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Monday, June 20, 2022

When President Donald Trump's commissioner of Customs and Border Protection toured a stretch of the new 30-foot high border wall here in [El Paso, TX] August 2020, he told the local newspaper that its steel beams were "impressive." [A]s of Friday morning, illegal border crossings are at an all-time high and Border Patrol agents and local paramedics have responded to 229 injuries since October 2021, including some fatalities, as migrants scale the Mexican side of the steel barrier and then fall 30 feet onto U.S. soil.

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On a ride along with Border Patrol agents, NBC News saw the aftermath of one of the most recent injuries, a teenage girl who agents say fell from the top of the wall and was found alone at the bottom. She struggled to catch her breath and writhed in pain as paramedics secured her to a stretcher and loaded her into an ambulance.

"This little girl was exploited by a smuggler," Agent Valeria Morales said. "She was forced to scale the border barrier and she fell."

Morales said it's a common scene: Smugglers build ladders that can scale the fence and force migrants to the top, often telling them they can scale the fence on the way down. But many lack the upper body strength to do it or are not able to hold on to the hot steel posts.

Broken ankles, broken legs and even brain and spinal injuries are common, Morales said.
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This ongoing nightmare is one example of how a President's cruel nature not only brings harm to victims and shame to America while he is in office but often continues long after he's gone.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-19 09:42 PM | Reply

The cruelty is the point. - Trumpers everywhere

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-19 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Dr OZ and Tump Corp and others entice them with the promise of employment under the table to encourage them to make the journey.. www.businessinsider.com

#3 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-06-20 12:05 AM | Reply

Trumpers wanted machine gun nests and mines along the border.

I don't think migrants falling off a wall is going to raise any sympathy.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2022-06-20 02:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 | Posted by jpw

According to his Sec Def, Trump is reported to have suggested bombing Mexico.

Trump wanted to 'quietly' bomb Mexico, seriously, ex-Defense Secretary Mark Esper recounts

theweek.com

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-06-20 05:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This just shows me how ill informed the average liberal is, much like being economically illiterate, they have no idea what's going on.

Biden promised to halt building Trump's border wall " but new construction has begun
www.npr.org

Nothing but a bunch of syncopated partisan hacks.

#OpenBorders!

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-20 09:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Having any kind of physical barrier to demarcate the border of a sovereign nation-state is inherently racist and cruel.

#7 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-06-20 10:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Note to self:

raise hight of fence and number of temp worker permits.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2022-06-20 10:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Re 6

This just shows me how ill informed and simpleminded the average Trumper is.

Halting and reversing Trumpy's insane immigration policies and wanting a "fair and humane" system for immigration in the country does not equal "open borders".

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-06-20 11:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Juan the Meskin Sat on the Wall

Juan the Meskin Had a Great Fall

So the Vegetable's Bureaucrats Let Him Come In

"Check the ballot this way, new Brown Citizen!"

#10 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-06-20 11:46 AM | Reply

Juan the Mexican has a great fall off Trump's wall ... and ends up in an American hospital receiving care that we taxpayers fund! How is that supposed to be a benefit to our national security when coyotes not only take exorbitant fees from desperate migrants, they literally throw them over a 30 foot wall to whatever fate awaits them, be it death, broken bones, or traumatic brain injuries?

So again, the wall isn't securing this nation, it's actively causing unnecessary harm to other humans in the illusion of a security that cannot exist as long as desperate, determined people will throw their lives away to enter this country because staying where they are is even worse in their own minds.

The wall is an obstacle, not an impenetrable, undefeatable barrier. But it appears to make people like Mao incredibly stupid and callous while they ignore this nation's lack of comprehensive immigration reform that shouldn't involve the death and injury to many seeking entrance to America while thousands more evade or defeat the fence and continue to enter anyway.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 05:52 PM | Reply

"The wall is an obstacle, not an impenetrable, undefeatable barrier."

废话。 Nobody actually believes that it would be an impenetrable or undefeatable. But at least it's a demonstrable effort to address an issue people are concerned about, as opposed to what you're saying which comes across as there should be no physical deterrents against smugglers or invaders, i.e. open borders.

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-20 07:40 PM | Reply

9 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I am not a Trumper, I am an open borders proponent.

Biden still treating immigrants in humane, the press just isn't showing it

Donner boy is a partisan hack.

#openborders

#13 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-20 07:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But at least it's a demonstrable effort to address an issue people are concerned about, as opposed to what you're saying which comes across as there should be no physical deterrents against smugglers or invaders, i.e. open borders.

