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Tuesday, June 21, 2022

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any.

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"My recollection, he said, We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday's hearing.

"And I don't know if that was a gaffe or maybe he didn't think through what he said, but both myself and others in my group ... both remember that specifically, and afterwards we kind of laughed about it," Bowers added."

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Conspiracy theory-based Trumpers don' need no damn evidence; all they need is Trump's word.

Which has never been worth a damn thing.

Sad to see so many dupes and or traitors still believing that the truth doesn't matter, the outcome in their favor is what matters.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-06-21 04:03 PM | Reply

"We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence"

aka, The BillJohnson defense.

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 04:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 5

#2 - it's a good defense. The scientific method relies on evidence to prove something. Only an idiot makes false declarations with no evidence. Some even whine if you don't accept their baseless theories.

#3 | Posted by jakester at 2022-06-21 05:40 PM | Reply

"it's a good defense."

Not when you had no evidence to begin. Usually the theory begins with evidence, not wishful fantasy.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 05:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Plus, if Rudy knew he was lying, and other folks pointed out the truth, and instead of admitting the truth, he lied some more and blamed the folks who found him out...

...why that'd be on Rudy, wouldn't it?

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 06:00 PM | Reply

Jakester....where'd you go?

If Rudy was a lying SOS, and others found him out and exposed him, but instead of telling the truth, he doubled down, and blamed those who found him out...

...that would be on Rudy as a lying SOS. Do you agree?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-06-21 06:19 PM | Reply

"The scientific method relies on evidence to prove something. Only an idiot makes false declarations with no evidence."

Fat Donnie Fail and Rudy Colludy are idiots, then. Agreed.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-06-21 07:40 PM | Reply

Trump's done.....today was the worst IMO because you saw the plan beyond simply the riot. He wanted the results changed based on ZERO evidence.

As I have said in numerous posts before, this was all a FAIRYTALE.

At worst, he's going to be indicted. At best......he's going to turn into a T-Shirt or a movie of the week.

And oh by the way, how does Rudy still have a radio show in WABC? He should be fired.

#8 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-06-21 08:53 PM | Reply

@#8 .... Trump's done ...

I am not yet convinced of that.

There are too many people who hear only that which agrees with what they believe.

There seems to be a relatively solid 30% to 40% of the voters who seem to believe whatever fmr Pres Trump sends their way. For now, I'll called them "Trumpers."

In many GOP-leaning states, those Trumpers control the voting now, due do the results of local elections.

So, gone are the Republicans who observe the Constitution and rule of law, and now we have Republicans who are willing to, let's say, bend the law to assure their political opinions come out ahead in voting.

drudge.com

...Forty years ago next month, President Ronald Reagan reminded us that while the "orderly transfer of authority" is a "commonplace occurrence" for Americans, "[i]n the eyes of many in the world, this every-4-year ceremony we accept as normal is nothing less than a miracle." Now, Americans are being reminded once again never to take for granted what President Reagan correctly described as "the continuity which is the bulwark of our Republic." ... ...

Yeah, that's now a distant memory. Thank-you fmr Pres Trump.


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-21 09:16 PM | Reply

Trump's done.....today was the worst IMO because you saw the plan beyond simply the riot.

#8 | Posted by brass30

WHO saw the plan? Not the people who need to see it. THey're watching fox and just hearing about how gas prices are biden's fault.

They watched trump attempt a coup on live tv and they're fine with it. Adding evidence of bad intention wont even make them blink. They LIKE his bad intentions. They AGREE that democracy is worth overthrowing if they dont win.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-21 09:32 PM | Reply

WHO saw the plan? Not the people who need to see it. THey're watching fox and just hearing about how gas prices are biden's fault.

Well today, Martha MacCallum basically said the election claims by Trump took a huge hit and are false. Those viewers can either like it or hate it, but today was compelling.

I think even Jonathan Turley, who never passes up a chance to help Trump, called the testimony "powerful".

He's going to be indicted.

#11 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-06-21 09:37 PM | Reply

@#11 ... Well today, Martha MacCallum basically said the election claims by Trump took a huge hit and are false. Those viewers can either like it or hate it, but today was compelling. ...

You're living in a dream world....

Cheney is 28% behind opponent Harriet Hageman: 70% of Wyoming Republican voters view Liz unfavorably (June 7, 2022)
www.msn.com

Do you think the GOP is going to change their opinions anytime soon?


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-21 09:46 PM | Reply

THey're watching fox and just hearing about how gas prices are biden's fault.

So what? This is a legal proceeding, not a campaign debate.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-06-21 09:50 PM | Reply

@#13 ... This is a legal proceeding, not a campaign debate. ...

But the only way the GOP can diminish what is being surfaced in the Jan 6 Committee proceeding is to try to turn them into a campaign debate.

