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Tuesday, June 14, 2022

Bernie Sanders has decided it's wrong to run against Biden in a primary and if Biden decides to run for a second term Sanders will support him.

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Bernie is a standup guy.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-13 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#1 | POSTED BY CORKY

His reply and AOC's are just patience to see what happens in the mid-terms. Heck even SpeaksSoftly supported vehemently supported Musk and Tesla, now look at him ...

If it goes as bad as the polling indicates ... the knives will come out. Either way Biden is a lame duck at this point.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-13 10:21 PM | Reply

Apparently almost getting curb stomped by feral trumpers motivated him to not be a butt monkey for putin a third time.

....Then again he did decry the invasion of Ukraine and supports the sanctions......

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2022-06-13 10:30 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

And you're just a dumb ----.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-06-13 11:04 PM | Reply

Bernie and Biden's age combined in 2024 will be 165.

#5 | Posted by Pirate at 2022-06-14 08:04 PM | Reply

Bernie is a standup guy.

#1 | Posted by Corky

And biden can barely stand up.

If he had any sense or patriotism he'd say he's stepping aside and let dems compete to see who appeals more to the american people.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 08:16 PM | Reply

Heck even SpeaksSoftly supported vehemently supported Musk and Tesla, now look at him ...

If it goes as bad as the polling indicates ... the knives will come out. Either way Biden is a lame duck at this point.

#2 | Posted by oneironaut

Yeah gosh it's almost as if intelligent people can observe events and gather new data that changes their opinion. It's the difference between being an individual versus a brainless cult member.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 08:17 PM | Reply

"Heck even SpeaksSoftly supported vehemently supported Musk and Tesla, now look at him"

Is this an all or nothing proposition?

I support Musk's goal of 50% EVs on the road, which 8s the goal he set for when he will retire from Tesla.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-14 08:20 PM | Reply

Is this an all or nothing proposition?

You need to ask Speaks ... I would say it was LOVE then HATE .. that's how these people are though.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-14 08:30 PM | Reply

You need to ask Speaks ... I would say it was LOVE then HATE .. that's how these people are though.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut

Like most everything else, you make assumptions and you're wrong.

It was interest, that led to optimism, which led to admiration, which led to investing and purchasing.

Those led to me making a lot of money, and realizing how vastly superior electric cars are to gas cars for most usage situations.

Then he started showing that he doesn't really care about the climate if he can make some money from promoting climate roasting cryptocurrencies. Then I started getting sick of all the quality issues with my car, which coincided with customer service that got worse and worse. Then his new design ideas got worse and worse, and I started growing concerned as an investor. Then he outed himself as a covid denier who didn't care if people died in order to keep his factories open.

Then he decided that he'll openly support the climate change denier party that tried to overthrow democracy which informed me that he doesn't really care about he climate or the future of mankind at all. And anyone with any brains hates that kind of person. So i dumped my stock (as did many others) and it crashed far harder than the rest of the market, I stopped recommending teslas to other people, started warning them about all the problems, and started looking at new EV companies to invest in that aren't run by supporters of american fascism.

That's called not being a cult member. There are plenty of nerdy virgins who will never leave elon no matter what he does because they're in a cult. Same as trump's supporters.

But this thread is about bernie being too scared to say what everyone can see - biden is too old to do this job now, and will DEFINITELY be too old to do it in 6 more years.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 08:45 PM | Reply

"But this thread is about bernie being too scared to say what everyone can see - biden is too old to do this job now, and will DEFINITELY be too old to do it in 6 more years."

Well, Bernie might not want to make age an issue at this point when he is older than Biden (he will be 81 this Sept, Biden will 79 in Nov) and may want to be a senator for the next 6 years.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-06-14 08:49 PM | Reply

It's possible Biden will pick a different running mate when he runs for re-election.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2022-06-14 08:55 PM | Reply

Well, Bernie might not want to make age an issue at this point when he is older than Biden (he will be 81 this Sept, Biden will 79 in Nov) and may want to be a senator for the next 6 years.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Bernie's too old now too. But he's got more energy and mental sharpness than biden for sure.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 08:57 PM | Reply

It's possible Biden will pick a different running mate when he runs for re-election.