If that's what you think, then you don't think at all.

Why is it if anyone doesn't think building walls that can be overcome by inexpensive tools, ladders or by tunneling under them are a horrible waste of money somehow equates to not wanting any border security whatsoever? What lazy-azz thinking Sentinel, but oh so expected of your narrow mind.

The article is about the horrific costs to both humans and taxpayers due to a wall whose very design brings harm or death to those who are determined not to let it stop them. And since record numbers still attempt entry into America, it would seem these walls have failed in their intended purpose of deterrence. What next, 50-foot walls or even higher?

Personally, I'm all for using modern technology that allows the BP to monitor the border with cameras and drones and then capture the migrants than building walls - intentionally causing them harm due to the greed of coyotes who could care less whether they arrive alive or dead after pocketing every cent these driven people have.

But then, I'm a human, not a cretin like you.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 08:02 PM | Reply

... Why is it if anyone doesn't think building walls that can be overcome by inexpensive tools, ladders or by tunneling under them - a horrible waste of money - somehow equates to not wanting any border security whatsoever? ...

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 08:13 PM | Reply

"I am an open borders proponent."

Tell us you're a moron without using those specific words.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-20 08:18 PM | Reply

Why is it if anyone doesn't think building walls that can be overcome by inexpensive tools, ladders or by tunneling under them are a horrible waste of money somehow equates to not wanting any border security whatsoever? What lazy-azz thinking Sentinel, but oh so expected of your narrow mind.

Because they stopped immigrants in California, stopped it dead.

Hate ------- racist Californias Walls.

Back to Biden

Kids at the border: 2,600 highest number Trump, 12,000 currently under Biden."

Funny how all of a sudden there's no more photo ops, no more nonstop media coverage, and no more crisis at the border now that the numbers are at all time highs and a DEMOCRAT administration is in control," said a post widely shared on Facebook. "Oh, and you're a racist if you point that out. See how it works?"
www.statesman.com

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-20 08:19 PM | Reply

"they stopped immigrants in California"

Really? Stopped?!?

That would be news to A LOT of Californians. Are you playing Humpty Dumpty with definitions?

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-20 08:21 PM | Reply

Walls do work at stopping large flows, tear them down i say.

Open borders is the way to go, from what do we need security?

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-20 08:22 PM | Reply

"Walls do work at stopping large flows"

Are those goalposts heavier to move than the walls? Asking for a friend.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-20 08:23 PM | Reply

Open borders is the way to go, from what do we need security?

#19 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

The only ones actually calling for "open borders" that I know of are hateful propagandists such as yourself.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-06-20 08:30 PM | Reply

"But then, I'm a human, not a cretin like you."

If that's what you think, then you don't think at all.

Whether you realize it or not, you implied that you're against physical barriers when you said you'd rather have surveillance "than building walls".

You're the one setting up a false either-or choice here. There are valid criticisms that can be made about the shortcomings of physical barriers, but there's just as many shortcomings in the alternative you presented. I've often seen the same spurious argument you made about the wall applied to the border police, that they're not a perfect deterrent and people have gotten hurt in their interactions with them, so let's do away with them!

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-20 09:02 PM | Reply

I don't have any sympathy for people who scale the wall, fall and get hurt. Nobody forced them to scale the wall. We have regular points of entry into this country for a reason.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-20 09:07 PM | Reply

"Are those goalposts heavier to move than the walls? Asking for a friend."

That's brilliant. When someone doesn't agree with the straw man position that was assigned to them, accuse them of moving the goal posts. I can tell you're a master de bater.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-20 09:08 PM | Reply

"I don't have any sympathy for people who scale the wall, fall and get hurt."

We used to call these Darwin Awards.

#25 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-20 09:09 PM | Reply

#24
If you didn't understand the post, just admit it.

If you couldn't see goalposts were moved, you're a moron. Are you a moron?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-20 09:12 PM | Reply

#26 illustrates perfectly why you keep lost to a dbag like Trump and are in danger of losing again. "If you can't see what we're saying the same way we do, you're a ------!"

#27 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-20 09:27 PM | Reply

Whether you realize it or not, you implied that you're against physical barriers when you said you'd rather have surveillance "than building walls".

Reread again as much as you need to comprehend a simple concept. Nowhere at any time did I say I was against walls that already exist but for the 30 foot monstrosities that this thread is about! I would not build another inch of wall if the alternative were to erect a monitoring AND rapid response system which is more effective than unguarded or un-monitored walls.