As has been acknowledged time and time again here, campaign debates do not need facts. They need emotion and unswerving agreement.

Unswerving agreeing is all the current GOP has to hope for.

And, imo, they've got it.

drudge.com

...Forty years ago next month, President Ronald Reagan reminded us that while the "orderly transfer of authority" is a "commonplace occurrence" for Americans, "[i]n the eyes of many in the world, this every-4-year ceremony we accept as normal is nothing less than a miracle." Now, Americans are being reminded once again never to take for granted what President Reagan correctly described as "the continuity which is the bulwark of our Republic." ... ...


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-21 11:05 PM | Reply

But the only way the GOP can diminish what is being surfaced in the Jan 6 Committee proceeding is to try to turn them into a campaign debate.

Sounds like a good test for the DOJ.

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-06-21 11:09 PM | Reply

Only an idiot makes false declarations with no evidence.

#3 | POSTED BY JAKESTER

Like most of your posts?

#16 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-06-22 01:20 AM | Reply

"Like most of your posts?"

Only if you can provide posts to support this.

Can you?

I'll wait.

#17 | Posted by jakester at 2022-06-22 01:23 AM | Reply

Trump has to die or go to prison before his supporters abandon him. They've built their personalities around him. It's only when he is out of the picture that they can abandon him without admitting to themselves they are wrong and their judgment can't be trusted. Once he's gone they can move on to some other to worshipping some other conman but as long as he is walking amongst the free then they are bonded to him.

#18 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-06-22 01:28 AM | Reply

JOHNNY HOTSAUCE

"Once he's [Trump]gone they can move on to some other to worshipping some other conman"

There's always DeSantis who is pawing the ground in anticipation.

If you look behind the curtain, it's the GOP itself who is behind this plot to destroy democracy. People like Trump and DeSantis are just the bulls with the horns doing the grunt work.

#19 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-06-22 01:46 AM | Reply

@#18 ... Trump has to die or go to prison before his supporters abandon him. ...

I disagree.

His current supporters will never abandon him.

It is a cult/religious thing.

Have you ever tried to have a rational discussion with a born-again Christian about anything?

OK, now put that discussion into the political arena.

When you talk with those who support fmr Pres Trump, you are dealing with a cult. You have to tell them what they want, even yearn, to hear.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-22 01:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It is a cult/religious thing.

The only difference between tRump and Jim Jones is that tRump would charge his disciples for the kool aid first.

#21 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-22 08:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're living in a dream world....(concerning Trump's future)

Time will tell.

I am just saying if he runs - if he can run because I think he's going to be indicted - a whole lot of independents and some Repubs will not vote for him due to this. And bottom line - he's the weakest candidate and best chance for Dems to hold the Presidency. His act is old and tired and he'll look weak to be quite honest pushing election fraud in campaign. It's a battle he can't win, and he won't give it up.

So if the GOP want to go that route, more power to them. I've said any Republican that wants Trump over DeSantis should have their head examined (yeah, I know..that's a lot of people LOL)

#22 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-06-22 09:38 AM | Reply

He's going to be indicted.

#11 | Posted by brass30

That'll have as much consequence as his impeachments. ZERO.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-22 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you talk with those who support fmr Pres Trump, you are dealing with a cult

For those Trump supporters I know, that statement is spot on. They are diehard Trumpers. They won't even talk about DeSantis or any other alternate GOP presidential candidate. Trump all the way.

Even if he gets indicted - which may happen - or convicted - which I don't believe would happen - his status will just just increase with them. Because he appeals to their baser selves - afraid of their world changing, dissatisfied or disappointed with their lot in life, buying into Trump's xenophobia as the reason for their fears and disappointments, thinking they will better their own lots in life by diminishing others, and shouting or beating down any who disagree.

My opinion, it won't be over until Trump dies. Maybe not even then.

#24 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-06-22 01:10 PM | Reply

That'll have as much consequence as his impeachments. ZERO.

Take a look at recent polling. He's losing to DeSantis in NH.

Also, the leader of Women for Trump just said he's "disconnected".

I think Trump is going to fall out of favor for various reasons - and the big one is - GOP knows they probably won't win with him.

But he's getting indicted and it will be HUGE. Gilliam in FL just was indicted, so take note Trumpers.

#25 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-06-22 01:48 PM | Reply

We've got lots of ------- but no proof.

- Rooty Tooty Colludy

#26 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-23 10:13 AM | Reply

In other words, all they had was conspiracy theories cooked up by the sickest minds in the bowels of the Fascist/Reichwing corners of the internet. But Rudy couldn't be expected to fact-check the effluent he was spewing, how would he ever make a case for the coup?

#27 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2022-06-23 06:12 PM | Reply

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