#12 | Posted by Tor

Yeah right. Dump a minority female? In a party that is more concerned with leader's race and gender than they are about their record or priorities?

Keep dreaming.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 08:58 PM | Reply

He could replace her with Gov. Stacy Abrams.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2022-06-14 09:18 PM | Reply

He could replace her with Gov. Stacy Abrams.

#15 | Posted by Tor

He should just not run and let stacy abrams run.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-14 09:27 PM | Reply

I look forward to seeing how well she does in Georgia.

But even if she loses in Georgia I'd have a hard time not voting for her in the primaries if she ran for President.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2022-06-14 09:32 PM | Reply

Biden's best option (would be to bow out of a 2nd term) citing
his age (and I'm a lifelong Dem). He has zero chance of reelection
thanks to the CEO's of America raising the cost of living to extreme
levels via inflation in support of the GOP. And the GOP doing their
usual, 'block anything democratic', stonewalling of any progress in
this country.

The best chance for a Dem for POTUS, is a different (younger) Dem now...

The Dems should be having a serious sit down meeting discussing how to
reign in inflation, because a politician that can't offer concrete steps
to do that, won't stand a chance in the next election....unless of course
their followers are moronic republicans who don't think anymore...

#18 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-06-15 06:27 AM | Reply

The American oligarchs have already made certain that the U.S. will never be a Representative Democracy again.

#19 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-06-15 08:33 AM | Reply

The Dems should be having a serious sit down meeting discussing how to
reign in inflation, because a politician that can't offer concrete steps
to do that, won't stand a chance in the next election....unless of course
their followers are moronic republicans who don't think anymore...

#18 | Posted by earthmuse

Dems need a politician who will say:

1. I am taking zero corporate campaign cash - corporations are not people since they can not go to jail or face real consequences for their actions
2. There is a fascist uprising in america being fueled by trump and right wing media
3. It's time to end the drug war and put money into treatment and mental health
4. It's time to stop corporations and foreign nationals from buying up all our homes
5. A shotgun, bolt action rifle, and revolver are all you need to defend your home and hunt. No one needs guns with clips.
6. Abortion should be legal but not up to right before birth.
7. Climate change is real and we can get rich from solving it.
8. Wokeness has gone too far. People shouldnt have their lives ruined for not agreeing with the new mass popular opinion. Encouraging kids to be gay or trans is wrong. Dont shame them, but let them figure it out on their own.
9. We need strict immigration control and border security. We can not support everyone in the world. Our social systems are already failing the people who are here, how can we expect them to handle more? Lead by example to other countries - show them HOW to create stable successful economy like ours so they dont need to come here to experience it.
10. Claw back the pandemic funds that went to scams and prosecute the scammers.
11. Massive funding for teachers and education - education is the way to make sure the lower classes have a road out of the lower classes.
12. Medicare for all - our medical system is great for the rich and a nightmare for everyone else.
13. Rebalance the supreme court - which doesn't represent the country, contains 2 stolen seats, and a majority of it was appointed by presidents who got fewer votes than their opponents
14. Kill the electoral college. A system where your political power depends on where you live is unfair. A system where the person with fewer votes becomes the leader is insane.
15. Your data is your property - corporations and governments can't track you without your opt in permission and financial compensation if you demand it

Not necessarily in that order.

There. An agenda that addresses the right's social concerns, and the working class' economic concerns.

But dems wouldnt get past step 1.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#20

You mean the Dems should support someone who is openly pursuing an unconstitutional agenda right out the gate?

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 02:02 PM | Reply

You mean the Dems should support someone who is openly pursuing an unconstitutional agenda right out the gate?