The "smarter" wall: How drones, sensors, and AI are patrolling the border

"In this 21st century, we have challenges, and I think we can use 21st-century solutions instead of a 14th-century solution called the wall," said Cuellar in an interview with Recode. "Even if you put in a fence, bad guys' can use drones to carry drugs over that fence. So we have to be more flexible, more agile."

"We can literally do technology for pennies on the dollar as compared to a physical wall," said Tester, a member of the influential Senate Appropriations Committee. Tester had recently come back from a trip to the border, where he said he talked to families who lived and farmed there and were worried about seeing their businesses destroyed by a physical barrier that could divide their land.

"This is about truly securing the southern border without ripping farms apart, without creating a zone that people won't be able to utilize," he said.

On the Republican side, Rep. Hurd - whose district includes a large area of the Texas southern border, and who is one of the few members of Congress with a computer science degree - has been one of the strongest advocates for a technological wall.

"Every mile of the border patrol is different " radar makes sense in one place, lidar may make sense in another, a high-resolution camera may make sense in some," said Hurd. "We should be agnostic as to what the sensor is, but we should be using the one that makes the most sense and the one that is the cheapest."

www.vox.com

I guess it's easy to understand why you're so ignorant of smart walls and advocate "14th Century" methods of deterrence. Ain't nothing smart about you other than your mouth.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 09:28 PM | Reply

Generally speaking, most people don't respond well to condescension.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-20 09:29 PM | Reply

#28. None of those things act as a deterrent and unless we have sufficient manpower with a mandate to immediately send illegal aliens back across the border than a technological wall is powerless.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-20 09:33 PM | Reply

#30

Can't read either -------, can you?

I would not build another inch of wall if the alternative were to erect a monitoring AND rapid response system which is more effective than unguarded or un-monitored walls.

Just stop responding to my posts. It's obvious you don't have the ability to comprehend what I'm saying. This is an AB conversation, C your way out of it, please.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 09:36 PM | Reply

Try being less verbose.

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-20 09:41 PM | Reply

#32

Try using better reading comprehension skills and stop showing your lack of erudition.

Although verbose was nice. I guess in your world 3 lines of my own words fits that definition. It doesn't fit mine. I use enough words to get my point across, even though said words fly right past your beady eyes and over your pointy head.

Only you criticize someone for something they already clearly articulated. Brilliant!

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 09:48 PM | Reply

Most of your posts are way longer than they need to be. Reading a post shouldn't require a highlighter.

When you say "rapid response system" what exactly does that mean?

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-20 10:08 PM | Reply

erect a monitoring AND rapid response system which is more effective than unguarded or un-monitored walls.

No it's not. What do you think BP in Texas is doing now, on horses with whips

Again California is the most walled State, its illegal immigration is paltry compared rest of the border.

Tear down the walls, no need for the security, why?? What's it stopping? People around the world trade in USD.

Why can't they live here?

#OpenBorders

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-06-20 10:14 PM | Reply

When you say "rapid response system" what exactly does that mean?

Since we're talking about illegal border crossings and the use of electronic monitoring of the border, what role do YOU think a "rapid response system" would play in such a scenario? Who would be "responding" if not for human agents to interdict illegal crossers and contraband?

If less money was spent on physical walls and more spent on beefing up human response capabilities in conjunction with the coordinated use of electronic surveillance methods, far more could be stopped or interdicted than we're seeing with over-reliance on walls. And migrants wouldn't die or occupy US hospitals at the taxpayers' expense due to falling off 30 foot fences.

Why are border crossings at all-time highs if walls were actually effective in deterring them?

#36 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-20 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why are border crossings at all-time highs if walls were actually effective in deterring them?

Because a major political party and its financiers are encouraging indigent hordes to flood the country so that a permanent underclass can be politically groomed to keep them in power.

It's kinda starting to backfire, though.

#37 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-06-21 12:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Physical walls do work. They do deter. But they work best in flat country without much topography.

The "virtual wall" Rep. Hurd talks about is more practicable in the country I grew up in 100+ hundred miles downstream of El Paso. It's there now. Motion Sensors, the TARS balloon, FLIR, etc...

Nobody really crosses back home anymore, though. It's too rough and remote. They know all they have to do is show up in Piedras or Acuna, get across, and they get a bus ride.

These people aren't stupid. They're being told where to go, and they go accordingly.

