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Monday, June 20, 2022

Donald Trump will be implicated in a plan to submit fake electors to overturn the 2020 presidential election, Representative Adam Schiff said on Sunday.

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:The House select committee investigating last year's January 6 Capitol riot, when Trump supporters tried to stop Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's victory, have sought to prove Trump's involvement in plans to overturn the election results in public hearings, the fourth of which is set to be held Tuesday.

One of these plans involved having Republicans from battleground states narrowly won by Biden"including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin"send an "alternate" slate of electors to Washington, D.C. to cast their vote for Trump, even as a majority of their state voted for Biden.

Schiff, a California Democrat serving on the committee, said the panel plans to present evidence that Trump was also involved in the scheme."

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-19 10:57 PM | Reply

Much has been said about proving that DJT corruptly intended to break the law; that he truly believed that he had won. If, given all of the evidence that Trump was told by people in the know that he loss, the DOJ still feels as if can indict Trump because it can't prove intent, then the DOJ should NEVER indict another person EVER if the indictment hinges on intent.

#2 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-06-20 11:57 AM | Reply

Wait a minute. If all of these MAGAts actually believed that Mike Pence had the power to turn back electors and put this matter back to the states, or otherwise 'pick' who the next president should be, then why isn't anyone from the Right expressing concern about Kamala Harris doing the same in January, 2025 and ensuring a second term for Diamond Joe? Asking for a friend...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2022-06-20 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

John Eastman, the lawyer who wrote the memo outlining how Pence could refuse to certify the count of electoral votes, was asked if it would have been OK if Al Gore had declared himself the winner in 2001 or will Kamala Harris have the ability to do so in 2025, and Eastman said NO, that they were NOT capable of doing so, but in the case of Pence, that was a different situation and he would be able to.

OCU

#4 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-06-20 03:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

John Eastman is quite the spinner. But then it didn't take much to start spinning Trump's head in circles.

It's a pattern. If anyone recalls, Trump ignored U.S. Intelligence in favor of Russia's Intelligence ~ probably because, in his meeting in Helsinki with Mr. Putin, it was what he was ordered to do.

And this is the guy who called Mike Pence a "wimp."

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-06-21 08:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eastman, Ginni Thomas, tRump, Roody Tooty, etc are all part of the plot.

John Eastman, the lawyer who wrote the memo outlining how Pence could refuse to certify the count of electoral votes, was asked if it would have been OK if Al Gore had declared himself the winner in 2001 or will Kamala Harris have the ability to do so in 2025, and Eastman said NO, that they were NOT capable of doing so, but in the case of Pence, that was a different situation and he would be able to.

That is the mental gymnastics that so many of the tRumpturds go through on the daily basis from private personal email accounts to dealing with Russia and China by the tRump crime family. It's different when tRump does it because he is the magat king.

#6 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-21 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

NIXON

The "tRumpturds' that orbited Trump can wait for their day in court. Right now their value is the evidence they can provide.

(Eastman and Giuliani excepted)

The others can wait until later to negotiate their "cooperating witness" deal with the prosecution.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-06-21 11:46 AM | Reply

"a plan to submit fake electors"

Trump smiles every time his opponents mirror his language and behavior. We're talking about disputed electors appointed by the legislature, the exact same scenario that was on the table in the 2000 election. And...

As I recall, Trump was openly on the record as supporting this idea. What's missing is the connection between supporting a crappy political maneuver and either supporting or showing depraved indifference to the violence on 1/6. The former doesn't imply the latter.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-06-21 12:14 PM | Reply

"We're talking about disputed electors appointed by the legislature"

Using virtually the same wording in each case. Where did THAT come from, pray tell?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:26 PM | Reply

"What's missing is the connection"

Then be sure to watch the hearings.

#10 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 12:26 PM | Reply

It's a pattern. If anyone recalls, Trump ignored U.S. Intelligence in favor of Russia's Intelligence ~ probably because, in his meeting in Helsinki with Mr. Putin, it was what he was ordered to do.

I am sure that the orders from Putin began long long before the meeting in Helsinki.

My guess is that reek was ordered to run for POTUS by Putin in 2015 as payback for Putin bailing him out when banks wouldn't finance his corrupt over leveraged business anymore. Putin knew what meaningless blather polled well with dummies in the GQP...calling Mexicans rapist, the lies about healthcare, the wall, forcing business to move back to the US, making coal great again...all simplistic blue collar dreams and the dumbest of the dumb bought into the lies hook, line and sinker.

Giving a massive tax cut, a program of cheap health insurance with no copays or deductibles that covers everything, while giving huge increases to war machine while simultaneously paying off the debt and forcing companies to bring good jobs back to the US was nothing but lies (except for the massive tax cut for millionaires) that he had no intention of accomplishing. Yet the children that voted for him believed he was their Santa Claus. They are detached from reality. That is why they still love the corrupt bloated treasonous criminal so much.

The big lie that lead to the insurrection as now morphed into the big fleece where the Mango ------- has stolen $250,000,000 from the dumbest of the dumb under the premise of fighting the steal and NONE of it has been spent on "the steal" and instead has be siphoned off by him and his corrupt family.

Now he is charging an entrance fee for his "rallies". Just liberating the money out of the wallets of these morons.

He doesn't have to be a really smart con artist if his marks are stupid enough.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-22 10:33 AM | Reply

We're talking about disputed electors appointed by the legislature

2000 was about counting the votes in Florida before the certification. Once the SCOTUS stole the election for Bush, Gore committed to a peaceful transition and followed through.

This time the votes were counted, recounted and certified by AZ, PA and GA. The electors were selected based on the results of the votes. Then Roody Colludy, Eastman, Ellis and Dotard set about to get them to throw out those electors for ones that would vote for Dotard in clear violation of the laws of the states and the will of the voters.

When the secretaries of state asked for proof, they were given conspiracy theories and zero proof because they had none. Dotard claimed 50,000 dead people voted in GA... it turned out to be 4. The secretaries of state were then singled out by Dotard and became targets of the angry mob of mouth breathers. Poll workers were harrassed and threatened with death at the direction of Dotard.

Then they set about trying to get Pence to violate the Constitution. Instead of going to the FBI with their demands, he instead sought out legal experts to find any legal way he could do their bidding. Only when he exhausted any and all avenues to do it he resigned himself to doing what he was required to do. He's no hero anymore than me not stopping and robbing the eleven banks I pass on my way home every night.

Eastman told Pence he had the power to throw out the electors and accept the alternate and illegal electors. When Eastman was pressed on whether his plan meant that Gore could've declared himself the winner in 2000 and Harris could throw out the electors in 2024 and declare herself the winner Eastman said no, but in this case it was different but wouldn't say why.

So Dotard sent his mouthbreathers to kill Pence and disrupt the counting in the vain hopes of throwing out the electors and sending it to the House where they would vote, one vote per state who won the electoral count with Republicans holding the majority in the number of states.

Why else would Grassley speculate that he was going to oversee the vote couting on 1/5?

"During an exchange with reporters on Tuesday, Grassley was asked how he plans to vote.

"Well, first of all, I will be " if the Vice President isn't there and we don't expect him to be there, I will be presiding over the Senate," according to a transcript of his remarks sent by a spokesperson.

Grassley serves as the president pro tempore of the Senate and will preside over any portion of the debate that Pence does not attend. But Grassley expects Pence to be present on Wednesday, according to his spokesperson."

This bag of rats in the GOP is up to their eyeballs in this coup attempt.

#12 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-22 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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