#21 | Posted by madbomber

what's unconstitutional? Not letting 18 year olds buy armloads of assault rifles?

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bernie assaults and batters Ms Lindsey on Fox News with policies Americans say they want....

www.youtube.com

- unconstitutional agenda

www.youtube.com

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 02:08 PM | Reply

Bernie assaults and batters Ms Lindsey on Fox News with policies Americans say they want....

www.youtube.com

#23 | Posted by Corky

God damn that man wouldve been a great president. The moment people chose hillary over him is the moment we started down this current path.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:14 PM | Reply

"A shotgun, bolt action rifle, and revolver are all you need to defend your home and hunt."

Who are you to tell anyone what they need to defend their home? And in any case, the right to keep and bear arms has little to nothing to do with defending your home. Or hunting.

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 02:20 PM | Reply

Who are you to tell anyone what they need to defend their home? And in any case, the right to keep and bear arms has little to nothing to do with defending your home. Or hunting.

#25 | Posted by madbomber

Who are you to tell anyone their kids have to risk their lives every day by going to school so that some fascist cosplayers can play commando?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:21 PM | Reply

"what's unconstitutional? Not letting 18 year olds buy armloads of assault rifles?"

Maybe.

This definitely is:

14. Kill the electoral college. A system where your political power depends on where you live is unfair. A system where the person with fewer votes becomes the leader is insane.

Most of the other issues, as one might expect from you, would resonate with voters on the far left...but probably not so much with the majority of voters.

Not saying that the Dems shouldn't be allowed to pursue this path, but it wouldn't be good for the party.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 02:22 PM | Reply

"Who are you to tell anyone their kids have to risk their lives every day by going to school so that some fascist cosplayers can play commando?"

It's not me...it's the constitution.

And the 40% of Americans who own a gun. Or lots of guns.

#28 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 02:24 PM | Reply

Maybe.

This definitely is:

14. Kill the electoral college. A system where your political power depends on where you live is unfair. A system where the person with fewer votes becomes the leader is insane.

Most of the other issues, as one might expect from you, would resonate with voters on the far left...but probably not so much with the majority of voters.

Not saying that the Dems shouldn't be allowed to pursue this path, but it wouldn't be good for the party.

#27 | Posted by madbomber

You realize the electoral college didn't always exist right stupid?

It was created to get the slave states to rejoin the union. Do you think they'll try to leave again if we take away their unfair unjustifiable advantage?

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:29 PM | Reply

"Who are you to tell anyone their kids have to risk their lives every day by going to school so that some fascist cosplayers can play commando?"

It's not me...it's the constitution.

And the 40% of Americans who own a gun. Or lots of guns.

#28 | Posted by madbomber

The constitution was written to evolve. The founders didn't know you lunatics would be selling weapons to other lunatics that would enable them to slaughter dozens of people in seconds because they can't find a woman to have sex with them.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

- It's not me...it's the constitution.

It wasn't for over 200 years:

"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered individual right to a gun.

When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum."

www.brennancenter.org

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 02:41 PM | Reply

- The moment people chose hillary over him is the moment we started down this current path.

Yeah, but see, that's how a democracy werks; the voters get to choose.

Saying they should have chosen someone else never changes that, so swing voters have to be accounted for in any decision of how to vote.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 02:45 PM | Reply

Saying they should have chosen someone else never changes that, so swing voters have to be accounted for in any decision of how to vote.

#32 | Posted by Corky

And watching bernie in that video you posted shows how much more appeal he'd have to swing voters than mrs "it's a woman's turn".

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 02:52 PM | Reply

"You realize the electoral college didn't always exist right stupid?"

Yeah. It didn't exist before the constitution.

"Do you think they'll try to leave again if we take away their unfair unjustifiable advantage?"

If you have a constitutional pathway...no. I don't think so. Simply because so many states would need to be in favor of eliminating the electoral college.

