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Tuesday, June 21, 2022

Donald J. Trump was personally involved in a scheme to put forward fake electors, the House committee revealed at a hearing that highlighted the pressure that state officials faced to overturn the election results.



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Bowers was good today. I dare anyone to say he's a RINO. He voted for Trump in 2020. But when Trump and his team wanted him to pretend the election was rigged, Bowers said no. And when Trump claimed today - today! - that Bowers had agreed that the election was rigged, Bowers said that is not true.

#1 | Posted by cbob at 2022-06-21 06:35 PM | Reply

And BOAZ wept.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2022-06-21 06:50 PM | Reply

For anyone complaining about the NYT paywall, here's the key passage:

Rusty Bowers, the Republican speaker of Arizona's House of Representatives, recounted how he resisted intensive pressure by Mr. Trump and his lieutenants to overturn his loss in the state.

"I didn't want to be used as a pawn," Mr. Bowers testified, explaining why he had refused to call a hearing to examine the possibility of removing electors for Mr. Biden and replacing them with electors for Mr. Trump. He told the panel that he had refused two entreaties from Mr. Trump and several more from his legal advisers, who said repeatedly that they had evidence of fraud sufficient to reverse the election outcome, but never produced any.

"You are asking me to do something against my oath, and I will not break my oath," Mr. Bowers said.

#3 | Posted by cbob at 2022-06-21 06:51 PM | Reply

@#1 ... Bowers was good today. I dare anyone to say he's a RINO. He voted for Trump in 2020.

A press release of his from December 2020...

Speaker Bowers Addresses Calls for the Legislature to Overturn 2020 Certified Election Results (PDF) (December 4, 2020)

...This week, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, and others representing President Donald Trump came to Arizona with a breathtaking request: that the Arizona Legislature overturn the certified results of last month's election and deliver the state's electoral college votes to President Trump. The rule of law forbids us to do that.

Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Ellis made their case here at least twice"on Monday, at an unofficial public gathering hosted by a small group of legislators; and again on Tuesday, during a closed-door meeting at the State Capitol with Republican leaders from both chambers of the Legislature. Both times, the Trump team made claims that the election was tainted by fraud but presented only theories, not proof. U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr said on Tuesday that he, too, has "not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome of the election." Even if such evidence existed, the Arizona Legislature simply couldn't do what is being asked. Under our state's constitution, the Legislature can act only when it is in session, and the Legislature could call itself into a special session only with the support of a bipartisan supermajority of its members.

That won't materialize, but even if did, the Legislature couldn't provide the recourse the President's team seeks. The U.S. Constitution authorizes each state to appoint presidential electors "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct." For decades, Arizona law has required that the voters elect the state's electors on Election Day"this year, on November 3rd. And under a law the Republican-led Legislature passed just three years ago, the state's electors are required to cast their votes for the candidates who received the most votes in the official statewide election canvass. Enacted after the 2016 presidential election, in which President Trump won the electoral college but not the popular vote, the law was aimed at ensuring that Arizona's electors would remain faithful to the vote of the people.

So under current Arizona law, the presidential electors who were elected on November 3 must, after the canvass is completed, vote for the winners of the popular vote. Nothing in the U.S. Constitution or the decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court even suggests that the Arizona Legislature could retroactively ...

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-21 07:19 PM | Reply


The press release ends with this...

...No election is perfect, and if there were evidence of illegal votes or an improper count, then Arizona law provides a process to contest the election: a lawsuit under state law. But the law does not authorize the Legislature to reverse the results of an election.

As a conservative Republican, I don't like the results of the presidential election. I voted for President Trump and worked hard to reelect him. But I cannot and will not entertain a suggestion that we violate current law to change the outcome of a certified election. I and my fellow legislators swore an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and the constitution and laws of the state of Arizona. It would violate that oath, the basic principles of republican government, and the rule of law if we attempted to nullify the people's vote based on unsupported theories of fraud. Under the laws that we wrote and voted upon, Arizona voters choose who wins, and our system requires that their choice be respected.

Forty years ago next month, President Ronald Reagan reminded us that while the "orderly transfer of authority" is a "commonplace occurrence" for Americans, "[i]n the eyes of many in the world, this every-4-year ceremony we accept as normal is nothing less than a miracle." Now, Americans are being reminded once again never to take for granted what President Reagan correctly described as "the continuity which is the bulwark of our Republic." ...

[emphasis mine]

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-21 07:21 PM | Reply

You know they're digging deep when they start channeling Reagan.

Reagan would be a RINO these days.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-21 07:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

For sure.

Reagan believed in reasonable gun control and not allowing hunters to use AK-47s.
Reagan expanded abortion access in 1967 because of rape and ------. Not today's republican party. They want abortion gone period.
Reagan wanted to BEAT communism to death. The republican party now sucks up to Putin and Trump was a Manchurian candidate.
Reagan didn't believe in stupid walls and granted 3 million immigrants amnesty.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-06-21 11:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reagan would be a RINO these days.


They'd call Reagan a leftist statist these days for his willingness to compromise, his expansion of the federal government and his wild deficit spending. On top of that there was his backing of gun control and international arms control, his push for international human rights. He expanded entitlement programs, implemented the earned income tax credit to help the poor and repeatedly raised taxes including the largest corporate tax hike in US history,

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-06-22 01:56 AM | Reply

Trump can't be compared to any former Republican President. Nor can the current edition of the GOP . . . which has methodized into a political conglomeration that more closely resembles an organized crime family of the 20's and 30's.

Prohibition is still their calling card. This time their target is democracy.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-06-22 02:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

""You are asking me to do something against my oath, and I will not break my oath," Mr. Bowers said.

#3 | Posted by cbob at 2022-06-21 06:51 PM | Reply"

A Republican with backbone and principles..... look's an endangered species...almost extinct.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-22 07:41 AM | Reply

"Both times, the Trump team made claims that the election was tainted by fraud but presented only theories, not proof."

Because Fat Nixon is a compulsive liar. Everyone around him is corrupted by him. He is the single worst president in history. I cannot imagine anyone worse.

#11 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-06-22 07:45 AM | Reply

Ever seen a right-wing politician try to swim choppy waters while wearing the cute red, white and blue uniform of the MAGAts, and also while wearing a millstone in the form of a fat, orange insurrectionist? You are about to start seeing that, from coast to coast...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2022-06-22 01:07 PM | Reply

Another victory lap around the wading pool.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-06-22 06:00 PM | Reply

Another victory lap around the wading pool.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Another useless comment because you have no other defense of your cult's attempt to end democracy.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-06-22 06:03 PM | Reply

"Another victory lap around the wading pool."

We made 45 laps around the pool before Deplorables tried to drain it.

Weird how you just don't care if they drain your pool.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-22 06:05 PM | Reply

Another victory lap around the wading pool.


Another trite comment from a ----------- 1/6 supporter.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2022-06-22 06:25 PM | Reply

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