University of Washington.
King City High School.
North Park Elementary School.
North Lake College.
Freeman High School.
Mattoon High School.
Rancho Tehama Elementary School.
Aztec High School.
Wake Forest University.
Italy High School.
NET Charter High School.
Marshall County High School.
Sal Castro Middle School.
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Great Mills High School
Central Michigan University
Huffman High School
Frederick Douglass High School
Forest High School
Highland High School
Dixon High School
Santa Fe High School
Noblesville West Middle School
University of North Carolina Charlotte
STEM School Highlands Ranch
Edgewood High School
Palm Beach Central High School
Providence Career & Technical Academy
Fairley High School (school bus)
Canyon Springs High School
Dennis Intermediate School
Florida International University

#21 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 12:55 PM | Reply

Central Elementary School
Cascade Middle School
Davidson High School
Prairie View A & M University
Altascocita High School
Central Academy of Excellence
Cleveland High School
Robert E. Lee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
Holmes County, Mississippi (school bus)
Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
Wynbrooke Elementary School
UNC Charlotte
Riverview Florida (school bus)
Second Chance High School
Carman-Ainsworth High School
Williwaw Elementary School
Monroe Clark Middle School
Central Catholic High School
Jeanette High School
Eastern Hills High School
DeAnza High School
Ridgway High School
Reginald F. Lewis High School
Saugus High School
Pleasantville High School
Waukesha South High School
Oshkosh High School
Catholic Academy of New Haven
Bellaire High School
North Crowley High School
McAuliffe Elementary School
South Oak Cliff High School
Texas A&M University-Commerce
Sonora High School
Western Illinois University
Oxford High School
Robb Elementary School

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 12:56 PM | Reply

Just like Democrats want piles of dead babies.

No, that's what happened in Texas.

#23 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-05-26 12:58 PM | Reply

That time when Marco Rubio said "you'd literally have to ban every assault weapon in the country"

Then the NRA reminded him of who writes him his checks and his penis retracted into his torso and his balls were absorbed.

There was a time when the NRA came out in favor of a ban on machine guns in the 1930's, then the gun manufacturers figured out it was more profitable to sell semi-automatic weapons to mentally ill men with tiny penises.

#24 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-05-26 01:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"As described by the county coroner, many of the children were so mangled from the high powered bullets and AR-15 fires that identifying them was a tedious process. Faces blown off, arms shot off, etc etc etc."

Watch this heartbroken father describe how he learned his daughter had been killed from a classmate who came out of the classroom covered in blood and told him her best friend aka his daughter had died:

www.cnn.com

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-05-26 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#25 Some of the same gun nuts who said their own kids were traumatized by wearing masks to school don't give a damn about the kids who died or the real trauma the kids who lived after watching their teachers and classmates be massacred will have to deal with the rest of their lives. Republican politicians don't give a damn either. Talk--in the form of thoughts and prayers---is cheap, and they get too much money from the NRA.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-05-26 01:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Watch this heartbroken father describe how he learned his daughter had been killed from a classmate who came out of the classroom covered in blood and told him her best friend aka his daughter had died:

www.cnn.com

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

My wife and I saw him on TV. Made us weep too.

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-05-26 01:23 PM | Reply

(Heart)Breaking News!

Senate GOP Blocks Domestic Terrorism Bill, Gun Policy Debate

May. 26, 2022, 12:41 PM EDT

Democrats' first attempt at responding to the back-to-back mass shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde, Texas, failed in the Senate Thursday as Republicans blocked a domestic terrorism bill that would have opened debate on difficult questions surrounding hate crimes and gun safety.

"It's a chance to have a larger debate and consider amendments for gun safety legislation in general, not just for those motivated by racism - as vital as it is to do that," Mr. Schumer said, imploring Republicans to allow the debate to open. "I know that many members on the other side hold views that are different than the views on this side of the aisle. So let us move on this bill. Let us proceed."

The vote was 47-47, leaving Democrats short of the 60 needed to move forward on the bill.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-05-26 01:31 PM | Reply

In short, a minority of Republicans filibuster bi-partisan Bills that could help hinder the gun violence.

50 Democrats with 2 Republicans isnt "bi partisan".

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2022-05-26 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Texas Surgeon Fights Back Tears As She Recounts Treating School Shooting Victims

A Texas trauma surgeon choked up as she spoke about how she and her team are coping with treating victims of Tuesday's mass shooting at an Uvalde elementary school.

"It was a challenge to talk to the families. They were obviously in shock. But sometimes I think in these situations we need to stay positive," she said, choking up. "And the fact that we have the opportunity to talk to these families, we're grateful for that. That we had the opportunity to say your child made it to the hospital alive."

Liao said the hospital was prepared for a mass casualty event after responding to the Sutherland Springs church shooting in 2017, which left 26 people dead. "Sadly, we were prepared for and thought we would get more patients than we did," she said.