If you pursued unconstitutional means...then you're basically a worse version of Trump.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:00 PM | Reply

#33

We don't have to guess about his appeal to voters in what was a much more liberal vote in the Dem primary he lost in a landslide than a general election would be.

Bernie B-slapping Ms Lindsey and GOP policy in general was great to see, though.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

God damn that man wouldve been a great president. The moment people chose hillary over him is the moment we started down this current path.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-06-15 02:14 PM | REPLY

Amen honey Amen.

#36 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-06-15 03:02 PM | Reply

"The constitution was written to evolve."

Really?

Where did you draw that from?

Is that in the constitution? If so, who gets to "evlove" it? just whatever party happens to be in power at the time?

I mean, I don't totally disagree. That's the whole purpose of the amendment process. To allow changes when an overwhelming majority agree that change in necessary.

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:07 PM | Reply

"It wasn't for over 200 years:"

In 1789 I could have owned my own cannons.

In 1789 I could have owned my own warship. A fleet of warships if I wanted to.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:08 PM | Reply

#38

No, you couldn't. Ask Jean Lafitte.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 03:11 PM | Reply

"But there's more: gun laws were not only ubiquitous, numbering in the thousands, but also spanned every conceivable
category of regulation, from gun acquisition, sale, possession, transport, and use,
including deprivation of use through outright confiscation, to hunting and
recreational regulations, to registration and express gun bans.

For example, the
contemporary raging dispute over the regulation of some semi-automatic
weapons that began in late 1980s was actually presaged seven decades earlier,
when at least seven states banned such weapons entirely"a fact that seems to
have been unknown to modern analysts until now.

A vast newly compiled dataset
of historical gun laws reveals that the first gun grabbers (as contemporary gun
rights advocates like to label gun control proponents) were not Chablis-drinking
liberals of the 1960s, but rum-guzzling pioneers dating to the 1600s."

scholarship.law.duke.edu

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 03:15 PM | Reply

Corky.

Why do you post these trolling threads.

Bernie stating he'll vote for the 2024 Democratic candidate isn't surprising.

He's pragmatic.

As for 2016. The entire primary was a sham. Hillary was running against 3 candidates, all of whom the DNC was sure she could beat. Then they announced, from the get go, that she already had enough superdelegates to win the nomination.

Despite Bernie doing better in Michigan and Pennsylvania, and being overall better received. The DNC felt it was Hillary's turn, and announced they were choosing a candidate with 30+ years of baggage.

That went well ...

As for 2020, again, Bernie was screwed. He was winning the majority of primaries, but Covid shut that down and the DNC, again, chose whoever they wanted.

Thank god for Covid and Trump going f'n crazy, because if things were normal, Biden would have lost.

2024, if Biden is the nominee, Republicans will win.

Guaranteed.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-06-15 03:18 PM | Reply

"You realize the electoral college didn't always exist right stupid?"

Yeah. It didn't exist before the constitution.

"Do you think they'll try to leave again if we take away their unfair unjustifiable advantage?"

If you have a constitutional pathway...no. I don't think so. Simply because so many states would need to be in favor of eliminating the electoral college.

If you pursued unconstitutional means...then you're basically a worse version of Trump.

#34 | Posted by madbomber

It didn't exist before the civil war stupid.

The slave states wouldnt rejoin the union unless they were given an unfair amount of power. Do you still think they need that advantage and why?

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 03:24 PM | Reply

Tor posted this, not me.

My much more brilliant thread, lol! was neglected here:

drudge.com

- the DNC, again, chose whoever they wanted.

That's what voters do, choose... that time in a landslide.

Bernie supported Hil and now supports Biden because, as you say, he's pragmatic, not a Drama Queen Puridopian like a few of his BBros... who never actually listen to anything he says they should do.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 03:24 PM | Reply

"The constitution was written to evolve."

Really?

