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Wednesday, June 15, 2022

Fox News political pundit Brit Hume argued Tuesday that many in the GOP may appreciate any damage the House Jan. 6 committee is able to inflict on former President Trump.

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And I think some Democrats are thinking the same thing and that might be why some of them don't want the Jan 6 commission to return a criminal referral against Trump.

#1 | Posted by rosemountbomber at 2022-06-15 08:26 PM | Reply

Yes, it would be better if all the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capital did was hold their public hearings so that the American people hears it with their own ears and then have the final written report published prior to the Fall elections, and then turn everything over to the Justice Department. They should also make the material available to anyone or any organization who would then have the option to bring civil suits against Trump and members of his team who tried to overturn the election. There's also that matter of the $250 million that Trump collecting from his small-dollar donors for what's now being seen as nothing more than a scam to collect money for Trump and the Trump family and friends. Some hotshot class-action law firm should try contacting some of these people who donated and perhaps get a judgement against Trump similar to what happened when the state of New York shut down the Trump University and got $25 million back for people who felt that they had been bilked.

Going after Trump from a criminal angle would be less likely to ruin him than going after his money. Losing his wealth would hurt him more than anything else that could happen to him.

OCU

#2 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-06-15 10:53 PM | Reply

The 1/6 Commission cannot return criminal referrals against anybody for a crime other than contempt of Congress; that's what Benny Thompson was talking about. They can and are presenting a fantastic case built by former federal prosecutors; now, it's up to DOJ to pick up the ball and plunge it across the goal line.

#3 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2022-06-15 11:32 PM | Reply

if the committee has legal authority to make criminal referrals, anything less than using its full authority, is half-step, a failure.

#4 | Posted by ichiro at 2022-06-16 12:46 AM | Reply

I think GUNSLINGER is right. They don't have the authority to make criminal referrals to the DOJ other than for Contempt of Congress. Their job is to craft legislation to right a wrong . . . not act in the stead of the FBI. These highly unusual circumstances have led them down highly unusual paths for which they owe the public a thorough insight. But the fact still remains, only the DOJ has the authority to decide whom and for what reason they chose to prosecute.

Whether by overate or covert tactics, I think we all know the real agenda is to surgically cut the cancer out of our political system before it metathesizes to incurable. To do that, the DOJ, unlike the criminal element they're after, doesn't have the luxury of going outside the very laws they're sworn to defend.

I, too, wish we could just round them all up, based on what we already know, and throw the perps into a pen to be sorted out later. I wonder sometimes, would it really hurt America that bad to act like one of those third world political cesspool, just this once? For the good of the country? Would our reputation as a shinning city on the hill survive? Or would such hypocrisy be used by our enemies against us? Would America ever be trusted again to uphold the tenants of democracy?

The devil inside me says, who gives a crap. But my better and wiser side says, I do.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-06-16 05:45 AM | Reply

The Committee can absolutely make a criminal referral to the DOJ.

#6 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-06-16 10:05 AM | Reply

#6

They can send a letter asking DOJ to look into it. That's really all they can do.

Should they? Of course. And it'll carry a bit more weight than you or me sending them a letter. But DOJ can just ignore them if they want.

#3

A criminal referral for contempt is essentially the same thing as a criminal referral from congress for any other crime - a letter asking DOJ to please do something. DOJ can ignore contempt too, as they have done for a few people the committee referred.

Congress in theory has another power with contempt, but they've refused to use it for almost a century. The inherent contempt power allows them to have someone picked up, held, and brought before the committee, they don't have to go through DOJ for that. But they haven't and won't.

#7 | Posted by DarkVader at 2022-06-16 10:16 AM | Reply

#5

We're already there. This country is a third world political cesspool. The precedent has been set. Legal loopholes have been utilized. There is no going back. The opportunists have won. There will never be a free and fair election in this country again, if there really ever was one. Elections will always be disputed no matter if the outcome is plainly obvious. It's over.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-06-16 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2: OCU

Agreed! Put everything they have in the public domain where anyone that wants it can get it. Republicans, once they get the chance, will bury it.

#9 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-06-16 10:57 AM | Reply

#8 that's only bad when a Republican does it.

#10 | Posted by LEGALLYDORKY at 2022-06-16 12:29 PM | Reply

They're the only ones that do it, water-head.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-06-16 02:28 PM | Reply

#8 that's only bad when a Republican does it.