She said high-velocity firearm injuries like the ones victims suffered Tuesday were particularly destructive on the body, particularly to small children. "Probably the reason why most of the chidlren didn't make it to the hospital alive," she said.

#30 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-05-26 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm assuming if that wasn't a universal background check a more thorough one wouldn't change the outcome."
For this to make sense:
In your mind, you are unfit to own a firearm, and shouldn't have passed a background check.

#10 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-05-26 11:53 AM | FLAG:
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My point was I went through the NICS system which I'm assuming everyone needs to unless you are buying a gun underground which will happen no matter what laws change. And if the Texas shooter went through the same check and got his gun there was no reason in the NICS system why he shouldn't have. And btw, I don't think AR-15s have any place in this country but the bigger problem is handguns.

#31 | Posted by fishpaw at 2022-05-26 01:40 PM | Reply

#29

Technically it is.

Practically, your party has been purchased, in part, by the NRA and the gun makers they market for.

They even have your dumb arse buh-lieving that Dems want to confiscate all guns.

For which there might possibly be one or two votes in the entire Congress.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- I'm assuming everyone needs

The 18-year-old who shot and killed 19 children and two adults at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, legally bought the weapon he used, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

Salvador Ramos purchased two AR-style rifles at a local federal firearms licensee on May 17 and on May 20, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety. He also purchased 375 rounds of ammunition on May 18, according to Texas DPS.

In Texas, an individual between the ages of 18 and 21 can buy a long gun or rifle, such as an AR-15. With certain exceptions, an individual must be 21 to buy a handgun.

Carrying a gun in Texas required a permit, until September 2021, when a state law freed Texans from the permit requirement. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill last summer championed by gun rights' advocates that allowed for permitless carry.

www.cbsnews.com

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 01:48 PM | Reply

Well if the GOP is going to argue that 'everything boils down to states rights',
I suggest that in EVERY Blue State that it is possible, where Dems hold a majority,
that Common Sense gun laws are enacted ASAP...

By common sense, I mean allow people to have like one bolt action rifle, one shotgun,
and one pistol per household, but absolutely clamp down on automatics and semi-automatics...
you should be able to 'check out one to shoot' at a gun range, but they have embedded GPS chips
in the stocks, and have to be 'checked back in' at the gun counter for lockup once you leave.

You want some sort of release shooting machine guns, there you go, go to the gun range, check one
out, purchase bullets, shoot till you're tired, check it back in, and go home. Want to still fire
a gun (because you have an untreated addiction to guns) then play a video game, like millions of
responsible teens and kids and adults do already today...

end.

p.s. the GOP cannot legally argue both states rights, and Federal Rights at the same time. They
cannot get to 'cherry pick' those laws they dislike, and claim states rights protection (like abortion)
and then turn around in the same breath and say a state that cracks down on their Federal Right to own
a machine gun is violating their rights, just because they want to have an unlimited amount of guns, ammo,
and the right to go shoot 'brown people' the next time they blow a gasket, because their wife left or they
lost their job.

#34 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-05-26 02:01 PM | Reply

"Just like Democrats want piles of dead babies."

Spouting more nonsense in an effort to deflect.

Steve Bannon would be proud of how much you "flood the zone" with your nonsensical crap.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-26 02:20 PM | Reply

Will "the big guy" get his usual 10%.

#19 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

How long will you keep trolling in an attempt to deflect from another republican sponsored freedom event?

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-05-26 02:23 PM | Reply

This is just an opinion and to some extent I've lived through it at some point. I don't believe guns are the problem in these mass shootings it's the mental health and state of these children who turned 18. I believe the big problem here is the video games and the culture that surrounds it. These games today are so realistic that kids are going out and reenacting scenarios from The games. The game that the psycho liked to play was a very gruesome and detailed game which involves killing people. Some friends that I knew had download this particular game and soon deleted it because of how gruesome it was. I believe these games for years have polluted these young kids minds into thinking it's a reality. I believe we need to hold these games and who created them accountable more than gun manufacturers although I do believe we should raise the age to 21. If I'm not mistaken some years ago our elected officials officially labeled these gamers and those who play it around the clock a sickness.

#37 | Posted by penguinhead at 2022-05-26 10:26 PM | Reply

I believe the big problem here is the video games and the culture that surrounds it.

You're a ------.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-05-26 10:35 PM | Reply

I guess we only have violent realistic video games in The United States!

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-05-26 10:38 PM | Reply

"The main reason to worry about video games is a slew of studies claiming to find a link between violence in video games and real-world aggression, but countervailing studies have found no persuasive link.

The main reason to be skeptical of a causal link is that video games have spread widely around the world without driving other countries to the levels of violence in this country."

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dana.org

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2022-05-26 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Chase Strangio
@chasestrangio

"Protecting" kids from masks, from LGBTQ people, from history, from getting health care but not from getting shot and killed at school.

Got it.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-27 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eric Garcia for Congress
@EricG1247

If only children mattered to the gop members of Congress more than the money from the gun lobby.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-05-27 11:57 AM | Reply

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