Where did you draw that from?

Is that in the constitution? If so, who gets to "evlove" it? just whatever party happens to be in power at the time?

I mean, I don't totally disagree. That's the whole purpose of the amendment process. To allow changes when an overwhelming majority agree that change in necessary.

#37 | Posted by madbomber

YOu just debated your self and proved yourself wrong. What an idiot.

#44 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 03:24 PM | Reply

Bernie supported Hil and now supports Biden because, as you say, he's pragmatic, not a Drama Queen Puridopian like a few of his BBros... who never actually listen to anything he says they should do.

#43 | Posted by Corky

Bernie supported himself OVER hillary. Only supported hillary when the choice was her or a fascist con man. As anyone with a brain would.

But swing voters dont have big brains. And if dems want to win, they better find more candidates like bernie who appeal to them and less like biden and clinton who dont.

Dems are doomed because they refuse to learn anything from their mistakes. The have no courage to lead.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 03:40 PM | Reply

"It didn't exist before the civil war stupid."

Really?

I didn't know that.

Do you have like a link or something? I'd like to know more.

#46 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:50 PM | Reply

That's trolling. I'm sorry. I shouldn't take advantage of the stupid.

You could maybe, like google it or something...y'know. Next time. Before you write something stupid.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:52 PM | Reply

"YOu just debated your self and proved yourself wrong. What an idiot."

Did I prove myself wrong on the second part or the first part?

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:53 PM | Reply

"Dems are doomed because they refuse to learn anything from their mistakes. The have no courage to lead."

Y'mean they lack the courage to behave like left-wing versions of Trump?

#49 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-15 03:54 PM | Reply

- if dems want to win, they better find more candidates like bernie who appeal to them and less like biden and clinton who dont.

Both of whom won their primaries.

Perhaps BBros should listen to Bernie instead of just talking about listening to Bernie.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 04:19 PM | Reply

This is the top story on the DR, really groundbreaking stuff.

#51 | Posted by LEGALLYDORKY at 2022-06-15 04:36 PM | Reply

Who are you to tell anyone what they need to defend their home? And in any case, the right to keep and bear arms has little to nothing to do with defending your home. Or hunting.
#25 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

As current understood via Heller, it has more to do with hunting and defending your home, than it does with a Well-Regulated Militia.

And the answer to your question is: Antonio Scalia. He told us. He says that's what the Founders meant.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-15 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It didn't exist before the civil war stupid."

Really?

I didn't know that.

Do you have like a link or something? I'd like to know more.

#46 | Posted by madbomber

You were right the electoral college existed before the civil war:
"Behind Madison's statement were the stark facts: The populations in the North and South were approximately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in -------. Because of its considerable, nonvoting slave population, that region would have less clout under a popular-vote system. The ultimate solution was an indirect method of choosing the president, one that could leverage the three-fifths compromise, the Faustian bargain they'd already made to determine how congressional seats would be apportioned. With about 93 percent of the country's slaves toiling in just five southern states, that region was the undoubted beneficiary of the compromise, increasing the size of the South's congressional delegation by 42 percent. When the time came to agree on a system for choosing the president, it was all too easy for the delegates to resort to the three-fifths compromise as the foundation. The peculiar system that emerged was the Electoral College."

And I was right that it was a system created to take power away from certain people and give others undeserved power. Do you think that system is still relevent in america today?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 05:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Dems are doomed because they refuse to learn anything from their mistakes. The have no courage to lead."

Y'mean they lack the courage to behave like left-wing versions of Trump?

#49 | Posted by madbomber

You dont have to be a criminal con man in order to be a strong leader. Look at bernie.

Only your cult is obsessed with a criminal con man who they wont abandon even after he attempted to overthrow democracy.

#54 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 05:20 PM | Reply

Both of whom won their primaries.

Perhaps BBros should listen to Bernie instead of just talking about listening to Bernie.