#10 | Posted by LEGALLYDORKY

Republicans are the only ones doing it.

How come you have to cheat to win elections? Not enough people willing to vote for tax cuts for the rich?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-16 02:40 PM | Reply

What a one-sided opinion from a myopic talking head. The committee is there to solve an assault on the gov and the election process, not do favors for a party.

#13 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-06-16 03:17 PM | Reply

It appears that the someone at the DOJ, perhaps the AG himself, may have read my original post above ;-) and has now made a formal request, in writing, that the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capital provide them with ALL of material and transcripts that they have in their possession. It's going to be interesting as this moves forward as I have a feeling that Attorney General Merrick Garland is going to get much more vocal in terms of the DOJ taking its responsibilities very seriously and that they will pursue this to wherever it might lead.

OCU

#14 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-06-16 03:59 PM | Reply

It appears that the someone at the DOJ, perhaps the AG himself, may have read my original post above ;-) and has now made a formal request, in writing, that the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capital provide them with ALL of material and transcripts that they have in their possession. It's going to be interesting as this moves forward as I have a feeling that Attorney General Merrick Garland is going to get much more vocal in terms of the DOJ taking its responsibilities very seriously and that they will pursue this to wherever it might lead.

OCU

#14 | Posted by OCUser

Its inexusable that he didn't start his own investigation a year and a half ago. He didn't need to wait for congress.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-16 04:11 PM | Reply

I don't really care what the GOP thinks about this. The Republican Party is so tainted by its inexorable connection to the purulent abscess known as Donald Trump that it should be dissolved.

What matters is honesty and integrity, and it's beyond obvious that Trump and his cult are incapable of crossing paths with either. Since there is zero chance that we will convince this flagrantly undemocratic claque to acknowledge the truth or change its ways, it is incumbent on the rest of American leadership to do it the hard way and pursue criminal prosecutions.

#16 | Posted by cbob at 2022-06-16 06:47 PM | Reply

The 1/6 Commission cannot return criminal referrals against anybody for a crime other than contempt of Congress; that's what Benny Thompson was talking about. They can and are presenting a fantastic case built by former federal prosecutors; now, it's up to DOJ to pick up the ball and plunge it across the goal line.

#3 | Posted by _Gunslinger

The DOJ has requested all Jan. 6 deposition transcripts. We won't know if Trump is federally charged until he's indicted. GA may give us some state surprises in that regard.

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-06-17 04:08 AM | Reply

the DOJ ... has now made a formal request, in writing, that the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capital provide them with ALL of material and transcripts that they have in their possession

This only confirmed my worst fears. Why hasn't DOJ already interviewed all of these people?

The tone of their letter suggests a rift with the Commission and reads more like an attempt to lay ground for a blame game later on than any serious attempt to garner work product. If DOJ were serious about using the Commission's work, why don't they quietly have a liaison rather than publicly scrapping with them?

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2022-06-17 07:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Republican Party is a terrorist organization.

#19 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-06-17 07:32 AM | Reply

This article suggests the problem could be with people DOJ has already interviewed:

WHY JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE TRANSCRIPTS ARE URGENT: PROUD BOY JEREMY BERTINO

www.emptywheel.net

In general, Wheeler thinks that DOJ has been doing more work with regard to January 6th than many others do. This is above my paygrade, so I don't know if her assumptions are valid or merely wishful thinking on her part.

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-06-17 08:24 AM | Reply

In general, Wheeler thinks that DOJ has been doing more work with regard to January 6th than many others do. This is above my paygrade, so I don't know if her assumptions are valid or merely wishful thinking on her part.

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

The DOJ has only been focusing on the foot soldiers while ignoring the larger coup attempt. Pathetic. Biden is a deluded old man who picked a blind fool as AG.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-17 12:23 PM | Reply

It's being reported that the DOJ document request is because of a request from lawyers for the insurrectionists. Let them wait until the Jan 6 committee is ready to turn it over.

#22 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-06-17 01:27 PM | Reply

Speaksoftly is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

#23 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-06-17 03:19 PM | Reply

Speaksoftly is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

#23 | Posted by RJSquirrel

When your cult is caught on video in front of the world trying to overthrow democracy, what else can you do besides call names?

Why can't your cult turn against trump even after he tried to overthrow the government? What is it about him that you love more than you love america?

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-17 03:24 PM | Reply

#22 There are court mandated discovery deadlines. See link in #20.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-06-17 04:06 PM | Reply

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