#38 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-06-21 12:22 AM | Reply

An exception to above occurred last September when that -------- developed in Del Rio with like 15,000 illegals camped there. It was a media PR disaster for Brandon's administration and all the resources got focused on that sector.

Right on cue and all the sudden we got a ------- of traffic 200 miles west of there because they knew the easy routes weren't open anymore. A lot of people died.

This ain't the old days where good, country Meskins are coming over to work on ranches.

These are indigent, ignorant wretches from the slums of Tegucigalpa and San Salvador. They don't know that a windmill or clump of taller trees means water---and that a cow trail will take you to one if you just follow it. They're basically the equivalent of American white urban leftists---but without money. They have zero common sense or ability to survive and depend solely upon an authority figure to tell them what to do and how to react to any given situation.

Last year one of them, a young dude about 20, was left behind at the unoccupied house my great-grandmother and her boys were raised in at the north end of the ranch. He was "too tired" to go on, he said. After a few hours he got bored and lit the house on fire and destroyed it because "he wanted somebody to find him".

This is all done on purpose as a result of public policy.

People (hispanics included) are ------- sick of it.

#39 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-06-21 12:55 AM | Reply

#39 The amount of human, sex and drug trafficking that is going on with illegal immigration in the present is staggering. Such a human tragedy.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 01:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Who would be "responding" if not for human agents to interdict illegal crossers and contraband?"

In other words, LEOs...

#41 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-21 07:32 AM | Reply

"Why are border crossings at all-time highs if walls were actually effective in deterring them?"

Crime statistics go up and down all the time. If you just look at raw numbers, they'll likely go up because population is always increasing.

If you're having a crime wave, the logical response is to beef up both physical barriers and surveillance.

#42 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-21 07:45 AM | Reply

The only ones actually calling for "open borders" that I know of are hateful propagandists such as yourself.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-06-20 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anything other than a DMZ along the border with land mines, machine gun nests to mow down all attempting to cross and electrified moats is "open borders" to the Trumpturds.

They cry about the CBP catching and seizing drugs at the border as examples of how Biden is opening the borders even though the detaining and seizing is the exact opposite of that. They use the phrase so much it is white noise now.

#43 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-21 11:17 AM | Reply

#43

Along with the wholly ignorant trope that migrants are rushing across the southern US border in order to cast ballots for Democratic candidates even though 1) It's impossible for non-citizens to vote in federal elections since proof of citizenship is mandatory to even register; 2) People trying to escape poverty and remain inside the US would hardly risk being deported for illegally involving themselves in domestic politics which mean next to nothing personally for them or those they've left behind; and 3) Legal Hispanic voters are themselves trending towards conservative politics in recent elections.

The fear mongering of the GOP has even caused Hispanics to turn on their own struggling people and reject humane immigration reform proposals over the nonsensical claims now believed as gospel by right wing brainwashed lemmings.

#44 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-21 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#44. There is nothing humane about the human, sex and drug trafficking that goes hand in hand with the mass illegal immigration that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables. Throw in the stress to the system such a mass influx of illegal aliens creates and the slap in the face it is to everyone who came and settled here legally.

It's far more cruel than the hard line approach Trump took.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 11:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

There is nothing humane about the human, sex and drug trafficking that goes hand in hand with the mass illegal immigration that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables.

This is why your opinion is worth less than warm spit. No party endorses, encourages, nor enables illegal trafficking as a matter of their stated policies. Only those who profit from such endeavors do and their personal politics is irrelevant in relation to their inhumane deviancy. To accuse innocent people so recklessly is disgusting and shows your own ignorance and depravity.

Your mind is diseased. Seek mental help immediately.

#46 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-06-21 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#46. The Democratic Party endorses, encourages and promotes mass illegal immigration. Full stop. While they don't endorse human, sex and drug trafficking those horrible things are baked into illegal immigration.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" To accuse innocent people so recklessly is disgusting and shows your own ignorance and depravity"

Spare us all your faux outrage. Every day on this site conservatives are broad brushed in the worst possible ways. Tens of millions of Americans are cast as evil human monsters on a daily basis on this site and not only do you never challenge any of it you are sometimes guilty of it but, to your credit, generally show more constraint than others on this site.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:15 PM | Reply

44. There is nothing humane about the human, sex and drug trafficking that goes hand in hand with the mass illegal immigration that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables. Throw in the stress to the system such a mass influx of illegal aliens creates and the slap in the face it is to everyone who came and settled here legally.
It's far more cruel than the hard line approach Trump took.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-06-21 11:35 AM | REPLY

GFY You useless POS.