#50 | Posted by Corky

Because dems are obsessed with identity politics instead of picking someone who will be a strong inspirational leader and address our real problems.

You always say "listen to bernie" whenever he says a sellout dem is worse than a repub, but whenever he's on the ballot or endorsing a progressive, you say they can't win.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 05:22 PM | Reply

#55

None of that really makes sense. Many left of center voters would have preferred Bernie's policies, I know I would had they been better prepared, but more so had they been a bit stealthier so as not to scare off the people that really made the difference; one vote in every district in WS.

"Nobody's noticed, but she's running on an ambitious plan to remake the American social compact."

www.vox.com

Their policy goals were, and are, quite similar. One just demanded justice now, which is fine if you think you get it.

The other followed an incremental approach that had a better chance of winning the General Election than being pummeled as "SOCIALISTS!", and that came within a fraction of a fraction of a percent of winning.

Had it not been for week of the Election "revelations about Clinton!" it would possibly have werked.

Despite all the people that think that "in your face" is the only answer.

When it sounds more like the other side.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-15 05:39 PM | Reply

"Nobody's noticed, but she's running on an ambitious plan to remake the American social compact."

www.vox.com

Their policy goals were, and are, quite similar. One just demanded justice now, which is fine if you think you get it.

#56 | Posted by Corky

One of them was on wall street's payroll and the other wasn't. People aren't stupid enough to think you'll reform something that your owners benefit from.

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-15 07:06 PM | Reply

Corky is still selling that Hillary garbage. I'm so not surprised in the least.

#58 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-06-15 07:15 PM | Reply

2024 is a lost cause if Biden is on the top of the ticket for the Dems. I don't know anybody that thinks he is doing a good job. He doesn't inspire young people. There has to be people in the party below 70 that can get people motivated to vote.

#59 | Posted by byrdman at 2022-06-15 08:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"And the answer to your question is: Antonio Scalia. He told us. He says that's what the Founders meant."

Maybe he is talking to them from beyond the grave then, because I see no mention of hunting at all in the 2nd amendment. Of course, at the time of the drafting of the constitution, there wouldn't have even been a thought of not being allowed to hunt. It's how you stayed fed in those days.

#60 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-16 01:02 AM | Reply

"And I was right that it was a system created to take power away from certain people and give others undeserved power. Do you think that system is still relevent in america today?"

100%.

It's one of the pillars of republicanism-the notion of the states as equal partners. Getting rid of it would not be unlike getting rid of the Senate, which if I recall correctly, you also favor because it absolutely normalizes legislative power between states. If you do that, then you no longer have a republic. You no longer have states in any meaningful way. You're left with a central government with absolute authority.

In my mind, the US should be more like Germany, where the states have legislative supremacy. The German constitution was written that way to prevent the rise of another Hitler. The US should take heed. And if you're concerned about an authoritarian dictatorship, so should you.

#61 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-16 01:08 AM | Reply

"You dont have to be a criminal con man in order to be a strong leader. Look at bernie."

Let's look at Bernie. He might be the most ineffective Senator...maybe ever.

That line, like similar ones offered by former Vice President Joe Biden, was meant to undercut the notion that Sanders can deliver the big changes he's promising. And, for the purposes of those making the accusation, it has the virtue of being statistically true. Of the 422 bills for which Sanders has been the lead sponsor during his nearly 30 years in Congress, only three have become law, according to Congress.gov. Two of them were perfunctory bills to name post offices.

"Sen. Sanders is not a team player," one former lawmaker told The Daily Beast. "He is an ideologue, he is rigid, he is inflexible"he has a point of view that is locked down, and it's not going to change; he's not interested in compromise." The Senate, said a former colleague of Sanders', "is a place where almost everything is done with others. If you're going to be effective and get things done, you have to work with others. That's not Sen. Sanders' typical style."

www.thedailybeast.com

422 bills...three passed.

#62 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-16 01:11 AM | Reply

"Only your cult is obsessed with a criminal con man who they wont abandon even after he attempted to overthrow democracy."

My cult?

I guess my cult must be everyone who isn't in your cult?

#63 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-16 01:12 AM | Reply

Bernie Sanders is a wuss.

He had his chance to really go after Biden's weaknesses, particularly his cognitive issues, but didn't do so. He deserved to lose because he was unwilling to do what was necessary in order to win.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-16 01:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

There has to be people in the party below 70 that can get people motivated to vote.

#59 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN AT 2022-06-15 08:11 PM | FLAG:

Age doesn't matter. #1 concern is inflation, and there's no plans other than spend more money, causing more inflation. They have nothing but wedge issues to campaign on and it's not the midterm for those.

#65 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-06-16 09:24 AM | Reply

He should just not run and let stacy abrams run.

#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Agreed. Joe Biden was the president we needed to restore dignity, decorum, morality, integrity, and sanity to the office and get us back on track with the world. As I progress through middle age myself, I'd like to think that 80-something isn't too old to still be effective, but I do believe someone else should be the 2024 D candidate. Stacy Abrams could be a good one.

#66 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-06-16 12:32 PM | Reply

1. I am taking zero corporate campaign cash - corporations are not people since they can not go to jail or face real consequences for their actions
2. There is a fascist uprising in america being fueled by trump and right wing media
3. It's time to end the drug war and put money into treatment and mental health
4. It's time to stop corporations and foreign nationals from buying up all our homes
5. A shotgun, bolt action rifle, and revolver are all you need to defend your home and hunt. No one needs guns with clips.
6. Abortion should be legal but not up to right before birth.
7. Climate change is real and we can get rich from solving it.
8. Wokeness has gone too far. People shouldnt have their lives ruined for not agreeing with the new mass popular opinion. Encouraging kids to be gay or trans is wrong. Dont shame them, but let them figure it out on their own.
9. We need strict immigration control and border security. We can not support everyone in the world. Our social systems are already failing the people who are here, how can we expect them to handle more? Lead by example to other countries - show them HOW to create stable successful economy like ours so they dont need to come here to experience it.
10. Claw back the pandemic funds that went to scams and prosecute the scammers.
11. Massive funding for teachers and education - education is the way to make sure the lower classes have a road out of the lower classes.
12. Medicare for all - our medical system is great for the rich and a nightmare for everyone else.
13. Rebalance the supreme court - which doesn't represent the country, contains 2 stolen seats, and a majority of it was appointed by presidents who got fewer votes than their opponents
14. Kill the electoral college. A system where your political power depends on where you live is unfair. A system where the person with fewer votes becomes the leader is insane.
15. Your data is your property - corporations and governments can't track you without your opt in permission and financial compensation if you demand it

#20 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Worth reposting. Run on that. You've got my vote.

#67 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-06-16 12:38 PM | Reply

It's one of the pillars of republicanism-the notion of the states as equal partners. Getting rid of it would not be unlike getting rid of the Senate, which if I recall correctly, you also favor because it absolutely normalizes legislative power between states. If you do that, then you no longer have a republic. You no longer have states in any meaningful way. You're left with a central government with absolute authority.

#61 | Posted by madbomber

Translation - if you make the system fair, my minority group will no longer be able to be in control!

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-16 01:14 PM | Reply

"Only your cult is obsessed with a criminal con man who they wont abandon even after he attempted to overthrow democracy."

My cult?

I guess my cult must be everyone who isn't in your cult?

#63 | Posted by madbomber

I dont have a cult. I oppose one. The one you spend all day defending and deflecting for.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-16 01:15 PM | Reply

Oh heeeellllllll no!

Time for gen ex to get off their lazy assets

#70 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-06-16 02:40 PM | Reply

Funny just reading the headline.

#71 | Posted by fishpaw at 2022-06-16 05:40 PM | Reply

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