#49 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-06-21 12:17 PM | Reply

"Every day on this site conservatives are broad brushed in the worst possible ways."
~Bellringer

"mass illegal immigration that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables."
~Bellringer

Got hypocrisy?

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:24 PM | Reply

#50. Nothing hypocritical about those two statements.

Nice try though.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:28 PM | Reply

When it comes to illegal immigration I can cite Dem comments, rhetoric and specific actions taken and then cite numbers in a cause/effect manner that absolutely support my claim.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:31 PM | Reply

"Nothing hypocritical about those two statements. "

Okay; got double standards?

Or is this another case where you don't believe you're in a serious discussion, so it's okay for you to lie?

Because you're either a massive hypocrite, or a lying SOS with double-standards out the yang.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:32 PM | Reply

Contrast that with accusing tens of millions of Americans as human monsters ...

Be better, Danforth.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:33 PM | Reply

Danforth,

You are wading into Snoofy/Jakester territory. It's ugly and I know you are better than that.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 12:34 PM | Reply

"When it comes to illegal immigration I can cite Dem comments"

Feel free to show the official Dem platform; cherry-picking from one or two idiots is stupidly partisan.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:35 PM | Reply

"Contrast that with accusing tens of millions of Americans as human monsters "

EXACTLY what you accused Dems of being. So no real contrast at all...which proves my point.

Thanks for admitting your hypocrisy.

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:36 PM | Reply

"I know you are better than that."

Says the guy who doesn't want anyone to broadbrush Republicans while he broadbrushes Democrats.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:37 PM | Reply

Have you clowns figured out how we can lock Trump up over this yet?

#59 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-06-21 01:11 PM | Reply

Danforth,

Just take the L on this. When it comes to illegal immigration I'm criticizing policy, rhetoric and the clearly measurable results.

In the process I'm not calling Democrats sociopathic Nazi's.

Surely you are smart enough to understand the difference.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 02:57 PM | Reply

"When it comes to illegal immigration I'm criticizing policy, rhetoric and the clearly measurable results."

^
I don't believe you.
Let's see these measurements.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-21 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Surely you are smart enough to understand the difference."

Surely you are smart enough to understand the similarities.

I get it; you're embarrassed by your own words. But that's your loss, not mine. If you don't want to be accused of being a hypocrite, stop being a hypocrite.

#62 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 03:03 PM | Reply

#62. You are embarrassing yourself either wittingly or unwittingly. Please stop. It's unbecoming.

You are smart enough to know the difference between criticizing policy and resulting outcomes vs broadbrushing tens of millions of people as homicidal fascists

#63 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 03:07 PM | Reply

Either that or you are trolling.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 03:08 PM | Reply

"You are embarrassing yourself either wittingly or unwittingly. Please stop. It's unbecoming."

My irony meter just exploded.

Tell us again how you don't like folks to broadbrush Republicans while you regularly broadbrush Democrats.

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 03:29 PM | Reply

"You are smart enough to know the difference between criticizing policy"

Except you'ren not just criticizing policy.

"...the mass illegal immigration that the Democratic Party wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables."

That's a broadbrush lie. About tens of millions of people.

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#66. The "Democratic Party" refers to our elected officials and my characterization is accurate. In a couple of border districts at the state level elected Democrats denounce this. At the federal level they either perfectly or closely fit my characterization or are silent about this.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 03:45 PM | Reply

#65. I hope you are ok. You are a walking example of human irony and if your meter exploded ... .

#68 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 03:46 PM | Reply

" The "Democratic Party" refers to our elected officials and my characterization is accurate"

It's a broadbrush, exactly what you were whining about.

But using your barometer, the statements about Republicans were accurate.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 03:57 PM | Reply

"#66. The "Democratic Party" refers to our elected officials and my characterization is accurate"

Got any examples where the party "wholeheartedly endorsed, encourages and enables" illegal immigrantion?

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-21 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#69

It's proven via rhetoric, policy, actions and the predictable results.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-06-21 04:16 PM | Reply

" It's proven via rhetoric, policy, actions and the predictable results."

The statements about Republicans? I agree. Maybe that part wasn't broadbrushing.

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 04:44 PM | Reply

Why is this news? Gravity doesn't take a break. If you want to climb a 30 foot wall, you risk getting hurt. Duh.

#73 | Posted by jakester at 2022-06-21 04:49 PM | Reply

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